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Disney's SNOW WHITE starring Rachel Zegler, Gal Gadot (2024)
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On 7/26/2023 at 10:25 AM, Dr. Love said:

Soon the original will have a cultural warning attached to it for the future viewer. It will be held up, not as a classic, but a classic example of misogyny and body mocking from a hateful bygone era.

So that's really what this is about for you.  A fearful projection of a wicked and horrid future that hasn't come to pass, isn't happening today (the original 'Seven Dwarfs' is recognized by the American Film Institute as one of the top 50 movies ever made), and is exceptionally unlikely to ever happen.

But staying in the present, really a remake is just another movie.  And the original film in question is still widely available, not edited, not held for public ridicule, and instead preserved as both a cultural phenomenon, and a window into the times in which it was made.  Much like Golden Age Superhero comics whose cultural references, concepts, and characterizations are portraits of a period in time that haven't stopped the titles or the lead characters from undergoing many evolutions through the past 80 years - for better and for worse, depending on the character, the depiction of the villains and supporting cast, and one's viewpoint.

If the remake turns out to stink, as it very well might, then it will become just another footnote in cinematic history, and not one of very much significance at all in the end.

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On 7/26/2023 at 8:25 AM, Dr. Love said:

Zegler's disdain for the source material, heard in the interview, tells you all you need to know.  Its not laziness or a con job to make some cash. Obliterating the values of the classic is the purpose of the project.

Soon the original will have a cultural warning attached to it for the future viewer. It will be held up, not as a classic, but a classic example of misogyny and body mocking from a hateful bygone era.

It’s interesting that these people can’t channel all that energy into creating a new set of characters that embody their ideals - but they have loads of energy to expend on tearing down established ones.

I just dislike the concept of reworking “classic” stories. Make a new story. If these ideals mean that much to you or they are so incredibly valid - they should, theoretically, stand on their own without the crutch of using an established franchise.

These projects really shine the light On the lack of creativity these people have,

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On 7/26/2023 at 2:23 PM, Dr. Balls said:

I just dislike the concept of reworking “classic” stories. Make a new story. If these ideals mean that much to you or they are so incredibly valid - they should, theoretically, stand on their own without the crutch of using an established franchise.

We know that they're not, which is why we know their intentions when they do this stuff, and it's so transparent that most people see through it and reject it.

We get it. We just don't get why they keep trying when it keeps failing. That will be a significant footnote in cinematic history.

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On 7/26/2023 at 12:30 PM, theCapraAegagrus said:

We know that they're not, which is why we know their intentions when they do this stuff, and it's so transparent that most people see through it and reject it.

We get it. We just don't get why they keep trying when it keeps failing. That will be a significant footnote in cinematic history.

I would definitely agree - but boy, trying to get them to see or admit that their fringe ideals don’t translate into big budget movies - that’s where the butthurt comes in.

Sure, there are indy stuff and art house films, and those a valid and great vehicles for expression. I’ll accept any story own it’s own merit and I don’t fault anyone for making a story they feel is important - when it’s an expression of their own creation, or an adaptation - creatively, I respect that. The fault comes when you try to uninterestingly shoehorn a previous idea with a “twist” into society, expecting it to be the next Star Wars and then screaming “racist!” Or “bigot!” When the box office numbers aren’t what you expected.

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On 7/26/2023 at 2:39 PM, Dr. Balls said:

I would definitely agree - but boy, trying to get them to see or admit that their fringe ideals don’t translate into big budget movies - that’s where the butthurt comes in.

Sure, there are indy stuff and art house films, and those a valid and great vehicles for expression. I’ll accept any story own it’s own merit and I don’t fault anyone for making a story they feel is important - when it’s an expression of their own creation, or an adaptation - creatively, I respect that. The fault comes when you try to uninterestingly shoehorn a previous idea with a “twist” into society, expecting it to be the next Star Wars and then screaming “racist!” Or “bigot!” When the box office numbers aren’t what you expected.

I got my friend to watch MoS and BvS, trying to get him into some of the stuff I like. He hasn't continued. I stopped 'bothering' him about it after a few weeks. He's more into anime than live-action. The studios should take this approach with repeated ideas.

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On 7/26/2023 at 2:39 PM, batmiesta said:

:censored: HELL! Please tell me this isn't actually from the film, even worse than I imagined if it is and doomed to flop. 

Ok, it isn't from the film.

Spoiler

I lied - it's from the film.

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On 7/26/2023 at 3:46 PM, Artboy99 said:

all they need to do is change the title of the film to "The New Adventures of Snow White" and then all the people triggered by the changes no longer care.

 

I don’t think anyone is triggered in this thread, more like eye rolling but you do bring up a good point. Just pretend it’s a completely different version. If they are right, they make a lot of money. If they are wrong, they can blame it on whatever they want like a lot of their other recent films. 

I did enjoy the Fables comic with Snow White and she was different for sure.

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There are also other versions I have not even heard of before.

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They could also do an modern version where she is an addict, sniffing white powder, hence her nickname on the streets could be Snow White. hm  It could be a dark and gritty recovery story.

 

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On 7/26/2023 at 3:46 PM, Artboy99 said:

all they need to do is change the title of the film to "The New Adventures of Snow White" and then all the people triggered by the changes no longer care.

 

I'm wondering, though if that title hasn't already been used by Vixen Entertainment.  :whatthe:

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On 7/31/2023 at 7:58 PM, Straw-Man said:

who is going to make some western posts here to trigger duck?  i just haven't the heart for it.

No need, he wouldn’t see it since he’s too busy posting in the western thread!

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Looks like they picked someone who was never a fan of Snow White because it scared her as a kid. Also, upon rewatch, she finds Prince Charming to be a stalker.

She also cleared up the fairest of them all confusion. It does not refer to skin tone but being the “fairest” in a just, doing the right thing, fairest. 
 

This movie is going to rock! :headbang:

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On 8/17/2023 at 11:01 AM, CAHokie said:

Looks like they picked someone who was never a fan of Snow White because it scared her as a kid. Also, upon rewatch, she finds Prince Charming to be a stalker.

She also cleared up the fairest of them all confusion. It does not refer to skin tone but being the “fairest” in a just, doing the right thing, fairest. 
 

This movie is going to rock! :headbang:

i saw that.

 

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