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[BlowUpTheMoon]

On 8/15/2022 at 1:47 PM, jsilverjanet said:

nothing personal, but this is just silly bros

Hey comic fam! 

[buttock]

Can someone clarify something for me?  Whatnot appears to be like ebay only with live sales?  

[DrunkWooky]

On 8/15/2022 at 2:28 PM, buttock said:

Can someone clarify something for me?  Whatnot appears to be like ebay only with live sales?  

Yup. Another way to think about it is like Instagram Live Video sales, except with a built in payment system. You have to apply and be "approved" to sell. 

[Dr. Balls]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:28 AM, Prince Namor said:

Unfortunately the history of this hobby is: 'Cool books' > 'Ethics'. 

I think this applies to every hobby, now. I just sold my entire record collection because I was simply just sick of the record collecting community and the types of people it attracts. Comic books are no different, but I enjoy the art of comics more than the sound of vinyl, so I used my record collection to help get me back into comics.

And if you think this hobby is bad, try looking for a Chevy 4-speed bellhousing for a 1970 Camaro. Boardies here tell you "good luck" when you're looking for a particular book. You ask a car guy for a hard-to-find part and they'll laugh at you, ridicule you, call you an insufficiently_thoughtful_person and then try to steal it from their friend and sell it to you behind their back for 5x what it's worth. I do not miss the vintage car circle - I spent most of my adulthood there and the people there sucked all the fun out of owning hotrods. We have it easy here on the Boards - people here are generally nice, light-hearted and conversational.

People's inherent nature of wanting to own things to rub in people's faces has intensified to an unbelievable height thanks to Instagram and all the other social media tripe - likes and clicks and views seems to trump ethics any day of the week. 

[buttock]

On 8/15/2022 at 2:31 PM, DrunkWooky said:

Yup. Another way to think about it is like Instagram Live Video sales, except with a built in payment system. You have to apply and be "approved" to sell. 

Dear God.  And people do this voluntarily?  That sounds like torture.  

[DR.X]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:34 PM, Dr. Balls said:

And if you think this hobby is bad, try looking for a Chevy 4-speed bellhousing for a 1970 Camaro.

For the stock 4 speed muncie, or the rock crusher?

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:38 PM, buttock said:

Dear God.  And people do this voluntarily?  That sounds like torture.  

If its anything like live Facebook sales, which is what I get a picture of but I dont use the app, a lot  and I mean nearly every LCS during this period has started using live Facebook sale, now one LCS has started on whatnot. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[DrunkWooky]

On 8/15/2022 at 2:38 PM, buttock said:

Dear God.  And people do this voluntarily?  That sounds like torture.  

Yes. Instead of wanting a Meet the Skrulls #1, going to ebay, finding one, and buying it within 10 minutes, you tune in to one of many sellers going live at different times throughout the days and weeks, watch for hours on end, then click "bid" versus however many others are watching and pay probably 200%-500% what you should be paying in order to "win." 

I watched and bought some things a few times, but I honestly couldn't imagine paying attention for as long as people are selling. As a curiosity, just tuning in randomly to see what was being offered, It was kinda interesting. If you're looking for one thing in particular, though, it's not ideal. 

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:43 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

If its anything like live Facebook sales, which is what I get a picture of but I dont use the app, a lot  and I mean nearly every LCS during this period has started using live Facebook sale, now one LCS has started on whatnot. 

So it may be what people are used to, by now, is my point, what's another app

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[jsilverjanet]

I refer to it as QVC 

[awakeintheashes]

On 8/15/2022 at 4:46 PM, jsilverjanet said:

I refer to it as QVC 

I remember when QVC had an hour or so dedicated to Comics and Star Wars stuff respectfully. Some of the hosts and guests weren’t bad. Nobody said "bro." It was a simpler time. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by awakeintheashes
Decided is not dedicated

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:44 PM, DrunkWooky said:

Yes. Instead of wanting a Meet the Skrulls #1, going to ebay, finding one, and buying it within 10 minutes, you tune in to one of many sellers going live at different times throughout the days and weeks, watch for hours on end, then click "bid" versus however many others are watching and pay probably 200%-500% what you should be paying in order to "win." 

