Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15) 1 1

[Bosco685]

'He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody'

 

The tent details is just crazy. So he cut himself off from the rest of the crew so only he saw the dailies?

[thehumantorch]

OH MY!

 

Josh Trank Lawyers Up As Shocking Details About His On Set Behaviour Emerge

 

HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: 'Fantastic Four' Blame Game: Fox, Director Josh Trank Square Off Over On-Set "Chaos"

 

With Fox furious about his now deleted Tweet about the movie, the trade reveals that pit-bull lawyer Marty Singer has been hired to advocate on Trank's behalf.

 

Wow!

 

After sending an email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member with only: "I don’t think so."

 

Ouch!

 

• Trank apparently didn't produce good enough material to ever create a film which could be salvaged, and refused help from the studio and producers. "He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody," one insider tells the site. "He built a black tent around his monitor. He was extremely withdrawn. [He] would go to his trailer and he wouldn’t interact with anybody."
  
• While Fox initially had faith in Trank's vision of a grounded and gritty Fantastic Four movie, it appears as if the filmmaker took that too far as he forced a gloomy tone on the movie by obsessing over the cast's performance. "During takes, he would be telling [cast members] when to blink and when to breathe. He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."
  
• You may remember some time ago that Josh Trank and his dogs were accused of causing as much as $100,000 worth of damage to a house which was rented for him in Baton Rouge by Fox. After landlord Martin Padial made moves to evict the director, "photographs of the landlord’s family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff’s department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed.The sheriff’s department says the case was 'closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant.'"
  
• Before you completely blame Trank for how Fantastic Four turned out, one source says that the movie was always "ill-conceived, made for the wrong reasons and there was no vision behind the property." Fox were terrified of losing the rights to Marvel and the reboot was in chaos before shooting even started. They "were afraid of losing the rights so they pressed forward and didn’t surround [Trank] with help or fire him. They buried their heads in the sand."
  
• While they initially considered firing Trank, Fox had faith in the director and believed he could be the next J.J. Abrams. However, as it became apparent that he couldn't cope with the movie, it was simply to late to ditch him. "How do you ask someone to take over half of a movie shot by someone else? You either hire somebody desperate for work or you [start over], write off pretty much the whole budget and lose the cast." Fair point!
  
• Those reshoots have been blamed for the poor quality of Fantastic Four, but the movie apparently didn't even have an ending when shooting concluded. Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker scrambled to come up with something, but the former's busy schedule and the fact that much of the cast was unavailable led to "a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. 'It was chaos,' says a crew member, adding that Trank was still in attendance 'but was neutralized by a committee.'"
  
• Who was responsible for that terrible ending and second act? Fox reportedly put together a dream team to rescue the move, and that included Drew Goddard. Whatever he and the rest of that team did obviously failed horribly!

 

 

ouch, just ouch.

[EvenInHisYouth]

So, I don't care about the FF...never have. That said...

 

I just streamed it, and thought it was watchable.... 6/10 or so?

 

Way better than those 2 prior FF abortions. Not that the bar was set high previously.

 

[Marvelfangirl]

OH MY!

 

Josh Trank Lawyers Up As Shocking Details About His On Set Behaviour Emerge

 

HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: 'Fantastic Four' Blame Game: Fox, Director Josh Trank Square Off Over On-Set "Chaos"

 

With Fox furious about his now deleted Tweet about the movie, the trade reveals that pit-bull lawyer Marty Singer has been hired to advocate on Trank's behalf.

 

Wow!

 

After sending an email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member with only: "I don’t think so."

 

Ouch!

 

• Trank apparently didn't produce good enough material to ever create a film which could be salvaged, and refused help from the studio and producers. "He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody," one insider tells the site. "He built a black tent around his monitor. He was extremely withdrawn. [He] would go to his trailer and he wouldn’t interact with anybody."
  
• While Fox initially had faith in Trank's vision of a grounded and gritty Fantastic Four movie, it appears as if the filmmaker took that too far as he forced a gloomy tone on the movie by obsessing over the cast's performance. "During takes, he would be telling [cast members] when to blink and when to breathe. He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."
  
• You may remember some time ago that Josh Trank and his dogs were accused of causing as much as $100,000 worth of damage to a house which was rented for him in Baton Rouge by Fox. After landlord Martin Padial made moves to evict the director, "photographs of the landlord’s family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff’s department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed.The sheriff’s department says the case was 'closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant.'"
  
• Before you completely blame Trank for how Fantastic Four turned out, one source says that the movie was always "ill-conceived, made for the wrong reasons and there was no vision behind the property." Fox were terrified of losing the rights to Marvel and the reboot was in chaos before shooting even started. They "were afraid of losing the rights so they pressed forward and didn’t surround [Trank] with help or fire him. They buried their heads in the sand."
  
