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Okajima pedigree
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entalmighty1

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7 minutes ago, szav said:

Two other things that added to this copy in my opinion were, even though its unrecognized on the label, its a Maurice Whitman cover, and it apparently has an exceptional color strike for the issue.  I say apparently because I don't trust HAs images anymore.  Still unless they turned oranges all the way red, you don't usually see 59 with such nice reds.

That all said, late run Rangers Firehair covers are kind of my thing, and even I tapped out at $550 think it was just too steep.  I cant help but feel this was the work of two (or more?) deep pocketed people trying to reassemble the Okajima collection.

Now this would be a helluva mission.  I don't say anything is impossible, but this is close.

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11 minutes ago, szav said:

Two other things that added to this copy in my opinion were, even though its unrecognized on the label, its a Maurice Whitman cover, and it apparently has an exceptional color strike for the issue.  I say apparently because I don't trust HAs images anymore.  Still unless they turned oranges all the way red, you don't usually see 59 with such nice reds.

That all said, late run Rangers Firehair covers are kind of my thing, and even I tapped out at $550 think it was just too steep.  I cant help but feel this was the work of two (or more?) deep pocketed people trying to reassemble the Okajima collection.

...my $1000 figure was stretching honestly, out of respect for the bidders above that.  I agree with your $550 number or thereabouts.  I tapped below that.  Figured it'd take $600-1000+ to win it, and decided not to.  It's ironic though,  I think it's safe to say we really like the book, just at what price.  The intro to Firehair, great cover, Rangers 21, highest graded 9.2 went for over $6k a couple months back, might have even been $7k.  No pedigree.  I absolutely loved the book, couldn't stretch near that far on it.   Not only did it go that high, but was sold for more shortly thereafter.  I think the Camp copies are uber special, due to the rarity and significance, but this isn't a camp copy.  The 59 last night feels like a confluence of a lot of things, like you said, it just takes 2. 

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On 6/24/2019 at 1:17 AM, szav said:

Was kinda wondering what was going on with all the hype and high prices for the camp coded books lately, and had been meaning to post in this thread asking.  Then this goes for $1,800, not even a camp era book.  Granted it seems to be a tough issue to find and this is the current highest graded (though probably not a safe one at 8.5).

How much of this price was that its Rangers 59 and how much was that its the pedigree?

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/adventure/rangers-comics-59-okajima-pedigree-fiction-house-1951-cgc-vf-85-off-white-to-white-pages-only-the-second-copy/a/121925-17764.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-MyBids-101116

Zoinks!  I think this is something new that may or may not prove out as an unique one off. 

Non-sig, post camp Okajima's seemed to be pretty consistent 3-6x guide as far I've observed.

Are all Pedigrees in general heating up?  Perhaps Firehair is breaking out?

 

 

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On 6/25/2019 at 7:52 AM, path4play said:

Zoinks!  I think this is something new that may or may not prove out as an unique one off. 

Non-sig, post camp Okajima's seemed to be pretty consistent 3-6x guide as far I've observed.

Are all Pedigrees in general heating up?  Perhaps Firehair is breaking out?

 

 

Does seem really high. I think you're right that non-camp, non-sig Okajima's don't usually command such a premium.

Maybe just a case of two determined bidders duking it out. 

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3 hours ago, Sqeggs said:

Does seem really high. I think you're right that non-camp, non-sig Okajima's don't usually command such a premium.

Maybe just a case of two determined bidders duking it out. 

Seemed high to me, too. This coming from a guy who is a pretty determined Okajima collector! 

I think I got into the pedigree about two years ago. Here are the camp books in my collection:

 

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10 hours ago, Straw-Man said:

nice group!   i bought the boy comics from worldwide many moons ago when i first started the ped type-set.  it was raw back then.

You sold too soon!

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2 hours ago, lou_fine said:

This new apparent all-black label here:

 

from my point of view, actually looks kind of like the Conserved blue/grey labels here:

 

 

To be clear, I think you meant "this new Universal Pedigree all-black label" looks like the Conserved blue/grey labels.  But yes, agree probably depending on scanner settings etc., going to have to check those labels.

 

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1 hour ago, Sqeggs said:
15 hours ago, path4play said:

Fancy new holder and everything!

That doubles the price right there! :)

You must mean double the number of opportunities for CGC to reach deep into your pocket as you send all of your pedigree books back in to be reholder all over again, for a cost of course.  :devil:

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12 hours ago, telerites said:

So far three Okajimas in the upcoming CL Summer auction.  One is a camp-coded Startling #24.   Kind of tough book to find regardless of the ped.  Lower grade at 2.5 but early guesses on hammer?

 

Okay.  Mmmm, let's see:

1. The earliest known "signed" Okajima copy.

2. Wild WWII cover

3. Board members now on high alert to auction.:whistle:

I'm going to say $3,300

 

 

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1 minute ago, telerites said:

I tried looking through the upcoming CC auction but found that Metro/CC does not have Okajima in their of searchable peds - seems like they have everything else.  I sent them an email asking about it.

I already asked lol:

"The pedigree doesn’t show up if there are no items available.  Currently we have no Okajima pedigreed books on the site.  Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns and I’ll be happy to help."

 

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12 minutes ago, path4play said:

I already asked lol:

"The pedigree doesn’t show up if there are no items available.  Currently we have no Okajima pedigreed books on the site.  Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns and I’ll be happy to help."

 

Interesting.  You'd think they would have set list and if no books then the search results would say that.  But I guess their way is okay, especially if I would have known then I need not go through the extra steps.  I looked again and Chicago is not on the list so now I know they have no Okajimas or Chicagos and whatever else currently.

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