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[01TheDude]

 

I hate descriptions like this. "CGC FINE+ 6.5"

 

Except of course it is not slabbed. And yes half way through the description it does say the book is not slabbed, but it just seems dishonest.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAMPIRELLA-1-WARREN-1969-CGC-FINE-6-5-FRAZETTA-EERIE-CREEPY-FAMOUS-MONSTERS-/321828037832?hash=item4aee7224c8

 

end rant

 

I sent them a note that they might want to edit that title.

 

It is not me but some people on the CGC message forum pointed out your book as being "dishonestly labelled" since it is not a CGC slabbed comic. Just a heads up that you might want to edit that out of your title to avoid their warpath.

 

post number 8803856

 

 

well -- what do you know--- I got a reply to my friendly heads up. Apparently this guy has a canned response to anything resembling this type of "criticism". Never mind the fact that I wasn't the person who gives a or wrote the dang post. Nope-- why get all concerned about the FREAKING DETAILS of what is going on.

 

this guy is just pure classic _________ --- well judge for yourself.

 

 

they replied:

 

Dear (me),

 

Thank you for the information. Of course folks can express their opinion on any and all subjects---it's their right and I strongly support that right. I might point out that since grading itself is also "just an opinion" I feel I have the right to voice my opinion as well. One of my opinions is that after grading for CGC for 4 years I have a much better handle on how to grade like they do than the average collector. I'm intimately familiar with their grading system and I'm still considered by some folks (you know who you are) to be an expert in the horror magazine genre. Warren magazines (specifically early Warren horror magazines) are one of the areas of my expertise. If anything, I was considered to be on the strict side when I graded for CGC---please keep this in mind when viewing my auctions. I hope my explanation has helped alleviate some of the tension...I certainly wouldn't want anyone to have a meltdown.

 

- lionsdenbooks

 

Hey hammerhead--- the reason people have a problem with your freaking description is that it FALSELY REPRESENTS YOUR ITEM AS BEING A CGC GRADED/SLABBED COMIC BOOK.

 

Some people don't get it. Avoid.

 

Report item>listing practices>search and browse manipulation>keyword spamming>type a love note about the item's misleading title.

 

 

 

BUT wait-- there's more....

 

 

so I respond with this:

"The reason people have a problem with your freaking description is that it FALSELY REPRESENTS YOUR ITEM AS BEING A CGC GRADED/SLABBED COMIC BOOK. Which regardless of your background, it clearly is NOT. "

 

to which they reply with this:

Thank you for your honest but somewhat misguided feedback. I would suggest you view my entire written description which clearly states that this book has NOT been slabbed (I even put specific emphasis on the word "not" in my description). However, if you don't value my experience or trust my grading regarding the condition of this book, then by all means do not bid on it. Perhaps you'd be more interested in the CGC Vampirella #3 I currently have for sale..? In any event, please have a wonderful week and thank you for your interest.

 

so I fire back yet again:

"Ironic-- you cannot seem to understand that putting the words CGC in your title is the problem as it influences peoples search engines who are looking solely for CGC slabbed books. NO ONE cares if you did or didn't work for CGC at some point or that your grade is accurate. They do find your title misleading-- it is just that simple. If your item is NOT CGC -- you should not put the words CGC in the title at all."

 

 

I don't know why I am doing this at this point. I don't care about the situation this much but the guy has some seriously warped ideas of how things can be listed on eBay.

[kav]

Sir: you are listing your item as a CGC 6.5. It is not a CGC anything. It's just that simple.

[wombat]

It will be interesting to see if ebay makes him change it.

 

And now I feel bad that I got Dude all riled up. Sorry about that.

Edited August 13, 2015 by wombat

[01TheDude]

It will be interesting to see if ebay makes him change it.

 

And now I feel bad that I got Dude all riled up. Sorry about that.

 

no worries-- the right thing to do would have been to adjust the title. I was trying to give him a heads up so that he wouldn't have to relist each of those items. As we have seen in the past-- this board doesn't like inaccurate eBay listings and has reported them into oblivion in the past. Not that I am calling for us to do this to all but ONE of the listing this user has BUT basically-- they are selling only one TRUE CGC slab -- the rest are his "expert graded" raw opinions.

[kav]

he has several of these books listed as such. i'll take care of this.

[wombat]

I reported a couple. Does the report function really have to be so stingy with how many characters you can type?

[01TheDude]

he has several of these books listed as such. i'll take care of this.