• While they initially considered firing Trank, Fox had faith in the director and believed he could be the next J.J. Abrams. However, as it became apparent that he couldn't cope with the movie, it was simply to late to ditch him. "How do you ask someone to take over half of a movie shot by someone else? You either hire somebody desperate for work or you [start over], write off pretty much the whole budget and lose the cast." Fair point!
  
• Those reshoots have been blamed for the poor quality of Fantastic Four, but the movie apparently didn't even have an ending when shooting concluded. Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker scrambled to come up with something, but the former's busy schedule and the fact that much of the cast was unavailable led to "a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. 'It was chaos,' says a crew member, adding that Trank was still in attendance 'but was neutralized by a committee.'"
  
• Who was responsible for that terrible ending and second act? Fox reportedly put together a dream team to rescue the move, and that included Drew Goddard. Whatever he and the rest of that team did obviously failed horribly!

 

 

I would rather a documentary about the making of the F4 reboot than watch the real movie

This is stuff you can't make up even if you tried.

[WernerVonDoom]

I doubt this could happen, but here is a possible way to salvage FF:

 

1. Ideally, Marvel/Disney realizes the price for FF will never be lower than today, and offers Fox a deal they can't refuse.

2. Since no one could stomach an FF reboot any time soon, Marvel starts with either a solo Dr. Doom movie or Dr. Strange 2 with Dr. Doom. Victor's mother being damned, growing up in Latveria, college meeting Reed and Ben, becoming Doom, then rescuing his mother with the help of Dr. Strange (just like in the great Doom/Strange graphic novel).

3. FF guest stars in the Infinity Gauntlet movies.

4. Then full on Galactus story in their own movie.

[TheLiamSturgess]

Werner, that sounds awesome. I love the idea of Doom being introduced as a Strange backup character - maybe sort of like Loki, friend with twisted personal motivations that lead to the plot of the Strange/Doom GN (which I own and loved). Make it accurate to the source material.

Edited August 13, 2015 by Liaton-9000

[kdoginohio]

I doubt this could happen, but here is a possible way to salvage FF:

 

1. Ideally, Marvel/Disney realizes the price for FF will never be lower than today, and offers Fox a deal they can't refuse.

2. Since no one could stomach an FF reboot any time soon, Marvel starts with either a solo Dr. Doom movie or Dr. Strange 2 with Dr. Doom. Victor's mother being damned, growing up in Latveria, college meeting Reed and Ben, becoming Doom, then rescuing his mother with the help of Dr. Strange (just like in the great Doom/Strange graphic novel).

3. FF guest stars in the Infinity Gauntlet movies.

4. Then full on Galactus story in their own movie.

1) Too toxic right now for even Disney.

2)Enuff Doom for now. Maybe Psycho Man/Wasp cameo in Ant-Man 2 ?

3)Nope. Too much will be going on at it is.

4) Maybe Galactus cameo at end of Thor 3 ?

[WernerVonDoom]

I doubt this could happen, but here is a possible way to salvage FF:

 

1. Ideally, Marvel/Disney realizes the price for FF will never be lower than today, and offers Fox a deal they can't refuse.

2. Since no one could stomach an FF reboot any time soon, Marvel starts with either a solo Dr. Doom movie or Dr. Strange 2 with Dr. Doom. Victor's mother being damned, growing up in Latveria, college meeting Reed and Ben, becoming Doom, then rescuing his mother with the help of Dr. Strange (just like in the great Doom/Strange graphic novel).

3. FF guest stars in the Infinity Gauntlet movies.

4. Then full on Galactus story in their own movie.

1) Too toxic right now for even Disney.

2)Enuff Doom for now. Maybe Psycho Man/Wasp cameo in Ant-Man 2 ?

3)Nope. Too much will be going on at it is.

4) Maybe Galactus cameo at end of Thor 3 ?

 

1) Nothing better than buying low.

2) Psycho Man/Wasp - Not bad. I still think fans would go crazy for a real Dr. Doom movie even if it came out next month.

3) Yeah. I'd love to see them in it though (along with Doom).

4) Any post-credit scene with Galactus would be epic.

[Amadeus Arkham]

I'm just waiting for Kata Mara's "reshoot wig" to pop up on eBay.

[makeminemego]

IF they could ever get the dynamic between team members in the FF right on screen, I think they could operate within the MCU as kind of "above the fray" scientists. Maybe them on one side of the street and the Avengers on the other. I don't know.

 

But in reality, I don't think Disney's going to approach Fox on this one.

[rjrjr]

There's now a petition on change.org to demand Fox sell the movie rights back to Marvel. I'm not sure if I would sign it though as it requires your real name and address and I'm not keen on giving them that info.

 

the comments on there are hilarious

 

 

 

Adonis Betancourt HIALEAH, FL

 

Fox does not care about the fans of these beloved character. Money is there only interest.

