Andahaion Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Really only had serious interest in one page that was listed on Sunday. I hesitated for like 15 minutes to do some research and it was gone. Oh well. Of the 17 pieces I was tracking, looks like just the one sold. I did appreciate that two sellers sent emails saying they lowered the prices on a couple of the pieces I was tracking. I do look forward to this event, but this one was bereft of things on my wish list. Snaps and a twist to me for staying disciplined. Twanj and John E. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRulers Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Lots of great pieces. Lots of high prices, but I can't fault them for trying. All it takes is one buyer. One Spider-Man piece in particular made me laugh due to the exorbitant price level. I'd call it 10x what I'd value the piece, even in today's hot market. It seems as though everyone that has a Spider-Man page that features the black costume believes it to be worth a fortune because of two wildly outlier Heritage sales. silverseeker, jjonahjameson11, John E. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yeeking Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 I always enjoy this event even if I don’t make any purchases but I did notice pieces that were bought on dealer sites recently and now marked up double or triple from only 6 months ago. Twanj, Sean I, John E. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Garry Ghoul Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 it was ridiculously fun to see couple pages that I sold at the last live for $3K priced at 10K! Twanj, John E., cloud cloddie and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyflow33 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Like others have said I thought the prices were very high so I didn't buy anything. I thought the commissions were also high and my experiences with those through the event has not been great. I'm still waiting on one from the event last Fall and the event last Spring I had to get a refund because the rep stopped replying to emails and I didn't get my money back until I brought it up in the Facebook groups, (these aren't CAF's fault). John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sean I Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 It was a lot of fun searching through all of the art and getting to look over the scans. I appreciate Bill and his teams time and effort. Were the Want List notification filters and messages from sellers of saved items on price drops new this time? I didn’t remember it from before, but nice features! I got 3 pieces that I felt were fairly priced considering they were in categories you don’t see a ton in public sales. I’ll contribute to the Morlock thread once they arrive. Definitely a lot of aspirational flippers, many who strangely described themselves as motivated sellers or willing to make deals. I’ve never been particularly skilled/comfortable with haggling. I’d assume anything more than 15% off asking is offensive to offer, maybe some were willing to go much lower, but I just passed them by if their sticker prices were more than 15% above what I’d say was fair. Twanj, cloud cloddie, New School Fool and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IceHole Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 I did get one piece during the event...big thing was seeing a Tradd Moore "Silver Surfer Black" page sell (that I did at one point own) during the event. Donno if anyone else saw that seller is giving 5% of the sale back to Tradd. Twanj, Phill the Governor, Latverian Tourism Board and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grant Turner Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 I bought a Ditko Daredevil 235 page featuring Mr Hyde, that I felt was reasonably priced (and I’ve been wanting a Ditko, Marvel, pre 90’s page for my collection) the page right before it in the book, featuring the same characters and almost identical in layout and design, sold on heritage a month ago for twice what I paid for mine, so I think the seller was being fair so I’m pretty happy! IceHole, The Voord, jjonahjameson11 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud cloddie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 9:39 AM, Sean- said: Were the Want List notification filters and messages from sellers of saved items on price drops new this time? I didn’t remember it from before, but nice features! Yeah, first time I noticed both as well. Good changes. I got a % discount notice from a seller about a watched piece - if the original price was anywhere close to the realm of reason, that email would’ve made me consider it. Hockeyflow33 and John E. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 12:39 PM, Sean- said: It was a lot of fun searching through all of the art and getting to look over the scans. I appreciate Bill and his teams time and effort. Were the Want List notification filters and messages from sellers of saved items on price drops new this time? I didn’t remember it from before, but nice features! I got 3 pieces that I felt were fairly priced considering they were in categories you don’t see a ton in public sales. I’ll contribute to the Morlock thread once they arrive. Definitely a lot of aspirational flippers, many who strangely described themselves as motivated sellers or willing to make deals. I’ve never been particularly skilled/comfortable with haggling. I’d assume anything more than 15% off asking is offensive to offer, maybe some were willing to go much lower, but I just passed them by if their sticker prices were more than 15% above what I’d say was fair. I was looking at one page which was listed by a seller who indicated he would make deals. The one page was $1,500 (and worth about 1/3-1/2 of that). He was willing to cut his price by $100.00. I declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 One thing I have mentioned a few times before and I will mention again. While prices at auction and some private sales have been through the roof on "A" pages, what about average stuff or items below $2,500? Perhaps by broadcasting huge changes at the high end, we have let sellers inadvertently believe those increases uniformly apply at the lower end, too (which I doubt). In