tth2 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 1:46 AM, mlansdown said: I like them! Just added this one to my collection a few months ago: Beautiful book! I started collecting Lone Rangers because they had some of the best covers I'd seen, and were amazingly cheap thanks to the Western Discount. jimjum12, mlansdown and 50YrsCollctngCmcs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50YrsCollctngCmcs Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 12:10 PM, tth2 said: Beautiful book! I started collecting Lone Rangers because they had some of the best covers I'd seen, and were amazingly cheap thanks to the Western Discount. I’ve picked up Red Ryders for the same reason! mlansdown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 8:47 PM, 50YrsCollctngCmcs said: I’ve picked up Red Ryders for the same reason! I would add in Tomahawk and Straight Arrow. Fred Meagher’s art on the latter is superb. jimjum12 and buttock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 8:50 AM, Robot Man said: I would add in Tomahawk and Straight Arrow. Fred Meagher’s art on the latter is superb. All American Western with Toth. Later Western Comics with Kane covers, Infantino interiors. Prize Western with Severin/Elder covers. Tons of gems in the Atlas line from Heath, Maneeley, etc. Lotsa great stuff out there. @Steppenwolfscomics has been posting some really great westerns lately. Robot Man, Steppenwolfscomics and mlansdown 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 11:52 PM, buttock said: All American Western with Toth. Not cheap in NM. I've been blown out of the water every time NM copies have come up for auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 11:52 PM, buttock said: Prize Western with Severin/Elder covers. Also Fargo Kid with Severin covers. Bought for a puny $113 in 2009 and sold for a mere $216 in 2022. adamstrange, batman_fan and buttock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buttock Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 7:56 PM, tth2 said: Not cheap in NM. I've been blown out of the water every time NM copies have come up for auction. There's only 18 certified at 9.4 or better in the entire run, so given the demand I wouldn't expect them to go cheap. drbanner, batman_fan, BS Damutantman and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BS Damutantman Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 The Promise All-Americans are really sharp copies. I was happy to overpay for a few of them. I got this copy of 118 raw before the pandemic pricing really started to sink in. Thanks to Joey's expertise, it also ended up with a nice bump from Heritage's original 6.0 estimate. Point Five, buttock, Frisco Larson and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adamstrange Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 9:56 PM, tth2 said: Not cheap in NM. I've been blown out of the water every time NM copies have come up for auction. Putting a set of Church copies together? Super easy. Barely an inconvenience. Dr. Love, bc, Point Five and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/23/2023 at 7:39 AM, adamstrange said: On 11/22/2023 at 10:56 AM, tth2 said: Not cheap in NM. I've been blown out of the water every time NM copies have come up for auction. Putting a set of Church copies together? Super easy. Barely an inconvenience. AJD, Point Five and buttock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted November 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) On 11/17/2023 at 2:57 AM, DanCooper said: On 11/16/2023 at 3:45 PM, tth2 said: Batman #37 sold for $48,000. Previously sold for $87,000! Detective #146 sold for $10,200. Previously sold for $19,200! I guess these cross the $1 million LOSS threshold for the Promise Collection resales. Don't know if MasterChief's Promise tracking has been updated recently, but this was the list from September: Yup...I’m still tracking Promise resales. Update should be out after the holiday. That said, asset liquidation has been mixed from a genre perspective over the last two months. Overall, sales continue in the downward trend. Remarkably, the time horizon on holding Promises has been relatively short so far. Take for example the Detective #146 mentioned. That book has resold twice since initial offering. Perhaps it has now reached a realistic FMV... Edited November 23, 2023 by MasterChief image work DanCooper, GreatCaesarsGhost, tth2 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 10:29 PM, MasterChief said: Yup...I’m still tracking Promise resales. Update should be out after the holiday. That said, asset liquidation has been mixed from a genre perspective over the last two months. Overall, sales continue in the downward trend. Remarkably, the time horizon on holding Promises has been relatively short so far. Take for example the Detective #146 mentioned. That book has resold twice since initial offering. Perhaps it has now reached a realistic FMV... Really looking forward to this! Your analysis provides the most accurate assessment of the Promise Collection sales history, but also which titles have been least and most affected by market fluctuations. MasterChief, we may have to wait awhile longer till your promotion gets through Congress, but you've earned our DOW Jones command! MasterChief and GreatCaesarsGhost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Based on results of a just-completed auction, resellers of Promise books on Comiclink aren't having any better success than those reselling on Heritage. waaaghboss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 9:05 AM, tth2 said: Based on results of a just-completed auction, resellers of Promise books on Comiclink aren't having any better success than those reselling on Heritage. Maybe Heritage felt a twinge of guilt and that’s why they gave us certificates waiving sellers commissions when we go to resell them. otherwise, we are just getting posterized when we decide it’s time to let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 12:40 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Maybe Heritage felt a twinge of guilt and that’s why they gave us certificates waiving sellers commissions when we go to resell them. otherwise, we are just getting posterized when we decide it’s time to let go They don't much care if you get posterized, and neither does comiclink. The resale certificate is just a way to encourage re-consignments of valuable books so they make their cut again on the next guy, and why shouldn't they? If a house is going to handle the resale, why not them? The whole Make an Offer platform is built around a similar idea. Buyer 1 has material Buyer 2 now wants. Drop the HA fees to 10% and use your website to facilitate the re-sale of a valuable book. GreatCaesarsGhost and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Update! With the close of November, this update reflects over $1M in losses since the initial offering of the Promises Collection over two and a half years ago. While there has been sporadic gains here and there with minimal returns, the month of November recorded the highest overall loss as of yet this year with a -37% downturn driven largely by the liquidation of Batman #37 CGC 9.6 and Detective Comics #118 CGC 9.8. Note: Included in this update is a new chart reflecting the grades of Promises resold. Data sorted oldest to newest Sale Date. (Source: Heritage Auctions (HA), Comic Connect (CC), ComicLink (CL), eBay) Edited December 2, 2023 by MasterChief image work, typo drbanner, Tri-Color Brian, Treco and 13 others 6 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrBedrock Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 9:39 PM, buttock said: There's only 18 certified at 9.4 or better in the entire run, so given the demand I wouldn't expect them to go cheap. buttock, greggy, Mmehdy and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 The Promise CGC 9.4 Action #136 in the current Heritage Signature Auction was previously sold as a CGC 9.2 in the April 2022 Signature Auction, so Promise books do get upgraded occasionally. It sold for $3,120 previously, so it'll be interesting to see if it still loses money this time around despite the upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 A couple more coming up in the Comiclink February auction including a top census All Select copy. tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I am surprised by the ones that actually went up in hammer price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
