Mark 1 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Avenges 4 is not a mega or major key. Also looking at nose bleed grades for valuation over time is a bad idea. 9.6 and 9.8s are very volatile and have declined over the years as more and more available 9.6 and 9.8s became available. When there was only 1 or a few 9.8s or 9.6s people paid through the nose in the early years of CGC. Now a lot of those books have dropped in the nose bleed grades. I check 9.2 and mid grade to assess long term value. Also I don't believe comics should be a sole investment. If you don't have a savings account with at least 3-6 months salary and a retirement fund...those should be first priories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 AV4 is a mega-key. Cap returns and joins the Avengers. Hulk 181 > GSX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroX Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 AV4 is a mega-key. Cap returns and joins the Avengers. I'm not a Captain America fan or an Avengers fan, but I think AV4 is a major key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Descriptors are getting minced here. Mega Key = First Appearance of Major Character or Team - Amazing Fantasy 15 - Avengers 1 - Incredible Hulk 1 - etc Avengers 4 is a "key" book, but definitely not a "Mega" key. It could arguably be a second or third tier key, but not a top tier. A very valuable book though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Let's throw more buzzwords around. Super food, game changer, absolutely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 1 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Descriptors are getting minced here. Mega Key = First Appearance of Major Character or Team - Amazing Fantasy 15 - Avengers 1 - Incredible Hulk 1 - etc Avengers 4 is a "key" book, but definitely not a "Mega" key. It could arguably be a second or third tier key, but not a top tier. A very valuable book though. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Descriptors are getting minced here. Mega Key = First Appearance of Major Character or Team - Amazing Fantasy 15 - Avengers 1 - Incredible Hulk 1 - etc Avengers 4 is a "key" book, but definitely not a "Mega" key. It could arguably be a second or third tier key, but not a top tier. A very valuable book though. +1 Though with people trying to turn books with Brother Voodoo's, Rocket Raccoon's, Black Adam's etc. first appearances into "keys", I can't blame some for now mistaking Avengers 4 as a "mega key". -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RockMyAmadeus Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 But, Silver Age keys have always climbed in price. Go look at a 1980 price guide and see what Hulk 1 was valued at....see what it is today. See what it was in 1990. It has always climbed. You are incorrect. No sir you are incorrect. Show me where a SA mega key has declined in value since 1980. Instead of sweeping blanket statements...back it up with data. Every year OSPG would increase the price of keys like hulk 1, TOS 39, JIM 83, etc.ive not see I showed earlier that since 2002 Hulk 181 has increased in value. You love to tell people they are wrong but how about some substance behind your posting? You remain incorrect. If you believe I cannot support my statement, I'm ok with that. "You are incorrect" is, however, not a sweeping blanket statement. Ok RMA, I'll just take your word for it since you show no data. As I said, go look at any mega key from the SA in a 1980 price guide and tell me any of those keys has declined in price or a bubble burst on them today. I'll be waiting That's not how debate works. If you make a claim, it is up to you to prove said claim, if challenged. It is not up to others to DISprove it. No need for the eyeroll; that's the way it is. By the way..."price guide" is only one way of considering historical values (and not really the best way, at that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 So if I claim getting stabbed in the eye is very painful I have to prove it to my opponent by stabbing him in the eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundrycollect Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I would buy the earliest pre 1954 Batman book that you can. Any condition VG or higher. Short of that...any pre-1954 super-hero. Short of that...any sci-fi EC. Whatever it is...stay pre-1954. After that...stuff is just too common. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 So if I claim getting stabbed in the eye is very painful I have to prove it to my opponent by stabbing him in the eye? Ah, a false dichotomy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrothecollector Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 But, Silver Age keys have always climbed in price. Go look at a 1980 price guide and see what Hulk 1 was valued at....see what it is today. See what it was in 1990. It has always climbed. You are incorrect. No sir you are incorrect. Show me where a SA mega key has declined in value since 1980. Instead of sweeping blanket statements...back it up with data. Every year OSPG would increase the price of keys like hulk 1, TOS 39, JIM 83, etc.ive not see I showed earlier that since 2002 Hulk 181 has increased in value. You love to tell people they are wrong but how about some substance behind your posting? You remain incorrect. If you believe I cannot support my statement, I'm ok with that. "You are incorrect" is, however, not a sweeping blanket statement. Ok RMA, I'll just take your word for it since you show no data. As I said, go look at any mega key from the SA in a 1980 price guide and tell me any of those keys has declined in price or a bubble burst on them today. I'll be waiting That's not how debate works. If you make a claim, it is up to you to prove said claim, if challenged. It is not up to others to DISprove it. No need for the eyeroll; that's the way it is. By the way..."price guide" is only one way of considering historical values (and not really the best way, at that.) So far then, both of you have not proven valid proof in your claims. If I was new and reading this, I would side with Mark1's claim/statement, because it not only makes more sense but I would have done my own research even if there's very little info to go on like OSPG, etc. and found it to be somewhat true. Historically speaking, Major/Mega keys have always increased in price. That sir is a FACT! Prove to us RMA, that it hasn't and I will tuck my tail between my legs and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He11blazer Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 More like almost always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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