JAMES BOND: NO TIME TO DIE starring Daniel Craig (2021) 2 2

[Get Marwood & I]

On 10/8/2021 at 2:13 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

Outside of a handful of Bond films, were the 007 movies ever really that good? The main actors like Connery, Moore, etc. were great, but as far as the movies themselves, I think it was a few hits, lots of misses critically.

Of their time, for sure, and being part of my childhood there's a family orientated nostalgia tied up in the Connery and Moore ones. I like the early Moore ones especially for what they are, their charm and the time they represent. The gadgets I own in my house today make the Bond gadgets of the past look tame. But it all worked then. A bit like super heroes keeping their identities secret - possible back then. Today? No chance. 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 10/8/2021 at 12:00 PM, jaybuck43 said:

I saw it in IMAX. We had SO MANY trailers. I will agree the cinematography was beautiful. One of the things I always loved about bond films was that it was always a glorious mix of beautiful locations.

I actually thought that aspect went well in this film, but then again I've been in lock down on and off for the best part of two years so the local Sainsburys seems fairly exotic most days. 

On 10/8/2021 at 12:00 PM, jaybuck43 said:

Gene, who is a massive bond fan, cannot stand the Craig bonds and derisively refers to them as Jason Bond films because they’re more Jason Bourne than James Bond.

I get that. I remember saying that Casino Royale was great, but was it Bond? Thing is, once Bourne upped the ante a bit it was difficult for Bond not to follow. I'm not sure a Moore eyebrow raising tongue in cheek Bond would work nowadays. 

I might pop back in a while when everyone has seen it to add some more thoughts - it's difficult to talk about it without revealing what happens and spoiling it for others. 

[Bosco685]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:07 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Of their time, for sure, and being part of my childhood there's a family orientated nostalgia tied up in the Connery and Moore ones. I like the early Moore ones especially for what they are, their charm and the time they represent. The gadgets I own in my house today make the Bond gadgets of the past look tame. But it all worked then. A bit like super heroes keeping their identities secret - possible back then. Today? No chance. 

Mister Get Marwood & I, if I may further comment on your post.

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And in conclusion, I agree! 

[Gatsby77]

On 10/8/2021 at 9:13 AM, @therealsilvermane said:

Outside of a handful of Bond films, were the 007 movies ever really that good? The main actors like Connery, Moore, etc. were great, but as far as the movies themselves, I think it was a few hits, lots of misses critically.

Sure. But you can't ignore the aggregate power of 26 action films over nearly 60 years.

My favorites (and thus, votes for "good films"):

• Skyfall
• From Russia With Love
• Goldfinger
• Casino Royale
• Goldeneye
• On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Each of these were solid sky thrillers with compelling villains and minimal buffoonery of the Roger Moore era that (rightfully) inspired Austin Powers.

I also really liked both Timothy Dalton entries, but I'm not sure either qualifies as a "good film" in and of itself.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:13 PM, Bosco685 said:

And in conclusion, I agree! 

Thanks 

As I always say "Done Oz Monde, non in te Beciti Rorlas"

[Bosco685]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:20 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Thanks 

As I always say "Done Oz Monde, non in te Beciti Rorlas"

Donny Osmand did what to whom?

[jaybuck43]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:16 AM, Gatsby77 said:

Sure. But you can't ignore the aggregate power of 26 action films over nearly 60 years.

My favorites (and thus, votes for "good films"):

• Skyfall
• From Russia With Love
• Goldfinger
• Casino Royale
• Goldeneye
• On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Each of these were solid sky thrillers with compelling villains and minimal buffoonery of the Roger Moore era that (rightfully) inspired Austin Powers.

I also really liked both Timothy Dalton entries, but I'm not sure either qualifies as a "good film" in and of itself.

Ummmm did you somehow miss thunderball? It’s the only film that competes with From Russia with love for best bond film. 
 

[Bosco685]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:16 AM, Gatsby77 said:

solid sky thrillers

Excuse me for asking. What is that?

'Spy Thriller' - sorry. Figured it out. Thought you were meaning sky-high'.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Bosco685

[Gatsby77]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:30 AM, jaybuck43 said:

Ummmm did you somehow miss thunderball? It’s the only film that competes with From Russia with love for best bond film. 
 

I didn't really like Thunderball when I first saw it 30+ years ago - at least not compared to From Russia with Love or Goldfinger.

And then (see the last page) I actually liked Never Say Never Again better (the stunt motorcycle sequence, better opening sequence, better female villain portrayal).

