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[Jeffro.]

I think people are more forgiving of a seller's missteps if they have a long history or friendship with the seller.

 

I agree but that's not unique to the boards. That's life in general.

 

Some people are more forgiving if the seller has quality material. As if the sellers who don't deal in the high end stuff are somehow not deserving of that same level of forgiveness.

[Dr_Neff]

I missed all this. Can someone give me a brief recap of what happened? Thanks.

 

Here it is for ease of folks checking it out, and if questions/concerns remain.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5371936#Post5371936

 

 

Well he's deleted ALL of the "Rah!! Rah!! Let's do it for the kids" and "Wizard and GPA and CGC and Harley Yee have all donated to the cause".

 

Now it's straight for sale thread without all the implications that these auctions are for charity. Probably for the best since he couldn't/refused to answer very simple questions about what the money was for, how it was going to be used, etc.

 

People were donating books, listing them in that original thread, assuming it was going directly to the kids. I don't think they ever got an answer. I don't think that was an accident.

 

THEY = Me was selling MY comic books to raise money to pay for trip, relaunching charity anticipating participation not condemnation. As it stands, I have now raised the money to file for my IRS recognition after which I (THEY) plan to continue giving comics to kids for free, to improve literacy and encourage imagination. My former co workers at CGC graded MY comics for me, that I sold and used to go to New Orleans where MY friends gave me a table and I networked with old and new friends, including Stan Lee who Thanked ME for my efforts. The CGC board is not the place to bounce ideas ~ Rather after concrete legalization will return to recruit those in favor. I appreciate all curious to email me at comics4kids@aim.com Special Thanks to the people who deserve it

Edited January 31, 2012 by Dr_Neff

[Park]

I missed all this. Can someone give me a brief recap of what happened? Thanks.

 

Here it is for ease of folks checking it out, and if questions/concerns remain.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5371936#Post5371936

 

 

Well he's deleted ALL of the "Rah!! Rah!! Let's do it for the kids" and "Wizard and GPA and CGC and Harley Yee have all donated to the cause".

 

Now it's straight for sale thread without all the implications that these auctions are for charity. Probably for the best since he couldn't/refused to answer very simple questions about what the money was for, how it was going to be used, etc.

 

People were donating books, listing them in that original thread, assuming it was going directly to the kids. I don't think they ever got an answer. I don't think that was an accident.

 

THEY = Me was selling MY comic books to raise money to pay for trip, relaunching charity anticipating participation not condemnation. As it stands, I have now raised the money to file for my IRS recognition after which I (THEY) plan to continue giving comics to kids for free, to improve literacy and encourage imagination. My former co workers at CGC graded MY comics for me, that I sold and used to go to New Orleans where MY friends gave me a table and I networked with old and new friends, including Stan Lee who Thanked ME for my efforts. The CGC board is not the place to bounce ideas ~ Rather after concrete legalization will return to recruit those in favor. I appreciate all curious to email me at comics4kids@aim.com Special Thanks to the people who deserve it

 

Nice spin Jar-jar.

 

Never did mention anything on these Boards about raising money for your trip until somebody questioned you after seeing it on Ebay.

 

Even if you did obtain all the necessary IRS recognition, I would have a big problem donating anything to an "organization" that sells posters depicting child pornography.

 

Hyperbolic spin. Fun how that works out.

 

Stop selling X-rated movie posters featuring an underage girl, inform people that you are not recognized as a charitable organization by anyone other than yourself and state the real reason you were selling the books on here and maybe you will get a better reception.

[seanfingh]

 

I would like to know if he is really that white dude in the picture or not.

[Park]

I would like to know if he is really that white dude in the picture or not.

 

Go here.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=25&page=1

 

[Speedy-D]

So what's the community standard that everyone is supposed to follow? Everyone seems to be protective of the common good except when it comes to someone getting 'overpaid' (for lack of a better term) when it comes to selling their books. By association, "grade comments" are also frowned upon since we're on a forum where grade is the main only determining factor for price.

 

Why is asking about price/grade so frowned upon here? Is it because the majority of participants here are collector/dealers?