 

every book he is selling are raw except one that is CGC

[kav]

Ok per ebay I have emailed CGC with a link to his auctions and ebay's VERO dept number to get these pulled CGC must request it.

[kav]

Sir: you are infringing on CGC's copyright. Period. As an ex-employee, you should know this.

[01TheDude]

latest response-- he is standing his ground:

Hi,

I understand your concerns and I do understand how search engines operate. I'm sorry if my auctions are in any way a nuisance to your search for CGC books. But please understand that I use the CGC Grading system for comics and magazines and I feel that this is a valuable tool in my descriptive process. I want other people to know that I have a significant amount of experience with the CGC grading system and that the books they purchase from me are going to be graded accurately according to CGC standards (of which I have a written example). I actually check each book for restoration as well---how many sellers do you know that bother doing that? And I'm not just talking about color touch---I check for trimming, tear seals, glue repairs, married covers and pages, etc. There are lots of people now that put the word "MINT" in their title description and then when you read further you find that the book is not "MINT" at all, yet there are still plenty of those listings all over eBay. I look at it this way---if a seller wants to advertise his book a certain way, that's his right as a seller. He's putting the time in, he's paying the listing fees, he's paying the final value fee and God knows what else by the time it's done. We have a choice as a buyer to either purchase the book or pass on it. Believe me, I pass on a LOT of books these days. But if by some whim of fate I come across an honest seller like myself, who has maintained 100% positive feedback since his first eBay transaction, I'd most likely take a chance on him. And If he had ANY experience grading professionally, I'd be even more inclined to buy from him. So the choice is yours, my friend. Just know this: I stand behind every book I sell and I'll go the extra mile to make sure my customers are completely satisfied with their purchase. So whether or not you care about my experience is up to you---my feedback speaks for itself.

 

 

 

My response:

You cannot seem to understand that CGC is a grading brand name and you are representing the item you are selling as being associated with that brand name. That is not accurate. If I list some knockoff Zippo lighters as NOT ZIPPO in the title-- those ads still get pulled. You cannot use the name of the company if they didn't process the books and grade them-- you can not represent yourself as "using CGC grading standards" because frankly-- your titles do not say that. They imply these items are CGC and give a grade. You are not CGC and are inaccurately representing your items period. By putting that in the title -- even if you explain later in the description-- you are manipulating the search engines and misrepresenting the item in your titles.

[RockMyAmadeus]

Whether he worked for CGC or not is completely irrelevant.

 

He is keyword spamming, and doesn't care. He is above such petty, common concerns, and the rules clearly do not apply to him (in his head.) And, since eBay refuses to enforce these rules....voila!

 

And, his long winded excuses are just an attempt to justify that very simple fact.

 

eBay, also, does not care about keyword spamming, and lie that they do.

[01TheDude]

latest response-- he is standing his ground:

Hi,

I understand your concerns and I do understand how search engines operate. I'm sorry if my auctions are in any way a nuisance to your search for CGC books. But please understand that I use the CGC Grading system for comics and magazines and I feel that this is a valuable tool in my descriptive process. I want other people to know that I have a significant amount of experience with the CGC grading system and that the books they purchase from me are going to be graded accurately according to CGC standards (of which I have a written example). I actually check each book for restoration as well---how many sellers do you know that bother doing that? And I'm not just talking about color touch---I check for trimming, tear seals, glue repairs, married covers and pages, etc. There are lots of people now that put the word "MINT" in their title description and then when you read further you find that the book is not "MINT" at all, yet there are still plenty of those listings all over eBay. I look at it this way---if a seller wants to advertise his book a certain way, that's his right as a seller. He's putting the time in, he's paying the listing fees, he's paying the final value fee and God knows what else by the time it's done. We have a choice as a buyer to either purchase the book or pass on it. Believe me, I pass on a LOT of books these days. But if by some whim of fate I come across an honest seller like myself, who has maintained 100% positive feedback since his first eBay transaction, I'd most likely take a chance on him. And If he had ANY experience grading professionally, I'd be even more inclined to buy from him. So the choice is yours, my friend. Just know this: I stand behind every book I sell and I'll go the extra mile to make sure my customers are completely satisfied with their purchase. So whether or not you care about my experience is up to you---my feedback speaks for itself.

