~~THE~~GIVING~~TREE~~ 5 5

[comicalgems]

If I'm reading the rules correct, you can only have one in a 30 day period. If so that makes it tougher to take something. Will there be enough interest in this to make people wait 30 days? I have some nice stuff I can offer and would like the ss book being offered, but I would hate to miss a better ss book in a couple of weeks.

 

You have to factor in the number of SS books being offered is probably going to come up a couple times in a month and while you wait the quick fingers grabbers may eclipse their month and grab the SS you wanted. As long as you see something that interested you I'd grab it and you will be back in the game in a month. I think the new rule to outlaw mystery boxes will keep things moving a lot quicker since people don't like a mystery when they are putting up a comparable book.

 

So, for some people it's all about how much you can take and not at all what you can give. I see.

I thought the intent was to post up equal or more than you take? People still want a really cool book so they can post up a even cooler book.

 

 

 

Here in lies the dilemma. If this is truly about 'giving' then no one should care about which offer follows, but most do. The rub is that what is valuable varies, to a construction worker barely scraping up enough to put food on the table and still collect, putting up a $50 offer is no small potatoes, while to a lawyer that wouldn't bat an eye at posting a $300 slab, the $50 offer is . Is this thread truly about giving or outdoing the next guy? Both types of people are on this board and legitimately passionate about collecting, but can both coexist in a thread like this without it devolving into base accusation and name calling? Odds are against it.

 

I've been lurking through the PIF thread and this one and I can't believe how difficult some boardies are when it comes to claiming and offering things. Practice common sense. If you claim something expensive offer something close to it. You know damn well what "something close to it" is so stop playing games. Can't offer something close to it? Don't claim it then. Want to cry about the notion that this should just be about "giving" and singing cumbaya around a campfire, well here you go then

 

That's my point, if you have to offer something of similar value to it, then it is not 'giving' is it. I'm not poor, nor rich, I have some good stuff to offer, but if I am truly into giving, I would take great joy from the fact that somebody got something that they may not ever be able to afford on their own, why would I 'expect' that they offer something of similar value (beyond their means) on their own? I am not naive, and I am sure that bottom feeders exist, but I am not so cynical to assume that there are not good-hearted lower middle class (or lower) boardies that could receive the gift of a lifetime (in their eyes) and I kind of like that idea. I have seen every offer here and haven't grabbed any of them. I'm not posting out of self interest, just openly asking if this is truly a 'giving tree' or a 'reciprocating tree', if it is the latter, then the name of the thread should be updated accordingly.

 

How about we just have a thread called "sign up for free mess" then you go in and make a post about what you collect-your rough monthly collecting budget-then if someone wants to pick someone off the inevitable list of 100+ sign ups....then there you go.

 

Personally, I like the thread.

[HarveySwick]

I make less than $20k/year. Am I a bottom-feeder?

 

Peace,

 

Chip

Chip, are you here to take advantage of people's generous offers and cash in while doing the bear minimum in return?

[HarveySwick]

 

That was a great offer! Congrats bud! Very cool statue!

[Jiminy_Cricket-migration]

I make less than $20k/year. Am I a bottom-feeder?

 

Peace,

 

Chip

 

You are if you purposely devise a plan to repeatedly hit the refresh button to snag every great offer and then offer up drek in return for the sole purpose of reselling the items to make a profit. Does this sound like you? It has nothing to do with your current wealth.

[Jiminy_Cricket-migration]

I'm not sure if you watched the PIF thread, but there were NOT people that were the sad case you speak of. There were several that were patiently waiting for great offerings KNOWING they could not (or would not) reciprocate. But it didn't stop them one bit from taking. Then the community got together and tried to fix the issue regarding the taking. Sadly, they had to do something about those people just simply taking so they made the "revert back to the last offer" rule. That unfortunately still did nothing to prevent those takers from joining forces like some warped supervillain team to get what they wanted and cheat the system. It became a sad, pathetic joke and a shell of what it was supposed to be.

 

They never learned. They never tried to change things up. They didn't even hide the fact that they KNEW they were stalling the thread and scoffed about it with each other. That's not the sad case you describe where Johnny Blue Collar gets something he otherwise wouldn't. These are guys playing the system to get something of value and preying off of other's generosity to just run off to eBay with their winnings and sell sell sell. Make no mistake - I WISH we could make this thread like you discussed. But until we can weed out those that prey on the system, the plight of Johnny Blue Collar is hindered.