other words, the pricing here is a reflection of us being hoisted by our own petard. Twanj, Hockeyflow33 and Sean I 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstoppablejayd Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 12:55 PM, Grant Turner said: I bought a Ditko Daredevil 235 page featuring Mr Hyde, that I felt was reasonably priced (and I’ve been wanting a Ditko, Marvel, pre 90’s page for my collection) the page right before it in the book, featuring the same characters and almost identical in layout and design, sold on heritage a month ago for twice what I paid for mine, so I think the seller was being fair so I’m pretty happy! This was a great buy! I had seriously considered it.. Congrats! Grant Turner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Underbidder on a few pieces...... Oh dang, Wrong thread.....won't get any street-cred mileage with that one here. gumbydarnit, Sideshow Bob, Sean I and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethedew Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Snagged one 90's-era splash page for $400. Pretty happy. AcA fsumavila and Rick2you2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Judas Hel Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) I didn’t buy anything this year as nothing really moved me in my usual price range ($250-$1000) towards a purchase but the event did place me in contact with a seller I’ve bought from before on a piece that he had on his CAF gallery that fit my collecting specifications excellently and I was very interested in. It was over my comfort zone in price but he was willing to take off 10% and accepted timed payments so I took the plunge. And I do agree that I like the feature of sellers being able to contact potential buyers via saved artworks so possible transactions are made more likely. Edited May 24, 2022 by Benedict Judas Hel spidey300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 9:58 AM, KingOfRulers said: Lots of great pieces. Lots of high prices, but I can't fault them for trying. All it takes is one buyer. One Spider-Man piece in particular made me laugh due to the exorbitant price level. I'd call it 10x what I'd value the piece, even in today's hot market. It seems as though everyone that has a Spider-Man page that features the black costume believes it to be worth a fortune because of two wildly outlier Heritage sales. Shortly after ASM 252 was published, several fan polls were taken in various comics magazine publications that showed an approximate 50/50 split regarding the new black & white costume vs the old red & blue, and I assume that's carried over into OA collecting. However, given there are far less pages with the black & white costume, and given similar preference to one costume over the other, wouldn't pages with the black & white costume command higher prices than those with the red & blue? On a side note, congrats to the buyers of the Web of Spidey #1 pages at the last HA auction...I think you did well, and those pages still have a lot of room to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRulers Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) On 5/24/2022 at 8:02 AM, jjonahjameson11 said: Shortly after ASM 252 was published, several fan polls were taken in various comics magazine publications that showed an approximate 50/50 split regarding the new black & white costume vs the old red & blue, and I assume that's carried over into OA collecting. However, given there are far less pages with the black & white costume, and given similar preference to one costume over the other, wouldn't pages with the black & white costume command higher prices than those with the red & blue? On a side note, congrats to the buyers of the Web of Spidey #1 pages at the last HA auction...I think you did well, and those pages still have a lot of room to grow. That is a logical thought process. That is, equal demand being compressed into a much smaller supply. It very well may be the case. For me, personally, I don't look at it that way. In my eyes it was just an extremely overpriced Spider-Man page. I don't have separate desires to own a traditional Spider-Man costume page and a black costume page. For me, if it's an artist I like and a Spider-Man page that I enjoy, I'd like to own the page, regardless of the costume. From a collecting standpoint, I don't care about which costume is featured, so I would not fit into the logical equation that you expressed. Edited May 24, 2022 by KingOfRulers John E., cloud cloddie and spidey300 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Made my first buys in CAF LIVE to date (near misses in previous shows). It is a great event that brings a lot of art to market - several that had not seen the light of day in a long time. Some prices were high but that's how it is these days - not unique to this event IMO. RBerman and trimpehulk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 9:40 AM, KingOfRulers said: That is a logical thought process. That is, equal demand being compressed into a much smaller supply. It very well may be the case. For me, personally, I don't look at it that way. In my eyes it was just an extremely overpriced Spider-Man page. I don't have separate desires to own a traditional Spider-Man costume page and a black costume page. For me, if it's an artist I like and a Spider-Man page that I enjoy, I'd like to own the page, regardless of the costume. From a collecting standpoint, I don't care about which costume is featured, so I would not fit into the logical equation that you expressed. Don’t get me wrong…I’m not attempting to justify the prices realized for the Two Secret Wars pages so much as I am thinking aloud about the availability of black costume Spidey pages potentially driving up prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimpehulk Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 11:05 AM, jjonahjameson11 said: Don’t get me wrong…I’m not attempting to justify the prices realized for the Two Secret Wars pages so much as I am thinking aloud about the availability of black costume Spidey pages potentially driving up prices For many collectors they consider the secret wars era the sweet spot of the comic events they well remember the Black costume era included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