 

Many here praise or quote GPA regularly and those selling will selectively choose the data that best supports their 'ask prices' - I'd think a community minded person would be within their rights to offer the broader GPA picture for the benefit of non-subscribers in a sellers thread but that doesn't happen here. Is that seller offering limited favourable data misleading people enough to get called out in his own thread?

 

Also, you can't ask for GPA on a book publicly but if you post GPA data in your sales thread, it's valuable data to 'help buyers' make an informed buying decision. If a seller can quote GPA, why can't a buyer ask for it in the sales thread - is that an acceptable thread-krap tactic?

 

When it comes to lying, cheating or fraud the community acts for the greater good of all parties - when it comes to market pricing and information within the sales forum the "collective board wisdom" demands discretion on behalf of the sellers. I don't disagree with maintaining a dealer friendly forum by having this kind of etiquette in place but I am usually entertained when someone chooses to ignore it so I'm not complaining.

 

 

 

All very well said.

 

To answer the section in bold above, I subscribe to the "Tao of Fingh". Specifically, the 7th tenet which states: "Don't start none. Won't be none."

 

If a seller is lying, cheating, or a fraud, he has crossed all lines of respect, decency, and forum decorum and deserves to be met on his chosen field of battle.

 

If a seller simply has a different opinion of the value of his books, I don't see how it's anyone's place to derail and destroy a thread on those scant grounds. Especially when most of the people doing it would NEVER do the same thing at a convention, in a seller's space, and plenty of those people are friends with dealers who aren't afraid to put any price they choose on a book.

 

What a book is worth is an opinion, always has been. And without those opinions, and the people willing to share the same opinion, the market would have never moved. Unless the seller has crossed the lines mentioned above and has respected the board and its members in his posting he is entitled to have his sales thread, unmolested, and free to soar or fall on its own steam.

 

Praise be the Fingh, and his firm but learned iron fist.

I think the argument that you wouldn't act that way in "real life" as opposed to online is weak. Everyone knows, it's very well documented, that people behave differently online. That's just a fact. It's true that people behave differently in person, on the phone, in writing ... it's just human nature.

 

"Common board wisdom" hold more water with me. I don't feel as strongly about this issue as I do about most things that get hashed out here. If you're asking 5 times GPA for a comic, it doesn't seem so horribly harmful to call you on it. But we don't do that here, and I respect that as a decision that's been made collectively. I'm also a firm believer that those threads with outrageous prices will die under the weight of chirping crickets.

[comix4fun]

So what's the community standard that everyone is supposed to follow? Everyone seems to be protective of the common good except when it comes to someone getting 'overpaid' (for lack of a better term) when it comes to selling their books. By association, "grade comments" are also frowned upon since we're on a forum where grade is the main only determining factor for price.

 

Why is asking about price/grade so frowned upon here? Is it because the majority of participants here are collector/dealers?

 

Many here praise or quote GPA regularly and those selling will selectively choose the data that best supports their 'ask prices' - I'd think a community minded person would be within their rights to offer the broader GPA picture for the benefit of non-subscribers in a sellers thread but that doesn't happen here. Is that seller offering limited favourable data misleading people enough to get called out in his own thread?

 

Also, you can't ask for GPA on a book publicly but if you post GPA data in your sales thread, it's valuable data to 'help buyers' make an informed buying decision. If a seller can quote GPA, why can't a buyer ask for it in the sales thread - is that an acceptable thread-krap tactic?

 

When it comes to lying, cheating or fraud the community acts for the greater good of all parties - when it comes to market pricing and information within the sales forum the "collective board wisdom" demands discretion on behalf of the sellers. I don't disagree with maintaining a dealer friendly forum by having this kind of etiquette in place but I am usually entertained when someone chooses to ignore it so I'm not complaining.

 

 

 

All very well said.

 

To answer the section in bold above, I subscribe to the "Tao of Fingh". Specifically, the 7th tenet which states: "Don't start none. Won't be none."

 

If a seller is lying, cheating, or a fraud, he has crossed all lines of respect, decency, and forum decorum and deserves to be met on his chosen field of battle.

 

If a seller simply has a different opinion of the value of his books, I don't see how it's anyone's place to derail and destroy a thread on those scant grounds. Especially when most of the people doing it would NEVER do the same thing at a convention, in a seller's space, and plenty of those people are friends with dealers who aren't afraid to put any price they choose on a book.

