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I don`t get why everybody loves Marvel`s Civil War and doesn`t love DC`s BvS?

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Gatsby77

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Also if these movies keep stressing about collateral damage im going to get really upset... they are superhero movies it takes me out of it when they have to be PC about stuff... BVS did the same thing.

 

Naw G...

 

They gots to set up Damage Control.

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Rmfn33

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Also if these movies keep stressing about collateral damage im going to get really upset... they are superhero movies it takes me out of it when they have to be PC about stuff... BVS did the same thing.

 

Naw G...

 

They gots to set up Damage Control.

 

Even more my point.... Damage Control has to repair cities.. if they keep saying we have to fight away from cities and people what is Damage control going to fix haha

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I don't think anyone is saying CW is three times better

 

I'll say it! CW was three times better than BvS.

 

Maybe four.

3.89X better. Almost four.
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I don't think anyone is saying CW is three times better

 

I'll say it! CW was three times better than BvS.

 

Maybe four.

3.89X better. Almost four.

 

π x better. Easily.

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Honestly I think it comes down to this... and I know the OP very badly wants everyone to love BvS, and if HE loved it? If anyone loved it? They don't need to apologize. Shoot, I love the movie Ishtar (look it up kiddies - Also, check it out... it's really funny). Don't apologize for something you like.

 

That being said? You can't WILL people to like a flawed movie, or try to bring down a better movie to raise up a movie you like. Just like what you like and be happy.

 

 

Here's how I see it.

 

DC has KILLED IT on the TV Universe. Fabulous. But they made a choice not to connect that to its cinematic universe. Fine.

 

DC KILLED IT with the Nolan trilogy. However, it wasn't a set of movies that they felt were something they could use for universe building. So while they were being universally lauded, they were also falling incredibly far behind Marvel who was carefully building a universe on all fronts. Movies, TV, even streaming now.

 

The end result?

 

When we get a movie like Civil War - which was phenomenal... every beat in that movie is earned. Every small character moment is something that calls back to something we know about that CINEMATIC version of that character. We understand WHY these conflicts happen, and HOW these personalities could come to this. The have weight to them. Yes, those of us who love the comics know even more in the background... but increasingly with such a rich cinematic history... it's less and less important to know that. You can know Steve Rogers from the hours you've seen him on screen. You know Tony Stark too. When they fight in this movie, you don't want them to lose their friendship. Like I said it's well earned.

 

BvS? Any depth to that movie we as comic fans had to BRING to it from our knowledge of the comic characters... because otherwise we're getting it from very limited screen time and not much else. The Batman Superman fight is resolved because their mothers are both named Martha? I mean honestly... I love the characters. I thought Affleck was a great Batman. But it's hard to argue that movie had any of the real impact of Civil War. And certainly not for people who just are basing it on the movies.

 

I do believe that Civil War is the movie Zack Snyder THOUGHT he was making with BvS... but because of the great success of TV and the Nolan trilogy they tried to skip all the steps Marvel took to get to the place where they could make that movie. And that's why on a number of levels it was a let down.

 

 

Was it still fun to see those characters on the screen? Sure. But was it a disappointment? To me it was. If it wasn't to you? Great. You're lucky. But, no OP, I don't think there's any Marvel vs DC bias. I just think that you perhaps have such a love for the DC characters that you're bringing that knowledge and love to the viewing of BvS and seeing more than what was on the screen... and that's why your reaction to it was different than many others who looked at it on it's own merits. But like I said, you're entitled to do that, and if you enjoyed it, I think that's great.

I think there is. No way is Civil War three times better than BvS!

That`s the differential if we go by Rotten Tomatoes.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice :27%

Captain America: Civil War :90%

:o

If someone asks me which of the two I want to see again. I am going with BvS!

Plus, they are at least will be offering me an R rated version next.

 

Another thing I want to point out I am not sold yet on Civil War`s final box office.

I will not be shocked if it doesn`t beat BvS at the box office!

I have a funny feeling Civil War`s box office is front-loaded.

btw

I loved Civil War,but no way is it three times better than BvS! That`s my beef!

Clearly there is a bias just like there is a bias among Apple users over PC users!

To give BvS a 27% is unfathomable!

