Chief1332 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 A few of the original buyers of the Promise books could certainly be called winners. It was exciting to see them sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 5:49 AM, Motor City Rob said: Congrats on the bump! Did you need to leave it in the holder when submitting to CCS so it could retain the Pedigree? Not a "certified" bump since it was brought from HA as a raw graded copy back in December with a COA as per my post just above yours. Sonic77 and ThothAmon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) More hijinks going on . . . Here is the Cap 5 as sold originally Edited April 24, 2023 by GreatCaesarsGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 And here it is now, as listed in one of the current auctions I really wanna know how the gunk on the back cover disappeared ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 5:43 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: And here it is now, as listed in one of the current auctions I really wanna know how the gunk on the back cover disappeared On 4/24/2023 at 5:43 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: And here it is now, as listed in one of the current auctions I really wanna know how the gunk on the back cover disappeared There’s no way that was removed by dry cleaning. That’s restoration. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 7:02 PM, bronze johnny said: There’s no way that was removed by dry cleaning. Without seeing it in person, I don't how you could possibly say that. BS Damutantman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 8:29 AM, tth2 said: Without seeing it in person, I don't how you could possibly say that. True. Sometimes this stuff just rubs right off. But this does look more like it would have taken some extra measures, and it would be enough of a concern for me to want to steer clear of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) On 4/24/2023 at 7:02 AM, bronze johnny said: There’s no way that was removed by dry cleaning. That’s m Edited April 24, 2023 by bronze johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 10:29 AM, tth2 said: Without seeing it in person, I don't how you could possibly say that. So can you tell me how that’s removed without say using peroxide or some other cleaner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 9:37 AM, bronze johnny said: So can you tell me how that’s removed without say using peroxide or some other cleaner? If it's surface dirt you can just wipe/rub/scrape it off with a variety of tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 12:14 PM, buttock said: If it's surface dirt you can just wipe/rub/scrape it off with a variety of tools. Yep, but that’s not surface dirt and agree with your point about staying away from that book. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 12:14 PM, buttock said: If it's surface dirt you can just wipe/rub/scrape it off with a variety of tools. bronze johnny, tth2, ThothAmon and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 11:11 AM, bronze johnny said: Yep, but that’s not surface dirt and agree with your point about staying away from that book. You'd be surprised. I think tth2 has a point that you can't say with certainty. But I'm siding with you that it probably was treated with something more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 1:58 PM, buttock said: You'd be surprised. I think tth2 has a point that you can't say with certainty. But I'm siding with you that it probably was treated with something more. Thanks. I will say with a high degree of probability that this book was restored given it “was treated with something more” than dry cleaning. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 1:11 AM, bronze johnny said: On 4/25/2023 at 12:14 AM, buttock said: If it's surface dirt you can just wipe/rub/scrape it off with a variety of tools. Yep, but that’s not surface dirt and agree with your point about staying away from that book. The point is that I don't know WHAT it is, and I wouldn't be willing to definitively say what it is or is not only on the basis of a scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 5:59 PM, tth2 said: The point is that I don't know WHAT it is, and I wouldn't be willing to definitively say what it is or is not only on the basis of a scan. And MY point is that I say it’s restored based on my view of the scan. You’re welcome to draw your own conclusions as I am mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) On 4/24/2023 at 2:22 PM, bronze johnny said: On 4/24/2023 at 10:58 AM, buttock said: You'd be surprised. I think tth2 has a point that you can't say with certainty. But I'm siding with you that it probably was treated with something more. Thanks. I will say with a high degree of probability that this book was restored given it “was treated with something more” than dry cleaning. Well, looks like this very topic is being talked about rather vigrorously in this thread here from the Grading and Restorations Forum: Skimmed through part of this thread here and besides UV blue light, did noticed that some boardies had mentioned this product here: Absorene is the original dry cleaner that works like an eraser, by drawing dust and dirt from surfaces. Used by museum curators, archival restoration experts, and libraries to clean old manuscripts, prints, oil paintings, books, papers and tapestries. Edited April 25, 2023 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) On 4/24/2023 at 2:43 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: And here it is now, as listed in one of the current auctions For the lazy ones like me when it comes to searching, would you have a link handy for this upgraded CGC 6.5 Promise copy of Cap 5? Edited April 25, 2023 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 11:06 PM, lou_fine said: Well, looks like this very topic is being talked about rather vigrorously in this thread here from the Grading and Restorations Forum: Skimmed through part of this thread here and besides UV blue light, did noticed that some boardies had mentioned this product here: Absorene is the original dry cleaner that works like an eraser, by drawing dust and dirt from surfaces. Used by museum curators, archival restoration experts, and libraries to clean old manuscripts, prints, oil paintings, books, papers and tapestries. Just to be clear before one of our eager beavers makes a slight error in judgment, ...this may look similar, but is not the same thing)... batman_fan and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 11:16 PM, lou_fine said: For the lazy ones like me when it comes to searching, would you have a link handy for this upgraded CGC 6.5 Promise copy of Cap 5? The auction ended last night, and since it was Clink, the link went “poof”. It hammered for $12,450 or thereabouts lou_fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