 

(thumbs u

[Chip Cataldo]

Chip, are you here to take advantage of people's generous offers and cash in while doing the bear minimum in return?

"Heyyyy, Boo-Boo! Is that a pic-a-nic basket filled with Saga #1 9.8 slabs? I've got Ranger Smith's hat I can post up in exchange!"

 

Peace,

 

Chip

[Beige]

Take these 2 slabs.

 

Free shipping in Australia

go 50/50 elsewhere (if that's ok Harv?)

 

 

Mind Mngt #1 (nn) variant CGC 9.8

 

 

Peter Panzerfaust #9 CGC 9.8

 

I'll add to these if people think they blow chunks. (thumbs u

[Chip Cataldo]

I make less than $20k/year. Am I a bottom-feeder?

 

Peace,

 

Chip

 

You are if you purposely devise a plan to repeatedly hit the refresh button to snag every great offer and then offer up drek in return for the sole purpose of reselling the items to make a profit. Does this sound like you? It has nothing to do with your current wealth.

I know. It's not about the size of the dinghy, it's all about the motion of the ocean.

 

I tried to offer up something I thought was of equal value. I kept adding 5 more books to the pile until I was comfortable with it.

 

Peace,

 

Chip

Edited July 6, 2014 by Chip Cataldo

[HarveySwick]

Chip, are you here to take advantage of people's generous offers and cash in while doing the bear minimum in return?

"Heyyyy, Boo-Boo! Is that a pic-a-nic basket filled with Saga #1 9.8 slabs? I've got Ranger Smith's hat I can post up in exchange!"

 

Peace,

 

Chip

 

Believe me - in the past I've had to make sure it was "bear" and not "bare".

[kav]

These are awesome as are everything thats been grabbed so far-but what about us guys that dont do moderns-more SA please!!!

[stanley1883]

What if this worked in reverse. With the exception of Harvey kicking it off, pattern is take then give. What if there were multiple offers up, if your offer is claimed , you get to pick next. :shrug: could eliminate the bad offers part, plus it would really be about giving as your offering something first...

 

.....Or I'm talking crazy...just a thought.

[Tom473]

I hear you Harvey and I like the idea of PIF and giving tree, but if every offer is scrutinized on dollar value, to me, it misses the point and spirit of the thread. If every subsequent offer must be of equal or greater value, then how long before every thread like this eventually devolves into a high end circle jerk, instead of, 'oh I always wanted to read or have that in my collection, I'll take it' like a true giveaway? There needs to be some balance between the bottom feeder opportunists and the high end judgmental attitudes that sometimes come to bear.

[comicalgems]

The only time you have to be sure is when it's about nipples. HUGE difference between bare and bear then.

[HarveySwick]

What if this worked in reverse. With the exception of Harvey kicking it off, pattern is take then give. What if there were multiple offers up, if your offer is claimed , you get to pick next. :shrug: could eliminate the bad offers part, plus it would really be about giving as your offering something first...

 

.....Or I'm talking crazy...just a thought.

 

How would it play out? Draw a sketch. I need pictures.

[jsilverjanet]

First option is The Dark Knight Strikes Again statue sculpted by William Paquet and designed by Frank Miller. There were 7,500 made. If no interest, I can add other options. I will cover shipping within the US.

 

 

 

I would have liked this.

 

 

[HarveySwick]

The only time you have to be sure is when it's about nipples. HUGE difference between bare and bear then.

In that instance it would be vs.

[Beige]

These are awesome as are everything thats been grabbed so far-but what about us guys that dont do moderns-more SA please!!!

 

Thanks - I gave away a slabbed early X-Men in PIF.

1st and last time.......

[Beige]

Take these 2 slabs.

 

Free shipping in Australia

go 50/50 elsewhere (if that's ok Harv?)

 

 

Mind Mngt #1 (nn) variant CGC 9.8

 

 

Peter Panzerfaust #9 CGC 9.8

 

I'll add to these if people think they blow chunks. (thumbs u

 

 

 

Less moaney, more takey!

[HarveySwick]

These are awesome as are everything thats been grabbed so far-but what about us guys that dont do moderns-more SA please!!!

 

Thanks - I gave away a slabbed early X-Men in PIF.

1st and last time.......

This isn't PIF.

 

If you don't think the person that takes your offer is being generous, you can always veto and have your offer put back up!

[Beige]

Just replying to Kav.

 

This offer alright, or need more zing?