 

 

 

I actually don't think it's unfathomable to believe that Civil War is three times better than B v S. I watched both myself and I would say Civil War is actually FOUR times better than B v S. Maybe even FIVE. You're lucky Rotten tomatoes went easy on that piece of garbage. If the critics weren't so biased to Warner Bros and DC they would have given it 0 to 10% . Too bad DC pays of the critics.

 

 

 

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ComicConnoisseur

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Honestly I think it comes down to this... and I know the OP very badly wants everyone to love BvS, and if HE loved it? If anyone loved it? They don't need to apologize. Shoot, I love the movie Ishtar (look it up kiddies - Also, check it out... it's really funny). Don't apologize for something you like.

 

That being said? You can't WILL people to like a flawed movie, or try to bring down a better movie to raise up a movie you like. Just like what you like and be happy.

 

 

Here's how I see it.

 

DC has KILLED IT on the TV Universe. Fabulous. But they made a choice not to connect that to its cinematic universe. Fine.

 

DC KILLED IT with the Nolan trilogy. However, it wasn't a set of movies that they felt were something they could use for universe building. So while they were being universally lauded, they were also falling incredibly far behind Marvel who was carefully building a universe on all fronts. Movies, TV, even streaming now.

 

The end result?

 

When we get a movie like Civil War - which was phenomenal... every beat in that movie is earned. Every small character moment is something that calls back to something we know about that CINEMATIC version of that character. We understand WHY these conflicts happen, and HOW these personalities could come to this. The have weight to them. Yes, those of us who love the comics know even more in the background... but increasingly with such a rich cinematic history... it's less and less important to know that. You can know Steve Rogers from the hours you've seen him on screen. You know Tony Stark too. When they fight in this movie, you don't want them to lose their friendship. Like I said it's well earned.

 

BvS? Any depth to that movie we as comic fans had to BRING to it from our knowledge of the comic characters... because otherwise we're getting it from very limited screen time and not much else. The Batman Superman fight is resolved because their mothers are both named Martha? I mean honestly... I love the characters. I thought Affleck was a great Batman. But it's hard to argue that movie had any of the real impact of Civil War. And certainly not for people who just are basing it on the movies.

 

I do believe that Civil War is the movie Zack Snyder THOUGHT he was making with BvS... but because of the great success of TV and the Nolan trilogy they tried to skip all the steps Marvel took to get to the place where they could make that movie. And that's why on a number of levels it was a let down.

 

 

Was it still fun to see those characters on the screen? Sure. But was it a disappointment? To me it was. If it wasn't to you? Great. You're lucky. But, no OP, I don't think there's any Marvel vs DC bias. I just think that you perhaps have such a love for the DC characters that you're bringing that knowledge and love to the viewing of BvS and seeing more than what was on the screen... and that's why your reaction to it was different than many others who looked at it on it's own merits. But like I said, you're entitled to do that, and if you enjoyed it, I think that's great.

I think there is. No way is Civil War three times better than BvS!

That`s the differential if we go by Rotten Tomatoes.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice :27%

Captain America: Civil War :90%

:o

If someone asks me which of the two I want to see again. I am going with BvS!

Plus, they are at least will be offering me an R rated version next.

 

Another thing I want to point out I am not sold yet on Civil War`s final box office.

I will not be shocked if it doesn`t beat BvS at the box office!

I have a funny feeling Civil War`s box office is front-loaded.

btw

I loved Civil War,but no way is it three times better than BvS! That`s my beef!

Clearly there is a bias just like there is a bias among Apple users over PC users!

To give BvS a 27% is unfathomable!

 

 

 

I actually don't think it's unfathomable to believe that Civil War is three times better than B v S. I watched both myself and I would say Civil War is actually FOUR times better than B v S. Maybe even FIVE. You're lucky Rotten tomatoes went easy on that piece of garbage. If the critics weren't so biased to Warner Bros and DC they would have given it 0 to 10% . Too bad DC pays of the critics.

 

 

Blasphemy! :insane:

Well,now we know how you feel about BvS. I respect your opinion.At least your honest about it.