 

What a book is worth is an opinion, always has been. And without those opinions, and the people willing to share the same opinion, the market would have never moved. Unless the seller has crossed the lines mentioned above and has respected the board and its members in his posting he is entitled to have his sales thread, unmolested, and free to soar or fall on its own steam.

 

Praise be the Fingh, and his firm but learned iron fist.

I think the argument that you wouldn't act that way in "real life" as opposed to online is weak. Everyone knows, it's very well documented, that people behave differently online. That's just a fact. It's true that people behave differently in person, on the phone, in writing ... it's just human nature.

 

 

It wasn't a commentary on how different behavior is in the different arenas (convention and sales thread). It was a commentary on how similar a person's sales thread is to a convention table, or a shop, or a business...and if people do not, cannot and would not say something derogatory to the seller directly in those arenas there is nothing so different about a sales thread that makes it acceptable here.

 

I know a lot of people who act the same regardless of whether it's written word or face to face. I have learned to appreciate it a great deal.

[Speedy-D]

So what's the community standard that everyone is supposed to follow? Everyone seems to be protective of the common good except when it comes to someone getting 'overpaid' (for lack of a better term) when it comes to selling their books. By association, "grade comments" are also frowned upon since we're on a forum where grade is the main only determining factor for price.

 

Why is asking about price/grade so frowned upon here? Is it because the majority of participants here are collector/dealers?

 

Many here praise or quote GPA regularly and those selling will selectively choose the data that best supports their 'ask prices' - I'd think a community minded person would be within their rights to offer the broader GPA picture for the benefit of non-subscribers in a sellers thread but that doesn't happen here. Is that seller offering limited favourable data misleading people enough to get called out in his own thread?

 

Also, you can't ask for GPA on a book publicly but if you post GPA data in your sales thread, it's valuable data to 'help buyers' make an informed buying decision. If a seller can quote GPA, why can't a buyer ask for it in the sales thread - is that an acceptable thread-krap tactic?

 

When it comes to lying, cheating or fraud the community acts for the greater good of all parties - when it comes to market pricing and information within the sales forum the "collective board wisdom" demands discretion on behalf of the sellers. I don't disagree with maintaining a dealer friendly forum by having this kind of etiquette in place but I am usually entertained when someone chooses to ignore it so I'm not complaining.

 

 

 

All very well said.

 

To answer the section in bold above, I subscribe to the "Tao of Fingh". Specifically, the 7th tenet which states: "Don't start none. Won't be none."

 

If a seller is lying, cheating, or a fraud, he has crossed all lines of respect, decency, and forum decorum and deserves to be met on his chosen field of battle.

 

If a seller simply has a different opinion of the value of his books, I don't see how it's anyone's place to derail and destroy a thread on those scant grounds. Especially when most of the people doing it would NEVER do the same thing at a convention, in a seller's space, and plenty of those people are friends with dealers who aren't afraid to put any price they choose on a book.

 

What a book is worth is an opinion, always has been. And without those opinions, and the people willing to share the same opinion, the market would have never moved. Unless the seller has crossed the lines mentioned above and has respected the board and its members in his posting he is entitled to have his sales thread, unmolested, and free to soar or fall on its own steam.

 

Praise be the Fingh, and his firm but learned iron fist.

I think the argument that you wouldn't act that way in "real life" as opposed to online is weak. Everyone knows, it's very well documented, that people behave differently online. That's just a fact. It's true that people behave differently in person, on the phone, in writing ... it's just human nature.

 

 

It wasn't a commentary on how different behavior is in the different arenas (convention and sales thread). It was a commentary on how similar a person's sales thread is to a convention table, or a shop, or a business...and if people do not, cannot and would not say something derogatory to the seller directly in those arenas there is nothing so different about a sales thread that makes it acceptable here.

 

I know a lot of people who act the same regardless of whether it's written word or face to face. I have learned to appreciate it a great deal.

Well, I'm sure you do appreciate it. I get a kick out of all the tough guy talk around here (and elsewhere on the internet of course). There's no way folks are so tough in real life, they'd run into each other and immediately come to blows, thinning their ranks in no time.