I watched and bought some things a few times, but I honestly couldn't imagine paying attention for as long as people are selling. As a curiosity, just tuning in randomly to see what was being offered, It was kinda interesting. If you're looking for one thing in particular, though, it's not ideal. 

Oh wow I didnt know the "bid" portion 

That sucks, so it can be bid up? With an established starting point?

[Dr. Balls]

On 8/15/2022 at 2:42 PM, DR.X said:

For the stock 4 speed muncie, or the rock crusher?

Muncie. The stock aluminum bellhousings for that year are coveted by the Corvette guys (I was building a '70 Camaro) and after about 6 months of getting ridiculed on the Chevy chatboards for even bothering to ask about one, I managed to find a cracked one on Ebay that was repaired/welded. To which I was further told that it was worthless because it was cracked.  Tough crowd, those guys.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Dr. Balls

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:43 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

If its anything like live Facebook sales, which is what I get a picture of but I dont use the app, a lot  and I mean nearly every LCS during this period has started using live Facebook sale, now one LCS has started on whatnot. 

 

On 8/15/2022 at 3:46 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

So it may be what people are used to, by now, is my point, what's another app

 

Comparatively all live Facebook feeds were just a bin with a claim on each book, but an auction style live feed sounds horrible. Especially if it means one book up for sale lasts longer until they get to the next. With all the Drek for sale, it's hard to sit and wait for something interesting 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[jcjames]

On 8/15/2022 at 1:44 PM, DrunkWooky said:

Yes. Instead of wanting a Meet the Skrulls #1, going to ebay, finding one, and buying it within 10 minutes, you tune in to one of many sellers going live at different times throughout the days and weeks, watch for hours on end, then click "bid" versus however many others are watching and pay probably 200%-500% what you should be paying in order to "win." 

I watched and bought some things a few times, but I honestly couldn't imagine paying attention for as long as people are selling. As a curiosity, just tuning in randomly to see what was being offered, It was kinda interesting. If you're looking for one thing in particular, though, it's not ideal. 

Any of the FB comic-sellers I've seen were BINs.

But I get the distinct impression that a lot of the "buyers" on these FB live comicbook seller accounts are OTHER sellers from other FB live accounts all hocking up each other's garbage like a bunch of shills in a 3-card street Monte game hoping to corral in a couple marks to buy their over-priced crap. Seriously. 

And the sellers invariably just flash the cover of the book still in bag and board real quick to the camera for like 0.5 seconds on the screen, say it's in "really good shape" and the shills jump on it immediately for stupid-money and so if you're a real buyer (i.e. a "mark") who's really interested in a book shown waaaaaaay in the back of their FB wall, you gotta jump on it as soon as they pull it out. 

I know for a fact you can trace a few of the buyers right back to having their OWN FB-live comic selling accounts. 

I hate those selling platforms with a vengeance. 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by jcjames

[DrunkWooky]

On 8/15/2022 at 2:56 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

Oh wow I didnt know the "bid" portion 

That sucks, so it can be bid up? With an established starting point?

Yeah. When a bid is made, usually, it adds another 10 seconds to the clock. So, that definitely compounds the inflated prices. So, if you bid with 1 second left, 10 seconds are added and other  buyers have 10 seconds to outbid you. 

There's a buy it now feature, but it is on a separate screen during the live feed and not as frequently used. Some people just let their live feed sit there with nothing going on for hours on end with buy it now listings available. I've heard those tactics are not terribly successful. 

If you have a bunch of sub-$10 back issues, it kind of begs the question why you don't just list them on ebay and wait however long it takes for a buyer to come along rather than tie up all your store's bandwidth with a live feed. 

It works for some things. If a book that was dollar bin last week spikes up to $50-100 because of this week's streaming episode, sure go live and auction it. As a seller, you'll do great provided you have a big enough following that you don't just get one guy low-ball bidding you. But for low dollar filler issues, what are we doing here? 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

[Cat]

Don't 'bro' me if you don't know me. 

And even then, please don't. It's brah.

[MetalPSI]

On 8/15/2022 at 4:10 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Really wished Cameron Diaz didn't use Musks hair gel

[MrBedrock]

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