:shy:

 

 

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Honestly I think it comes down to this... and I know the OP very badly wants everyone to love BvS, and if HE loved it? If anyone loved it? They don't need to apologize. Shoot, I love the movie Ishtar (look it up kiddies - Also, check it out... it's really funny). Don't apologize for something you like.

 

That being said? You can't WILL people to like a flawed movie, or try to bring down a better movie to raise up a movie you like. Just like what you like and be happy.

 

 

Here's how I see it.

 

DC has KILLED IT on the TV Universe. Fabulous. But they made a choice not to connect that to its cinematic universe. Fine.

 

DC KILLED IT with the Nolan trilogy. However, it wasn't a set of movies that they felt were something they could use for universe building. So while they were being universally lauded, they were also falling incredibly far behind Marvel who was carefully building a universe on all fronts. Movies, TV, even streaming now.

 

The end result?

 

When we get a movie like Civil War - which was phenomenal... every beat in that movie is earned. Every small character moment is something that calls back to something we know about that CINEMATIC version of that character. We understand WHY these conflicts happen, and HOW these personalities could come to this. The have weight to them. Yes, those of us who love the comics know even more in the background... but increasingly with such a rich cinematic history... it's less and less important to know that. You can know Steve Rogers from the hours you've seen him on screen. You know Tony Stark too. When they fight in this movie, you don't want them to lose their friendship. Like I said it's well earned.

 

BvS? Any depth to that movie we as comic fans had to BRING to it from our knowledge of the comic characters... because otherwise we're getting it from very limited screen time and not much else. The Batman Superman fight is resolved because their mothers are both named Martha? I mean honestly... I love the characters. I thought Affleck was a great Batman. But it's hard to argue that movie had any of the real impact of Civil War. And certainly not for people who just are basing it on the movies.

 

I do believe that Civil War is the movie Zack Snyder THOUGHT he was making with BvS... but because of the great success of TV and the Nolan trilogy they tried to skip all the steps Marvel took to get to the place where they could make that movie. And that's why on a number of levels it was a let down.

 

 

Was it still fun to see those characters on the screen? Sure. But was it a disappointment? To me it was. If it wasn't to you? Great. You're lucky. But, no OP, I don't think there's any Marvel vs DC bias. I just think that you perhaps have such a love for the DC characters that you're bringing that knowledge and love to the viewing of BvS and seeing more than what was on the screen... and that's why your reaction to it was different than many others who looked at it on it's own merits. But like I said, you're entitled to do that, and if you enjoyed it, I think that's great.

I think there is. No way is Civil War three times better than BvS!

That`s the differential if we go by Rotten Tomatoes.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice :27%

Captain America: Civil War :90%

:o

If someone asks me which of the two I want to see again. I am going with BvS!

Plus, they are at least will be offering me an R rated version next.

 

Another thing I want to point out I am not sold yet on Civil War`s final box office.

I will not be shocked if it doesn`t beat BvS at the box office!

I have a funny feeling Civil War`s box office is front-loaded.

btw

I loved Civil War,but no way is it three times better than BvS! That`s my beef!

Clearly there is a bias just like there is a bias among Apple users over PC users!

To give BvS a 27% is unfathomable!

 

 

 

I actually don't think it's unfathomable to believe that Civil War is three times better than B v S. I watched both myself and I would say Civil War is actually FOUR times better than B v S. Maybe even FIVE. You're lucky Rotten tomatoes went easy on that piece of garbage. If the critics weren't so biased to Warner Bros and DC they would have given it 0 to 10% . Too bad DC pays of the critics.

 

 

Blasphemy! :insane:

Well,now we know how you feel about BvS. I respect your opinion.At least your honest about it.

:shy:

 

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I have a friend whose favorite movie was Dune, so there's no accounting for good taste. That being said, I sat through BvS in utter disappointment, while I couldn't help but like Civil War. It wasn't even close for me.

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I have a friend whose favorite movie was Dune, so there's no accounting for good taste. That being said, I sat through BvS in utter disappointment, while I couldn't help but like Civil War. It wasn't even close for me.

 

I love Dune.

 

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I thought BvS was great as it kept me entertained. Coming from a Marvel guy, I found BvS to be slightly better than AoU.

 

CW on the other hand is far superior movie than BvS - it was a total geek fest!

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