 

 

Tony Soehner GOLDEN, CO

 

Fox is ruining marvel and I'm sick of those capitalist

 

 

Nothing like a bunch of riled up fanboys!

[Bosco685]

'FANTASTIC FOUR' Screenwriter Gives Thoughts And Praise Towards Film

 

[krighton]

sign up for change.org and they will bludgeon you via email with every stupid protest someone has...i was flooded with people wanting to extradite that guy for killing the lion.

 

by now movie goers must think Doom is the only super villain the FF ever fought.

Edited August 13, 2015 by krighton

[Turtle]

 

by now movie goers must think Doom is the only super villain the FF ever fought.

 

Thanks kind of like Shredder with the TMNT. They've got plenty of villains, but Shredder always gets crammed into the mix.

[fantastic_four]

After sending an email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member with only: "I don’t think so."

 

Oh my god...I didn't realize just how insanely deluded the guy was until this comment.

 

 

[fantastic_four]

And I the only one who ISN'T shocked to hear this?

 

one hit wonder. will be interesting to see when/if he ever directs another film. won't be anything w/ any kind of budget when/if he does.

 

It looks like he's done. This is a level of loopy-flaky-crazy I haven't seen anyone come back from.

[Doktor]

IF they could ever get the dynamic between team members in the FF right on screen, I think they could operate within the MCU as kind of "above the fray" scientists. Maybe them on one side of the street and the Avengers on the other. I don't know.

 

But in reality, I don't think Disney's going to approach Fox on this one.

 

I don't think Disney/Marvel care about the actual FF characters. But they DO want the villains/supporting characters that are attached to the FF contract. Doom, Galactus, Anhilus, Kang, Super-Skrull/Skrull Race, Surfer, etc.

[Bosco685]

After sending an email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member with only: "I don’t think so."

 

Oh my god...I didn't realize just how insanely deluded the guy was until this comment.

 

There's a number of sites trying to identify who it was that sent this response. The strong bet is on Miles Teller.

 

 

[fantastic_four]

IF they could ever get the dynamic between team members in the FF right on screen, I think they could operate within the MCU as kind of "above the fray" scientists. Maybe them on one side of the street and the Avengers on the other. I don't know.

 

But in reality, I don't think Disney's going to approach Fox on this one.

 

I don't think Disney/Marvel care about the actual FF characters. But they DO want the villains/supporting characters that are attached to the FF contract. Doom, Galactus, Anhilus, Kang, Super-Skrull/Skrull Race, Surfer, etc.

 

As what, X-Men villains? I don't see what good having the rights to any of those characters does them without a wider array of heroes to pit them against with the exception of Silver Surfer. And even he's only good for at most one solo flick; Surfer is far better as a supporting character than a standalone hero.

[Doktor]

IF they could ever get the dynamic between team members in the FF right on screen, I think they could operate within the MCU as kind of "above the fray" scientists. Maybe them on one side of the street and the Avengers on the other. I don't know.

 

But in reality, I don't think Disney's going to approach Fox on this one.

 

I don't think Disney/Marvel care about the actual FF characters. But they DO want the villains/supporting characters that are attached to the FF contract. Doom, Galactus, Anhilus, Kang, Super-Skrull/Skrull Race, Surfer, etc.

 

As what, X-Men villains? I don't see what good having the rights to any of those characters does them without a wider array of heroes to pit them against with the exception of Silver Surfer. And even he's only good for at most one solo flick; Surfer is far better as a supporting character than a standalone hero.

 

Huh? Where did X-Men come into this equation?

 

I was talking about Marvel/Disney's interest in getting the rights back to the characters in the FF contract by whatever means. All of those that I mentioned would help bolster Marvel's somewhat less-than-stellar remaining stock of villains & more supporting/guest-starring characters. All of the characters that I mentioned are part of the FF contract, so the ending of that contract thru whatever means would mean Marvel/Disney gets them back.

 

Having Kang show up in an Avengers movie down the line or Galactus or even Doom would provide Marvel with some more options. Annhilus gives the option of a GotG Annihilation story. Or Galactus as the follow-up to Thanos. Kang as a threat from the future come to the present. Doom as just being DOOM. I mean, I know they're building to Thanos, but beyond that. And they've got a plethora of heroes being unveiled over the next few years, and a rather sizeable (though not enormous) number of them already out there in the different Avengers characters that have already shown up. So it's not like there's a dearth of heroes to fight these villains if Marvel were to get them back.

 

So the point I'm making is that the FF themselves aren't really the primary appeal of Marvel getting the rights back from Fox. It's the villains. Most of the top-tier villains that I mentioned are bundled with the FF rights at Fox. So any way to get them to use them in other Marvel movies would be a big boost to Marvel.