MAY1979 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) On 3/14/2024 at 6:58 AM, GM8 said: Three new books for sale on Heritage. 9.8 - this one last sold for $250K at Comic Connect on 10/13/21 by my records. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7369-91027.s?type=wantlistid-1008803!creatorid-cewl!linkclicked-lotlink!emailid-03142024-023004.186AM-3119817-1008803!itemid-7369_117004!wlem My WAG prediction $129K+Heritages Vig , approx 154K Total. On 3/14/2024 at 6:58 AM, GM8 said: 9.6 (maybe you can buy this one on the cheap, press and re-submit to CGC? Maybe it's already been done?) https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7369-91180.s?type=wantlistid-1008803!creatorid-cewl!linkclicked-lotlink!emailid-03142024-023004.186AM-3119817-1008803!itemid-7369_101013!wlem I'm seeing some color rubbing and loss. Weak-ish 9.6 IMHO. Edited March 14 by MAR1979 GM8 and pubmonkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 A couple more high-grade TMNT #1 sales ended yesterday at CC. Most notable was this $120K sale of a 9.8 SS with Kevin Eastman's signature from 2022 No buyer's premium was noted, so this is a 12K or 9% drop from the previous blue label sale on 1/11/24. There are very few yellow label 9.8's so I compare to the last blue label. This copy is new to my database so it was likely sitting in someone's collection for a while looking nice and new. I have to be honest, I wouldn't have gotten his signature on such a pristine book! It was either daring by the owner or could have been a 5-digit loss had KE accidentally done anything to the book! https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1036280#description This 9.0 sold for $20,367 (including 15% buyer's premium), which is a $2K or 11% increase from the previous sale last year of another blue label on 4/1/23 for $18K. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/946585 pubmonkey and Hulksdaddy1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/21/2024 at 7:32 AM, GM8 said: A couple more high-grade TMNT #1 sales ended yesterday at CC. Most notable was this $120K sale of a 9.8 SS with Kevin Eastman's signature from 2022 No buyer's premium was noted, so this is a 12K or 9% drop from the previous blue label sale on 1/11/24. There are very few yellow label 9.8's so I compare to the last blue label. This copy is new to my database so it was likely sitting in someone's collection for a while looking nice and new. I have to be honest, I wouldn't have gotten his signature on such a pristine book! It was either daring by the owner or could have been a 5-digit loss had KE accidentally done anything to the book! https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1036280#description This 9.0 sold for $20,367 (including 15% buyer's premium), which is a $2K or 11% increase from the previous sale last year of another blue label on 4/1/23 for $18K. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/946585 Terrible sig placement on that 9.8. Should only ever be signed in the black. GM8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderturtle Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/21/2024 at 4:32 AM, GM8 said: A couple more high-grade TMNT #1 sales ended yesterday at CC. Most notable was this $120K sale of a 9.8 SS with Kevin Eastman's signature from 2022 No buyer's premium was noted, so this is a 12K or 9% drop from the previous blue label sale on 1/11/24. There are very few yellow label 9.8's so I compare to the last blue label. This copy is new to my database so it was likely sitting in someone's collection for a while looking nice and new. I have to be honest, I wouldn't have gotten his signature on such a pristine book! It was either daring by the owner or could have been a 5-digit loss had KE accidentally done anything to the book! https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1036280#description This 9.0 sold for $20,367 (including 15% buyer's premium), which is a $2K or 11% increase from the previous sale last year of another blue label on 4/1/23 for $18K. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/946585 They should just list the final price for the buyer as $20,367 GM8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) A 9.8 just ended on Heritage Live auction for $105,000 ($126,000 with Buyers Premium). That is $6,000 less than the one that went for $132,000 back on January 11th. Edited April 4 by BeardedBubba GM8 and ADAMANTIUM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 2:14 PM, BeardedBubba said: A 9.8 just ended on Heritage Live auction for $105,000 ($126,000 with Buyers Premium). That is $6,000 less than the one that went for $132,000 back on January 11th. Still a great price. Way more than 2019. I ignore pricing during the Blip. BeardedBubba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 2:27 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said: Still a great price. Way more than 2019. I ignore pricing during the Blip. Yeah it's hard to complain about the price being 6 figures. There's a 9.6, 9.4, and 9.2 SS ending later. I'm very curious about those. Hulksdaddy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 So what’s the deal with Heritage? I feel like their TMNT auctions have been going low and screwing up the FMV. A 9.0 just sold on ComicConnect for $20k. A 9.2 signature series finished at $16,800 on Heritage today and that includes the 20% premium. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 6:32 PM, BeardedBubba said: So what’s the deal with Heritage? I feel like their TMNT auctions have been going low and screwing up the FMV. A 9.0 just sold on ComicConnect for $20k. A 9.2 signature series finished at $16,800 on Heritage today and that includes the 20% premium. What do you all think? From my experience, Heritage has never been a good place to sell TMNT. Not sure why, but their outcomes always seem low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 6:36 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said: From my experience, Heritage has never been a good place to sell TMNT. Not sure why, but their outcomes always seem low. Interesting. I’ve never noticed before. So maybe a good place to buy then even with the buyers premium. I’ve been trying to sell my 9.2 to downgrade since I don’t need a copy that high. But the last two 9.2s sold on Heritage have kind of tanked the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 6:56 PM, BeardedBubba said: Interesting. I’ve never noticed before. So maybe a good place to buy then even with the buyers premium. I’ve been trying to sell my 9.2 to downgrade since I don’t need a copy that high. But the last two 9.2s sold on Heritage have kind of tanked the price. Comicconnect seems to do well with them. BeardedBubba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybuck43 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 7:07 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said: Comicconnect seems to do well with them. Comicconnect and comic link always seem to do better with copper than heritage. I think the people watching heritage are more golden and silver age (this auction in particular) then bronze and copper. BeardedBubba, october and Hulksdaddy1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/4/2024 at 6:32 PM, BeardedBubba said: So what’s the deal with Heritage? I feel like their TMNT auctions have been going low and screwing up the FMV. A 9.0 just sold on ComicConnect for $20k. A 9.2 signature series finished at $16,800 on Heritage today and that includes the 20% premium. What do you all think? The last sale I have was 3/20/24 at Comic Connect for $120,000 which would mean this most recent 4/4/24 sale of the 9.8 for $126K was a 5% increase. For the 9.4, the last sale I have was on 11/19/23 at Heritage also for $22.2K (OW/W pages), which translates to a 8% bump from the most recent sale of $24K above. Although you could argue W pages is probably worth the difference. For the 9.6, my most recent sale was also 11/19/23 (also Heritage) for $38.4K, which would translate to a decline in our most recent sale of $37.2 of 3.1%. Prices seem to be stabilizing with these small movements percentage-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/4/2024 at 6:36 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said: From my experience, Heritage has never been a good place to sell TMNT. Not sure why, but their outcomes always seem low. My view on it was the opposite, Heritage seemed to get a premium on the real top-tier books. My opinion changed when I sold my 9.6 there and it sold for $22K less than a book that hammered 2 weeks later at Comic Connect! In looking back at 9.8's only, the price fluctuates at both sites. I can't see a clear advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 4/9/2024 at 5:54 PM, GM8 said: My view on it was the opposite, Heritage seemed to get a premium on the real top-tier books. My opinion changed when I sold my 9.6 there and it sold for $22K less than a book that hammered 2 weeks later at Comic Connect! In looking back at 9.8's only, the price fluctuates at both sites. I can't see a clear advantage. 9.8s seem to be in the low $100k area no matter the site. But the grades lower than that seem to vary depending on where they're being auctioned. Heritage just doesn't seem like a good place to send a high grade TMNT #1 that isn't a 9.8. Prices are down from the pandemic pump but Heritage prices seem to be dragging them even lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderturtle Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) On 4/4/2024 at 3:32 PM, BeardedBubba said: So what’s the deal with Heritage? I feel like their TMNT auctions have been going low and screwing up the FMV. A 9.0 just sold on ComicConnect for $20k. A 9.2 signature series finished at $16,800 on Heritage today and that includes the 20% premium. What do you all think? https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTURTLES%2B1%26ItemType%3DCB%26CGC%3D%26sig%3D%23Item_1773783&id=1773783&itemType=0 A blue 9.2 ended at $17,250 on comiclink Edited May 30 by Spiderturtle BeardedBubba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedBubba Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 On 5/30/2024 at 1:04 PM, Spiderturtle said: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTURTLES%2B1%26ItemType%3DCB%26CGC%3D%26sig%3D%23Item_1773783&id=1773783&itemType=0 A blue 9.2 ended at $17,250 on comiclink I was watching that one closely. I have a 9.2 and I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that's a new post covid low for a blue 9.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14roller Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Looked years ago but didn’t pull the trigger. Hope to land a 8.0-9.2 this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksdaddy1 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Today's Heritage results for 1st Prints 9.8 and 9.6... Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14roller Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 On 6/20/2024 at 9:00 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said: Today's Heritage results for 1st Prints 9.8 and 9.6... Yikes. The 9.6 didn’t surprise me and was close to the April sale. Don’t know what the heck happened with the 9.8 though, that was a huge drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...