But yes - it irks me that most people think Goldfinger's better than From Russia with Love. I don't get it.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:26 PM, Bosco685 said:

Donny Osmand did what to whom?

He wasn't in The Bay City Rollers.

Spoiler

Sorry for being stupid. I just can't help it sometimes. 

 

[chrisco37]

I liked all the Craig movies, especially Casino Royale.  Although I can't remember much about any (other than I enjoyed them) except the opening scene of one of them (the chase/battle on the crane).  Is this only currently available in the theaters or can I stream it?   If I can stream it, I'll probably check it out this weekend.   

 

[The Brain]

 

 

Sorry, No Time to Die will not be on a streaming service at the same time that the film is playing in theaters. After the film's theatrical run has ended, you'll be able to rent or buy it on digital platforms like Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. 

[▫️]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:46 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

I predicted Black Widow would save the U.S. movie theater industry. Really that the MCU would. However, the day and date streaming on Disney+ of that film really killed its numbers at the BO the following weeks (and a general disappointment in the film to be honest). But maybe ScarJo's lawsuit put a damper on Studios considering the day and date streaming plan. Maybe Black Widow, in a way, did help save the U.S. movie theater industry.

But as far as raw numbers and direct effect goes, it was the MCU's Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings that saved the U.S. movie theater industry. Because of its success, Studios were reminded that audiences still want to go to the movies. Venom v Carnage moved up two weeks because of Shang-Chi's success to its own success last weekend. The domino effect I talked about, that good feeling that the movies are truly back, is happening now because of Shang-Chi.

 You’ll hang on to anything to stay afloat. Love it.

[@therealsilvermane]

On 10/8/2021 at 12:47 PM, Oddball said:

 You’ll hang on to anything to stay afloat. Love it.

I hang on to facts, figures, and trends. My ego means nothing. Shang-Chi and the Ten Rings saved the U.S. movie theater industry. Numerous media articles, theater CEO's, theater stock figures, and box office trends say it. And it's mere commonsense to suggest that ScarJo's lawsuit made movie studios think twice about day and date streaming as a regular practice beyond the pandemic which would have killed the movie theater industry.

[jsilverjanet]

Looking at seats for this movie and seems like near me there are plenty 

[▫️]

On 10/8/2021 at 7:59 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

I hang on to facts, figures, and trends. My ego means nothing. Shang-Chi and the Ten Rings saved the U.S. movie theater industry. Numerous media articles, theater CEO's, theater stock figures, and box office trends say it. And it's mere commonsense to suggest that ScarJo's lawsuit made movie studios think twice about day and date streaming as a regular practice beyond the pandemic which would have killed the movie theater industry.

You are delusional to think that. Other movies have surpassed the total worldwide box office of Shang-Chi and yet they didn’t save the industry because they are not Marvel movies. Do you even read what you write? If any single movie can be credited, its A Quiet Place 2. I think you’re already aware of the facts regarding its box office despite how cautious everyone was still being back in May. Despite the lock down restrictions just starting to ease up.  But no, a movie that just got released saved the industry. You keep that ship afloat brother and protect your comic investments! You could also try Schwab.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Oddball

[Bosco685]

On 10/8/2021 at 12:36 PM, The Brain said:

Sorry, No Time to Die will not be on a streaming service at the same time that the film is playing in theaters. After the film's theatrical run has ended, you'll be able to rent or buy it on digital platforms like Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. 

I think Eon Productions was so committed to the theatrical experience (and the potential big bucks from that) they turned down a number of streaming deals. I think at one point Amazon was one of the options.

Not surprised at all this will be 100% theatrical worldwide.

[Icculus308win]

I’m 43, huge Bond fan, big fan of Daniel Craig. 
Saw it last night with some buddies (also Bond fans) and we were all like wtf, we waited this long for that! Tied for last place with Quantum Solace

[Bosco685]

On 10/8/2021 at 2:25 PM, Icculus308win said:

I’m 43, huge Bond fan, big fan of Daniel Craig. 
Saw it last night with some buddies (also Bond fans) and we were all like wtf, we waited this long for that! Tied for last place with Quantum Solace

Oh boy!

[Gatsby77]

On 10/8/2021 at 2:11 PM, Bosco685 said:

I think Eon Productions was so committed to the theatrical experience (and the potential big bucks from that) they turned down a number of streaming deals. I think at one point Amazon was one of the options.

Not surprised at all this will be 100% theatrical worldwide.

Yes - from what I understand, Amazon's purchase of MGM was contingent on honoring EON's demands re. the Bond franchise. Specifically, that:

• Bond films go exclusively theatrical-first in perpetuity; and
• EON retains veto power over casting.