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[Sigur Ros]

On 8/8/2022 at 3:34 AM, Beige said:

Released at SDCC - yet already graded, encapsulated and on ebay. 

 

SDCC?  Thought they only showed up at C2E2. 

Regardless, the book came out last November. The guy stapled covers to them and submitted for grading.  They could easily have been back before C2E2. 

Not saying that's what happened but it could be. 

Maybe the only knock against CGC is the incorrect, faulty grading.   Not cutting lines. 

And would hate to think the grades were paid for again, like Bad Idea... and who knows who else. 

[deadleg]

On 8/8/2022 at 4:02 AM, TTony said:

CGC label says "in God We Trust"... Comic cover says "IN God WE INTRUST".  

 

Great. Now you just made it worth more because you pointed out the grammatical error on the cover. 

[DavidTheDavid]

On 8/8/2022 at 2:34 AM, Beige said:

All these 'influencers' come across as a complete bunch of wankers, if I'm being honest. 

 

Who actually watches the stuff these cockwombles put out and go - 'yeah this guy is gunna make me a mint if I follow his advice'

 

Seriously - who are these people who are so stupid as to think they will make thousands off a UF#4 facsimille with a bit of acetane stuck on it.

 

Oh hang on - theres the old stars and stripes - must be worth thousands.

 

The sooner the variant market crashes and burns in such a frigging massive bonfire of massive proportions that it makes the Hindenberg look like a BBQ pit, the better.

 

And CGC - screw you for grading them - and grading them incorrectly.

 

Seems turnaround times don't count for some 'important people who influence dummies' - nor the rules about double covers and extra staples. 

 

All pretence of this not being a huge CGC driven scam has gone out the window. 

 

Released at SDCC - yet already graded, encapsulated and on ebay. 

 

Good honest work you are doing here CGC .

 

Wankers.

Cockwomble is going into my active vocabulary starting today.

[october]

On 8/8/2022 at 2:34 AM, Beige said:

All these 'influencers' come across as a complete bunch of wankers

From time to time I've tried to watch various YouTube comic content. I've never make it more than 30 seconds (Kayfabe excluded). Same with card content. They all just come across as loud, hyper, obnoxious douchepumps. I don't understand the appeal, and the fact that they get preferential treatment makes me weep for the younger generations.

In some other thread it was mentioned that one of them, the Nerd Girl or whoever, had "fans" pay for her SD con trip. I don't know if that's true, but I've heard similar crowdfunding stories out of the video game community. I can't think of a dumber way to spend money. Time to reevaluate life if you are paying for some tool to take a trip so you can watch the video after. 

[jsilverjanet]

On 8/7/2022 at 8:51 PM, october said:

There are so many sad, gross things in this thread I don't know which sad, gross thing is the worst. 

This should be pinned. 

I know we aren’t all pretty but

[jsilverjanet]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:42 AM, october said:

They all just come across as loud, hyper, obnoxious douchepumps. I don't understand the appeal

I agree but we aren’t the target audience 

[jsilverjanet]

Also I thought nerdy girl was a board member 

[Black_Adam]

On 8/8/2022 at 5:12 AM, jsilverjanet said:

Also I thought nerdy girl was a board member 

I believe she and her husband share @Filter81 but both are rarely seen here anymore as they prefer the Instagram.

[Shazbot]

Bit of a twist on the classic Pump and Dump scam. Hype the umbrella with a hot product then short-sell it all to your inside-trading partners who Jack up the price after the closing bell. In other "markets" such "investors" and those who facilitate these manipulations go to prison.

In this market the only regulators are us. The only way to stop it is to stop paying silly money for manufactured "value". No 32pg comic book should sell off-the-rack for $75. Period.

Frankly tho, LCSs have been doing  something like this for forever, they sell all their copies of ASM-361 to speculators and favored regulars before they even put any out on the shelf. Plebs like me go home with a bunch of keys missing from our runs, that 3 months later are way out of our price range(but I'm not bitter about it at all).

