MR SigS Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Unless he used fake bullets and she took the same thing Fury did to make himself appear to be dead. But... When they cut back to her lying dead on the floor, there was a pool of blood. You know how in the movies they use FAKE blood;) If she knew about it before and it was a set up. +1 To me, the moment Ward insisted he go along to "lock the cell", it felt like things were being staged. Hand deciding to pass judgement in transit seemed out of place when she seems so "by the book" every other moment. I think Ward is undercover. I'm just guessing that, as unlikely as it is, Paxton didn't verify their "deaths". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 So why in a thread called SPOILER-FILLED thread about Agents Of SHIELD does everyone feel the need to put things in spoiler tags? Double Spoiler Security for those that read the thread when they really don't want to? It's like when your PC asks you twice if you want to delete something, giving one last chance to turn back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 They could have been LMDs. We haven't seen any yet in the MU that I recall, but they have been referenced several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psithyrus Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 They could have been LMDs. We haven't seen any yet in the MU that I recall, but they have been referenced several times. That's what I was thinking, too. I'm completely turned around on the Ward thing. I really think it's a mistake to have a romance between he and Skye, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psithyrus Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 So why in a thread called SPOILER-FILLED thread about Agents Of SHIELD does everyone feel the need to put things in spoiler tags? Well, to be fair, the first one had a spoiler from some other source in it. If I had something that was beyond the show itself (which is what the spoiler-filled thread is about), then I'd be inclined to put it in spoiler tags. It's tough when movies tie in. I saw some speculation on Skye. . . could she be an Inhuman? They have Kree bloodlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 I still say, as the author/OP here, that spoiler tags are not needed here. The title of the thread is "Spoiler Filled thread about Agents Of SHIELD"... not saying I can stop anyone from using the tags, only saying they aren't necessary. -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I still say, as the author/OP here, that spoiler tags are not needed here. The title of the thread is "Spoiler Filled thread about Agents Of SHIELD"... not saying I can stop anyone from using the tags, only saying they aren't necessary. -slym +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkurJ Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Trust No One... I love how they tied this into Captain America Winter Soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just watched it again. Ward turned around and gave Coulson a "look" as he was leaving and he definitely looked like he was taken over after he did the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Wouldn't Paxton's character know if Ward was Hydra? Or are people suggesting Ward is pretending to switch sides? What about the two guards he shot in the head and the innocent guy in the wheelchair he murdered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I still say, as the author/OP here, that spoiler tags are not needed here. The title of the thread is "Spoiler Filled thread about Agents Of SHIELD"... not saying I can stop anyone from using the tags, only saying they aren't necessary. -slym +1 +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Wouldn't Paxton's character know if Ward was Hydra? Or are people suggesting Ward is pretending to switch sides? What about the two guards he shot in the head and the innocent guy in the wheelchair he murdered? He just looked conflicted, so maybe he's been brainwashed with some super secret suggestion implanted making him shoot people as directed by the Clairvoyant or someone higher. I don't know Marvel well enough, but didn't Jean Gray and Dr X have the ability to mentally force people to do things? Maybe there is someone else with those powers. Or he could just be a terrible actor;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 He is a terrible actor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshuggah Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I find it hard to believe Wards double crossing Hydra unless he's just flying by the seat of his pants. If he was in Hydra the whole time but is still with SHIELD that would mean someone in SHIELD knew about Hydra. Fury stated in Cap 2 that he didn't even know about it. But maybe, when Coulson took Ward aside and you couldn't hear what was said after they saw Garrett in cuffs, they set something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well, the whole premise about no one knowing about Hydra is a little shaky...after all, the recruiting must have been going on for a long time and there must have been SOME people who said no. Those people would have had to be killed or brainwashed so they would not blab... You can't keep a secret with more than 2 people;) It's fun to speculate, but it IS just all made up, I think Ward is under some kind of mind control...perhaps he was still affected by Lorelei, so someone else could mind control him easily. He was forced to shoot the guy in the wheel chair, because he was mentally convinced that person would kill Skye. There is also that fight scene, where he saved Skye by beating up all the Hydra followers. Besides, he's a terrible actor, but he's really cute, so I think they will keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I nearly gave up on this show several times throughout the season, but I think the last three or four episodes have finally made the time investment worthwhile. I find this is now a show I've been looking forward to seeing, instead of something I'm just clearing off of the DVR. Not sure how long they can keep it up, but I'm hopeful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBTOTHEC Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I nearly gave up on this show several times throughout the season, but I think the last three or four episodes have finally made the time investment worthwhile. I find this is now a show I've been looking forward to seeing, instead of something I'm just clearing off of the DVR. Not sure how long they can keep it up, but I'm hopeful! EXACTLY what I thought!! It's been getting much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Can anyone offer any reason (that at least would ring true in the context of the MCU) why anyone in the 21st century would want to belong to an organization like Hydra? I fear we're heading into Austin Powers-like absurdity with this plotline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshuggah Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well, the whole premise about no one knowing about Hydra is a little shaky...after all, the recruiting must have been going on for a long time and there must have been SOME people who said no. Those people would have had to be killed or brainwashed so they would not blab... You can't keep a secret with more than 2 people;) It's fun to speculate, but it IS just all made up, I think Ward is under some kind of mind control...perhaps he was still affected by Lorelei, so someone else could mind control him easily. He was forced to shoot the guy in the wheel chair, because he was mentally convinced that person would kill Skye. There is also that fight scene, where he saved Skye by beating up all the Hydra followers. Besides, he's a terrible actor, but he's really cute, so I think they will keep him. They did mention that Garrett had killed some people that had found out. I also am not sure of Wards motivations behind killing the fake clairvoyant. Maybe it was about Skye or maybe that was just his excuse because he's Hydra. Isn't the point of the boards to discuss made up stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigsUT Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Can anyone offer any reason (that at least would ring true in the context of the MCU) why anyone in the 21st century would want to belong to an organization like Hydra? I fear we're heading into Austin Powers-like absurdity with this plotline. Without going into some political rant, there are probably numerous people in this world who would want to join an organization that wants to tear down the existing "damaged" society, to build up what they would consider a better one. This is not a new concept in the history of man. While fantastical, it is definitely not out of the realm of possibility that something like this could occur, even in the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
