tth2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 11:28 PM, Ryan. said: Woah, hold your horses. Don't you know we here on the boards are market crash enthusiasts and don't take kindly to such optimistic jive talk? Hey, c'mon, don't harsh my Schadenfreude! Randall Dowling and Ryan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareHighGrade Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 7:22 AM, tth2 said: I think the Promise winners received certificates from Heritage promising them (no pun intended) a 10% net fee if they resold on Heritage. Even with this discount, when you take into account a 10% auction house fee, the average economic loss is 30% in less than two years. Ouch. tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 2:59 PM, szav said: Maybe the same person bought both. Maybe someone's trying to build a set of V-shaped comic books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post october Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 9:28 AM, tth2 said: Andy, that's a VERY glass half full view. I saw Kerry Drake issues bringing four figures. Nyoka cleared $4000. Joe Palookas brought $2000. Paying those prices for those books at that time was the comic equivalent of huffing airplane glue from a sandwich bag while throwing stacks of cash into an incinerator. The fact that the drops aren't ~90% is impressive. jimbo_7071, Bronty, gregreece and 9 others 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 11:30 AM, jimbo_7071 said: I'd still call it high. Talk to some teenagers and ask them if they are familiar with Mighty Mouse. I grew up with Mighty Mouse—I had a "Mighty Mouse saves Dinky Duck" record that I used to listen to—but that character is no longer important. Pop-culture status is inexorably ephemeral. its a 9.6 of a tough first appearance... if it was an 8.0 I'd agree. 9.6 is 450k for Riddler grade. Edited March 31, 2023 by Bronty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 1:31 PM, Bronty said: its a 9.6 of a tough first appearance... if it was an 8.0 I'd agree. 9.6 is 450k for Riddler grade. Except for the fact that the 9.6 Riddler has been confirmed to be no longer $450K worthy as the buyer/consignor must have found out yesterday, although I rather suspect they probably knew right after hitting that $456K bid button back in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adamstrange Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 4:09 PM, october said: huffing airplane glue from a sandwich bag while throwing stacks of cash into an incinerator. You swore the camera was turned off tth2, Larryw7, Point Five and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 4:08 PM, adamstrange said: You swore the camera was turned off Your true form finally revealed! Larryw7, adamstrange and Point Five 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 7:25 AM, tth2 said: On 3/31/2023 at 4:20 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Well done, Masterchief. Some of those price drop-offs are stunning That is some seriously horrific reading. Since the hope for successful flipping of comic books in today's certified marketplace is really highly dependent on the successful playing of the CPR game, the column that I find most interesting is the "New Grade" column. Especially in the fact that out of 116 Promise retreads to date so far, there have been very few attempts to play this game with the Promise books save for Ritter, as we have just seen two successful upgrades along with the one failed downgrade. What I find ironic and rather funny though is that the one single downgrade (i.e. Detective 39 going from CGC 4.5 down to CGC 4.0) is also the book with by far the highest percentage gain at a whopping positive 81% when it jumped from its initial sale price of $4,320 back in September of 2021 to its second round sale price of $7,800 on March 1 of 2023. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 3:00 PM, szav said: That one benefited from the very bold and apparently convincing “it looks better with the cover detached” ad campaign. Well, it should then be clear that Ritter's words has a much higher level of integrity in the marketplace as compared to CGC's grading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 11:59 AM, szav said: How did a cut that bad slip buy? Are the Promise books now stigmatized with people in the know if not the general buying public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 4/1/2023 at 4:09 AM, october said: huffing airplane glue from a sandwich bag while throwing stacks of cash into an incinerator Good times! goldust40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 6:53 PM, The Black Hand ® said: How did a cut that bad slip buy? Are the Promise books now stigmatized with people in the know if not the general buying public? That one isn't a Promise book, but this one is. I don't know if stigmatized is the right word, but they're not commanding the multiples that they were before. They're still selling for strong prices relative to the grades, so most buyers either don't have much awareness of the soft grading on many of the books or they can live with the soft grading in order to own pedigree books with nice cover inks. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 The new and improved Tec 33 https://www.wwcomics.com/comicdetail.asp?Product_ID=Detective_33_33349 Primetime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_rotation Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 The CC buyer of the Tough Kid Squad #1 Promise book is ambitious, I'll say that much. Originally sold for $2,280, resold on CC for $1,845, listed on eBay for $3,450. I think the top-quality photos will help the sale. mjoeyoung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Anybody see the Blue Beetle 44 7.0 that sold for $1,000. On the bay this week? I think it is the first Promise book I have noticed there. I have no idea what it originally sold for. I wouldn’t have paid $1K for it Promise or not. Just interesting to see them being retreaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) On 4/6/2023 at 4:47 AM, Robot Man said: Anybody see the Blue Beetle 44 7.0 that sold for $1,000. On the bay this week? I think it is the first Promise book I have noticed there. I have no idea what it originally sold for. I wouldn’t have paid $1K for it Promise or not. Just interesting to see them being retreaded. That eBay book is a counterfeit. It's not the Promise copy. Just a cursory comparison of the two covers is a dead giveaway. eBay: Blue beetle #44 CGC 7.0 from the Promise collection! Rare Find!!! Heritage Auction #122213: Blue Beetle #44 The Promise Collection Pedigree (Fox Features Syndicate, 1946) Condition: VG+ Edited April 6, 2023 by MasterChief links added Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 12:23 PM, MasterChief said: That eBay book is a counterfeit. It's not the Promise copy. Just a cursory comparison of the two covers is a dead giveaway. Heritage Auction #122213: Blue Beetle #44 The Promise Collection Pedigree (Fox Features Syndicate, 1946) Condition: VG+ Absolutely not the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 10:23 AM, MasterChief said: That eBay book is a counterfeit. It's not the Promise copy. Just a cursory comparison of the two covers is a dead giveaway. eBay: Blue beetle #44 CGC 7.0 from the Promise collection! Rare Find!!! Heritage Auction #122213: Blue Beetle #44 The Promise Collection Pedigree (Fox Features Syndicate, 1946) Condition: VG+ Lordy! That suks! Getting to the point where you have to be VERY careful in one’s purchases… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 11:23 AM, MasterChief said: That eBay book is a counterfeit. It's not the Promise copy. Just a cursory comparison of the two covers is a dead giveaway. eBay: Blue beetle #44 CGC 7.0 from the Promise collection! Rare Find!!! Heritage Auction #122213: Blue Beetle #44 The Promise Collection Pedigree (Fox Features Syndicate, 1946) Condition: VG+ @CGC Mike@mnelsonCGC MasterChief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