 

 

 

My response:

You cannot seem to understand that CGC is a grading brand name and you are representing the item you are selling as being associated with that brand name. That is not accurate. If I list some knockoff Zippo lighters as NOT ZIPPO in the title-- those ads still get pulled. You cannot use the name of the company if they didn't process the books and grade them-- you can not represent yourself as "using CGC grading standards" because frankly-- your titles do not say that. They imply these items are CGC and give a grade. You are not CGC and are inaccurately representing your items period. By putting that in the title -- even if you explain later in the description-- you are manipulating the search engines and misrepresenting the item in your titles.

 

 

I guess the discussion is over-- latest (possibly last) reply:

 

Have it your way, dude...

 

- lionsdenbooks

[kav]

He changed his listings to 'CGC grading standards!!'

[01TheDude]

he still is using the word CGC and worst yet, took the phrase I had in my response to him and used it in all his title.

 

what a sneak. Still gets the search hits for the CGC in the title. Maybe CGC will tell him to stop using their name in his title completely.

 

I give up-- not worth the time to try to get someone to stop throwing that word around as if he OWNS IT.

[kav]

Pretty sure CGC will shut this down. When I was new I used CGC in one of my listings and CGC had listing removed.

[fastballspecial]

latest response-- he is standing his ground:

Hi,

I understand your concerns and I do understand how search engines operate. I'm sorry if my auctions are in any way a nuisance to your search for CGC books. But please understand that I use the CGC Grading system for comics and magazines and I feel that this is a valuable tool in my descriptive process. I want other people to know that I have a significant amount of experience with the CGC grading system and that the books they purchase from me are going to be graded accurately according to CGC standards (of which I have a written example). I actually check each book for restoration as well---how many sellers do you know that bother doing that? And I'm not just talking about color touch---I check for trimming, tear seals, glue repairs, married covers and pages, etc. There are lots of people now that put the word "MINT" in their title description and then when you read further you find that the book is not "MINT" at all, yet there are still plenty of those listings all over eBay. I look at it this way---if a seller wants to advertise his book a certain way, that's his right as a seller. He's putting the time in, he's paying the listing fees, he's paying the final value fee and God knows what else by the time it's done. We have a choice as a buyer to either purchase the book or pass on it. Believe me, I pass on a LOT of books these days. But if by some whim of fate I come across an honest seller like myself, who has maintained 100% positive feedback since his first eBay transaction, I'd most likely take a chance on him. And If he had ANY experience grading professionally, I'd be even more inclined to buy from him. So the choice is yours, my friend. Just know this: I stand behind every book I sell and I'll go the extra mile to make sure my customers are completely satisfied with their purchase. So whether or not you care about my experience is up to you---my feedback speaks for itself.

 

 

 

My response:

You cannot seem to understand that CGC is a grading brand name and you are representing the item you are selling as being associated with that brand name. That is not accurate. If I list some knockoff Zippo lighters as NOT ZIPPO in the title-- those ads still get pulled. You cannot use the name of the company if they didn't process the books and grade them-- you can not represent yourself as "using CGC grading standards" because frankly-- your titles do not say that. They imply these items are CGC and give a grade. You are not CGC and are inaccurately representing your items period. By putting that in the title -- even if you explain later in the description-- you are manipulating the search engines and misrepresenting the item in your titles.

 

Just let it go. The guy isn't interesting an hearing anything, but his viewpoint which is wrong.

 

As I have found here lately some buyers can be very mentally unhinged. Keeping this up can only lead to more issues.

 

[manetteska]

How many times is this seller going to sell the exact same comic?

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/stonefist_collectables/m.html?item=201405111948&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

[Rich_Henn]

Someone else to add to your BLOCK BIDDER list

 

uclawillbeatsc

 

Dragged his feat for almost 2 months paying, claiming his paypal account was frozen.

 

Sent a check.

 

Check bounced.

 

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

AND my bank charged me a nice fee for the insufficient funds on that bank check :doh:

Edited August 19, 2015 by Rich_Henn

[PhoKing]

Add buyer:

 

gamestacker

 

Made very rude comments and stated he really really hoped he won my auction so he could leave a negative feedback.

 

Definitely somebody to avoid

[NTHstars]

valchrisinc2012

 

Interesting how all of the people I've had problems with ALWAYS have zero negative feedback.

 

327 positive feedbacks. (edit: actually 787 positive overall, 327 last 12 months)

 

Anyhoo, won at auction a $40-something dollar book from me many weeks ago, hits me with "I'm on vacation will pay when I'm back" and "there is no service here", and then disappears entirely.

 

I just hit him with an unpaid case, so I'm guessing another excuse is imminent.

Edited August 15, 2015 by NTHstars