 

I'll admit I act differently online. Sometimes I'm more considerate, sometimes less. If someone's being a real freakin' blowhard, I'm way more likely to call them on it online than in a bar, for reasons that should be obvious.

 

Anyway, I just don't buy the congruence of sales thread and con table as much as you do. But as I say, I still have no problem accepting that not dissing a seller's price is how we do things here.

[Dr_Neff]

 

Never did mention anything on these Boards about raising money for your trip until somebody questioned you after seeing it on Ebay.

 

Even if you did obtain all the necessary IRS recognition, I would have a big problem donating anything to an "organization" that sells posters depicting child pornography.

 

:

 

Yes the all the intentions were clearly spelled out in the initial post

 

I do not sell on eBay. I do not have a comics4kids seller account on eBay. I cannot control what sponsors sell online. If there were any question for legality of items report them to eBay if you have questions/concerns. I have email comics4kids@aim.com for any questions

Edited February 1, 2012 by Dr_Neff

[comix4fun]

 

Never did mention anything on these Boards about raising money for your trip until somebody questioned you after seeing it on Ebay.

 

Even if you did obtain all the necessary IRS recognition, I would have a big problem donating anything to an "organization" that sells posters depicting child pornography.

 

:

 

Yes the all the intentions were clearly spelled out in the initial post

 

 

 

I have to ask this seriously, is this all a joke?

 

I ask because you have contradicted yourself so many times in the last few weeks that this either has to be a joke or you just simply can't remember what you've already said.

 

Either way, you can't expect anyone to buy this.

 

The intentions were NOT spelled out in the original thread (since deleted) where you were fundraising, ostensibly, for C4K. No one there understood what was going on. There was no mention of where the cash was going and that it was covering your trip to NO.

 

It wasn't until people started questioning you that a link to the ebay auctions were posted and in them we saw no mention of the money going to charity, and only a mention of "gotta get to NO".

 

 

I do not sell on eBay. I do not have a comics4kids seller account on eBay. I cannot control what sponsors sell online. If there were any question for legality of items report them to eBay if you have questions/concerns. I have email comics4kids@aim.com for any questions

 

 

You don't? Really?

 

Because the Heidi Spidey Ebay Account lists YOU as the seller of all items on that page.

 

Additionally this is what you find on the "About Me" page:

 

Selling your comics? Been listing too long on eBay or Craigslist?

 

I Buy comics, I Give away comics (Comics4Kids, Inc.)

 

I Appraise Comics ( Emerald City Appraisals )

 

I can assist you with a plan to sell your books if I don't buy them.

 

I also suggest comics investment candidates and reading lists for interested parties.

 

Tutorials for selling your comics in multiple venues.

 

Appraisals

 

Authentication

 

Archival Solutions

 

Corroboration

 

Information

 

Restoration detection

 

Pre and Pro Screening for CGC/PGX encapsulation candidates

 

FIND OUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE YOUR GRADES!

 

FREE email consultation

 

email comicdarling@aim.com please put "appraisal" in the subject line: If you would like to talk all things comics or are interested in my services

 

contact Dr. Moore at Emerald City Appraisals(206) 327-7436

 

check out what motivates me at : http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=4028&si=124

 

Consultant, Sotheby's Auction

 

Consultant, Ixtlan Entertainment

 

Author, Freedom Fighter Adventure Series 1,2,3

 

Author, Tacoma News Tribune

 

Author, Tacoma Reporter

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Price Guide

 

Advisor, Overstreet's "Fan"

 

Advisor, Overstreet's "Comic Book Monthly"

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Marketplace

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Grading Guide, 2nd Edition

 

Quality Control Specialist, Comics Guaranty, LLC ( CGC )

 

Comics Buyer's Guide #'s 1540,1561,1564,1609

 

Diamond Dialogue January 2004 "Star Collector"

 

So this isn't you? Really?

 

Are you really a Doctor or do you just play one online?

 

It's obviously false that this isn't your Ebay presence. How stupid do you think people are on this forum?