[manetteska]

 

[manetteska]

If no one "knew about" this variant before the craziness, why was everyone standing in line hours before opening and allegedly pre-ordering dozens of copies?

Seems like some people knew...

[Sigur Ros]

On 8/8/2022 at 9:30 AM, manetteska said:

If no one "knew about" this variant before the craziness, why was everyone standing in line hours before opening and allegedly pre-ordering dozens of copies?

Seems like some people knew...

Did someone say no one knew about this? 

If so, that is definitely incorrect. 

[toro]

I watched a few minutes of Nerdy Girl's Whatnot sale last night.  She was getting attacked in there and was asking for mods to boot them out.  She did auction one of the books for $185. I'll usually watch her stream as I just laugh at how many people pay $50 or more for a $5 book from her.

[manetteska]

On 8/8/2022 at 8:36 AM, Sigur Ros said:

On 8/8/2022 at 8:30 AM, manetteska said:

If no one "knew about" this variant before the craziness, why was everyone standing in line hours before opening and allegedly pre-ordering dozens of copies?

Seems like some people knew...

Did someone say no one knew about this? 

If so, that is definitely incorrect. 

At least one of the influencers claims no knowledge, though purchased a total of 75 copies for 9 different people. Another had a large post with commentary but it is now gone.

Even the guy in the video above (who I don't know, just watched the video on this topic) stood in line for quite a while to buy one for someone else and ended up spending $700 of his own money for some reason.

Edited August 8, 2022 by manetteska
clarity

[Artboy99]

I have experienced that and I was the second person in the line, the person ahead of me bought everything. 

[jsilverjanet]

On 8/8/2022 at 8:44 AM, toro said:

I watched a few minutes of Nerdy Girl's Whatnot sale last night.  She was getting attacked in there and was asking for mods to boot them out.  She did auction one of the books for $185. I'll usually watch her stream as I just laugh at how many people pay $50 or more for a $5 book from her.

From her Instagram 

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by jsilverjanet

[jsilverjanet]

On 8/7/2022 at 5:23 PM, Lazyboy said:

On 8/7/2022 at 1:13 PM, jsilverjanet said:

Black Flag comics is the booth that sold the books. They should be the ones being ripped, not the buyers 

let me elaborate on why i said what i did

if a seller is not going to put a cap on what can buy at their booth, why should i limit what i can purchase. this doesn't mean I condone cutting in line etc but how is that my fault

i wouldn't have purchase this book, i saw it, saw the line and thought the book is ugly and not worth it

the outrage of those who were not able to buy the book because other buyers took "too many", thats the fault of the seller. they could have limited (which I've seen many other do) the number of copys you can buy.

the cutting in line, giving pref treatment has been happening at cons since I've been going. I've seen others get crack at other books first, I've gotten books from dealers first. whether it's at a show, at their home or in their garage. That's business, and it happens all the time. But a publicly promoted book, limited to # of quantities is mostly always sold with a limit.

Now the greed of some of these buyers is not a good look agreed. No need to buy 75, and personally to me that's a poor business decision. Too many to have and they will not sell fast, and in the end it's a losing investment of time/money.

 

[Nazirite]

[DavidTheDavid]

The variant craze is out of control. You can find #1's of one title or another with 20+ or even 30+ variants. Now, I will buy some variants for some artists, such as Maria Wolf, Michael Allred, or Francesco Francavilla. There is a lot of gorgeous work being done. But some of these con variants are just ... not good. Oh look, another AF 15 or Detective Comics #27 "homage" . And how many ASM #300 rip offs do we need? And people start asking $100.00 for them. You can find them here on the boards right now. Those covers aren't attractive or special. This is really pretentious to write, I know, but those aren't being bought by people with taste, but by speculators or deluded fanboys.

Edited August 8, 2022 by DavidTheDavid

[Black_Adam]

For those who don't do the Instagram, here is the buyer's statement on this variant "drama."