Amazon's THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER (2022) 5 5

[Bosco685]

Our modern opinion hurdles due to excessively toxic individuals.

 

[Microchip]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:54 PM, Bosco685 said:

Our modern opinion hurdles due to excessively toxic individuals.

 

Collecting the worst reviews by random internet trolls, and calling it an article seems to the a thing these days.

[MetalPSI]

On 9/3/2022 at 2:46 AM, Bosco685 said:

I wouldn't look at it as cheating on research or cutting out discussion here.

It is more about research they share, or logical hints of things to come. Especially with those two YouTube accounts.

Do they ask you to like and subscribe?

[BuscemasAvengers]

Could the 'Stranger' be Bombadil? The writers could have taken liberty with his origin (which is unknown). In the canon, he is said to be very, very old, seemingly around even before the arrival of the Valar.

[Bosco685]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:55 AM, The Meta said:

Do they ask you to like and subscribe?

Check and see

[Bosco685]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:47 AM, Microchip said:

Collecting the worst reviews by random internet trolls, and calling it an article seems to the a thing these days.

Unfortunately not when for weeks there have been social media posts how THIS IS NOT MY LORD OF THE RINGS so probably based on what they have seen from other productions like Captain Marvel or Star Wars movies they were getting on this in advance.

Sure, there will be realistic negatives that get cut out. But meanwhile Disney did the same thing in putting pressure on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb to eliminate much of the negative ratings assuming all of the 10's and 'BEST EVER' were real ratings. So somehow these aggregation sites need to get better at scrubbing out the top and bottom outliers. Not just eliminate the negatives.

[MetalPSI]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:17 AM, Bosco685 said:

Check and see

 

[shadroch]

On 9/3/2022 at 2:47 AM, Key Largo Comics said:

The Silmarillion is the book he wrote that basically covers everything from the beginning of time up to the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings including what is being adapted in the Rings of Power.

Boy it's a tough read though. I've never gotten through it start to finish. Just kind of used it as a reference.

The trick to reading The Silmarillion is to start the book in the middle. It is in two parts. The first part is the creation story and is a very difficult read that most casual readers don't need to have read for the rest to make sense.  It's akin to the Christian myths of Lucifer being Gods right hand man, getting too big for his britches and being cast out of heaven. 

The second part is much more similar to LOTRs, only told by a narrator.   Many of the tales told in the second part of the book have been expanded on by Tolkiens son in several books.  It tells of the near perfect life the High Elves lived and the deceit of Morgath, their thousands of years of war, attempting to recover the stolen Silmarrion, Morgaths success in their war , the desperate journey to seek help, and the coming of the higher powers who overthrew Morgath but who overlooked some of his servants. Sauron was one of them.

I highly recommend the second part of the Silmarillion, and this seems to be the basis for the Amazon series.

[fastballspecial]

On 9/3/2022 at 4:47 AM, Key Largo Comics said:

The Silmarillion is the book he wrote that basically covers everything from the beginning of time up to the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings including what is being adapted in the Rings of Power.

Boy it's a tough read though. I've never gotten through it start to finish. Just kind of used it as a reference.

Thank u I remember that book it's tough I agree

[kimik]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:01 AM, BuscemasAvengers said:

Could the 'Stranger' be Bombadil? The writers could have taken liberty with his origin (which is unknown). In the canon, he is said to be very, very old, seemingly around even before the arrival of the Valar.

Good call. I had totally forgotten about him. He seems like a fit as well so far.

[Bosco685]

[The Commissioner]

Amazon provided a map of Middle-Earth in the 2nd age for your viewing pleasure

 

[The Commissioner]

[The Commissioner]

On 9/2/2022 at 9:29 PM, fastballspecial said:

Okay now this is where I need some help from Tolkien experts. 
So I read all the LOTR books and man were they tough from a language point of view. 

How much did he write about before the Ring of Power? Can I find books on those as 
well?
 

A lot of this is pulled from the Appendices of LOTR, The Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales

[The Commissioner]

On 9/2/2022 at 6:23 PM, kimik said:

I never read the Silmarillion or other "historical" tales, are there wizards that appear before Saruman/Gandalf?

Some are speculating he is Sauron - that seems too easy of a play to me.

The wizards and Maiar (lesser angels) and they were sent to Middle-Earth to fight the evil that was emerging there. 

Not all Maiar are wizards though. Sauron is a Maiar, as well as the Balrog from The Fellowship of the Ring (the Balrogs are Maiar that became cloaked in fire and shadow when they followed Morgoth)

So technically, Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and the Balrogs are all the same species but taking different forms while in Middle-Earth. 

[The Commissioner]

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

[kimik]

On 9/3/2022 at 5:06 PM, The Commissioner said:

The wizards and Maiar (lesser angels) and they were sent to Middle-Earth to fight the evil that was emerging there. 

Not all Maiar are wizards though. Sauron is a Maiar, as well as the Balrog from The Fellowship of the Ring (the Balrogs are Maiar that became cloaked in fire and shadow when they followed Morgoth)

So technically, Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and the Balrogs are all the same species but taking different forms while in Middle-Earth. 

Thank you. 

So are you leaning towards this being Gandalf?

 

[Microchip]

On 9/4/2022 at 9:12 AM, kimik said:

Thank you. 

So are you leaning towards this being Gandalf?

 

Would they throw that big a chestnut in so early?

And he's not required, there are more powerful Elves still floating around ME at this time... well there was until they just sailed off.   Ok, I need to go read the books again 

[chrisco37]

Just finished Episode 2.  It was great.  Really enjoying this so far.  
I’ve never read any of the books and have only watched the LOTR trilogy.  

[The Commissioner]

On 9/3/2022 at 6:12 PM, kimik said:

Thank you. 

So are you leaning towards this being Gandalf?

 

I honestly have no idea. I can see arguments for it being Gandalf (he also went by Olorin during the 2nd age of Middle-Earth), but it could also be an original character that Amazon created for the show.