 

 

 

Next up...you can't control what "sponsors" sell online? Heidi Spidey is just a "sponsor"

 

Even though it's clear this is where you sell all your items and the "about me" is ALL ABOUT YOU, and that when you click on the hotlink under any of the scans of the books at the top of that page it takes you to YOUR myspace page, let's take a look at that claim that it's a "sponsor's" doing, and you have no control.

 

 

Heidi Spidey is a "sponsor" now? totally out of your control? Has nothing to do with you other than being a "sponsor"?

She's not your girlfriend/fiance/significant other?

 

That's not what your MySpace page says.

 

 

What happened to your argument that the Traci Lords Porno posters were ART, like MAPLETHORPE? You defended selling them as a work of artwork. Did you give up on that and just decided to deny ?

 

What happened to the "thanks" you posted to the boards for giving those auctions so many hits?

 

Amazing that you are STILL glossing over that you think you are running a charitable organization for kids and have no qualms at all about selling porno posters right next to auctions supposedly to help kids.

 

Also, you never answered Dr. Balls, or Seanfingh or anyone else questioning if you were really Black and if you aren't Black why you would claim to be here.

 

 

All those claims were made on THIS forum.....they should be answered on THIS forum.

 

 

[Park]

What comix4fun said.

 

Oh, BTW Dr. Neff being asked about IRS designation in 2006

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=79939&Number=1453704#Post1453704

 

And again in 2007

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=111408&Number=2036708#Post2036708

 

Again in 2008

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=141836&Number=2719314#Post2719314

 

Didn't search for any past that. Found this as well.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=182891&Number=3765357#Post3765357

 

Post signed as Dale and Heidi.

 

I have to assume that you are fulfilling your promise as a charity and giving books to kids but dodging questions and flat out ignoring others is not helping your cause.

 

 

[8milemax]

I would like to know if he is really that white dude in the picture or not.

 

Go here.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=25&page=1

 

Nothing! Did it get deleted

[MrBedrock]

Are you saying these are donations?

I saw Michael Carbonaro walking around the room with those books. He brought the Marvel 1. He bought the AF 15 at the show. I doubt he donated them to anyone. But I could be mistaken.

[comix4fun]

Are you saying these are donations?

I saw Michael Carbonaro walking around the room with those books. He brought the Marvel 1. He bought the AF 15 at the show. I doubt he donated them to anyone. But I could be mistaken.

 

 

 

Someone is.

 

Here's the caption he put on that photo:

 

Description: Nouvelle Orleans Comics4kids EL CAPITAN Damien Moore with latest donation I wonder who will be the lucky kid who gets these?

 

 

 

He couldn't dig any deeper any faster if he was using a backhoe.

[8milemax]

Are you saying these are donations?

I saw Michael Carbonaro walking around the room with those books. He brought the Marvel 1. He bought the AF 15 at the show. I doubt he donated them to anyone. But I could be mistaken.

 

 

 

Someone is.

 

Here's the caption he put on that photo:

 

Description: Nouvelle Orleans Comics4kids EL CAPITAN Damien Moore with latest donation I wonder who will be the lucky kid who gets these?

 

 

 

He couldn't dig any deeper any faster if he was using a backhoe.

 

Sounds to me he's a scammer, if thats the case why is CGC letting him post this ?

[Point Five]

Oh, BTW Dr. Neff being asked about IRS designation in 2006

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=79939&Number=1453704#Post1453704

 

Seeing Lighthouse school Dr. Neff on business matters made this one more than worth the click.

 

 

[Park]

I would like to know if he is really that white dude in the picture or not.

 

Go here.

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=25&page=1

 

Nothing! Did it get deleted

 

My former co workers at CGC

 

They would be able to verify but it is a safe bet that he is the white guy in the picture.

[Park]

Oh, BTW Dr. Neff being asked about IRS designation in 2006

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=79939&Number=1453704#Post1453704

 

Seeing Lighthouse school Dr. Neff on business matters made this one more than worth the click.

 

 

Old threads are kinda cool sometimes. Until you run unto yourself saying something ridiculous. Not that that has happened to me 100 times or anything.

[comicdonna]

 

Never did mention anything on these Boards about raising money for your trip until somebody questioned you after seeing it on Ebay.

 

Even if you did obtain all the necessary IRS recognition, I would have a big problem donating anything to an "organization" that sells posters depicting child pornography.

 

:

 

Yes the all the intentions were clearly spelled out in the initial post

 

 

 

I have to ask this seriously, is this all a joke?

 

I ask because you have contradicted yourself so many times in the last few weeks that this either has to be a joke or you just simply can't remember what you've already said.

 

Either way, you can't expect anyone to buy this.

 

The intentions were NOT spelled out in the original thread (since deleted) where you were fundraising, ostensibly, for C4K. No one there understood what was going on. There was no mention of where the cash was going and that it was covering your trip to NO.

 

It wasn't until people started questioning you that a link to the ebay auctions were posted and in them we saw no mention of the money going to charity, and only a mention of "gotta get to NO".

 

 

I do not sell on eBay. I do not have a comics4kids seller account on eBay. I cannot control what sponsors sell online. If there were any question for legality of items report them to eBay if you have questions/concerns. I have email comics4kids@aim.com for any questions

 

 

You don't? Really?

 

Because the Heidi Spidey Ebay Account lists YOU as the seller of all items on that page.

 

Additionally this is what you find on the "About Me" page:

 

Selling your comics? Been listing too long on eBay or Craigslist?

 

I Buy comics, I Give away comics (Comics4Kids, Inc.)

 

I Appraise Comics ( Emerald City Appraisals )

 

I can assist you with a plan to sell your books if I don't buy them.

 

I also suggest comics investment candidates and reading lists for interested parties.

 

Tutorials for selling your comics in multiple venues.

 

Appraisals

 

Authentication

 

Archival Solutions

 

Corroboration

 

Information

 

Restoration detection

 

Pre and Pro Screening for CGC/PGX encapsulation candidates

 

FIND OUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE YOUR GRADES!

 

FREE email consultation

 

email comicdarling@aim.com please put "appraisal" in the subject line: If you would like to talk all things comics or are interested in my services

 

contact Dr. Moore at Emerald City Appraisals(206) 327-7436

 

check out what motivates me at : http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=4028&si=124

 

Consultant, Sotheby's Auction

 

Consultant, Ixtlan Entertainment

 

Author, Freedom Fighter Adventure Series 1,2,3

 

Author, Tacoma News Tribune

 

Author, Tacoma Reporter

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Price Guide

 

Advisor, Overstreet's "Fan"

 

Advisor, Overstreet's "Comic Book Monthly"

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Marketplace

 

Advisor, Overstreet's Comic Book Grading Guide, 2nd Edition

 

Quality Control Specialist, Comics Guaranty, LLC ( CGC )

 

Comics Buyer's Guide #'s 1540,1561,1564,1609

 

Diamond Dialogue January 2004 "Star Collector"

 

So this isn't you? Really?

 

Are you really a Doctor or do you just play one online?

 

It's obviously false that this isn't your Ebay presence. How stupid do you think people are on this forum?

 

 

 

Next up...you can't control what "sponsors" sell online? Heidi Spidey is just a "sponsor"

 

Even though it's clear this is where you sell all your items and the "about me" is ALL ABOUT YOU, and that when you click on the hotlink under any of the scans of the books at the top of that page it takes you to YOUR myspace page, let's take a look at that claim that it's a "sponsor's" doing, and you have no control.

 

 

Heidi Spidey is a "sponsor" now? totally out of your control? Has nothing to do with you other than being a "sponsor"?

She's not your girlfriend/fiance/significant other?

 

That's not what your MySpace page says.

 

 

What happened to your argument that the Traci Lords Porno posters were ART, like MAPLETHORPE? You defended selling them as a work of artwork. Did you give up on that and just decided to deny ?

 

What happened to the "thanks" you posted to the boards for giving those auctions so many hits?

 

Amazing that you are STILL glossing over that you think you are running a charitable organization for kids and have no qualms at all about selling porno posters right next to auctions supposedly to help kids.

 

Also, you never answered Dr. Balls, or Seanfingh or anyone else questioning if you were really Black and if you aren't Black why you would claim to be here.

 

 

All those claims were made on THIS forum.....they should be answered on THIS forum.

 

[mschmidt]

For once, that popcorn icon is well deserved.