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[Magmar]

A while back CGC came out with the really cool concept of adding artwork to labels.

 

They then created demand by 'vaulting labels'  so if you were lucky and got your book graded while a label was available it felt 'special'

They just announced they are un-vaulting the NY spiderman label

 

WHY?>????

 

This totally takes away from the whole idea of vaulting in the first place -   graded slabs with a highly sought after label were desirable - now it no longer matters - you might as well just not vault anything and have a 100+ to choose from on a drop down

 

Bad decision to un-vault -   period.  Keep things rare and keep the feeling that you had special labelled slabs -   design new labels instead -  do not un-vault any additional labels - please.

[Sweet Lou 14]

I try to avoid buying any books with gimmick labels, and if I feel I have no choice then I buy the book, unpack it, repack it, and ship it to Sarasota to get reholdered.

[D2]

Unvaulting is a mistake 

[Gator Guru]

On 9/26/2023 at 7:48 AM, Magmar said:

A while back CGC came out with the really cool concept of adding artwork to labels.

 

They then created demand by 'vaulting labels'  so if you were lucky and got your book graded while a label was available it felt 'special'

They just announced they are un-vaulting the NY spiderman label

 

WHY?>????

 

This totally takes away from the whole idea of vaulting in the first place -   graded slabs with a highly sought after label were desirable - now it no longer matters - you might as well just not vault anything and have a 100+ to choose from on a drop down

 

Bad decision to un-vault -   period.  Keep things rare and keep the feeling that you had special labelled slabs -   design new labels instead -  do not un-vault any additional labels - please.

Completely agree with you. Very bad look, move on their part. Come out with a new label for NYCC only but DO NOT “un-retire” a label. So now going forward they have labels that are vaulted instead of retired and are not actually exclusive at all. Only exclusive to a time period. Unbelievable 

[Dave2739]

I collect comic books not labels. 

[Sigur Ros]

If my AF15 had a retired label and they unretired it, I'd be fuming too.

Because, as we all know, the real value is in the label.

 

 

[D2]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:00 AM, Dave2739 said:

I collect comic books not labels. 

No one is telling you what to collect. 

So why are you telling people what they should?

[Dave2739]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:28 AM, D2 said:

No one is telling you what to collect. 

So why are you telling people what they should?

I made a statement. I didn't tell anyone what they should or should not do.

[D2]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:32 AM, Dave2739 said:

I made a statement. I didn't tell anyone what they should or should not do.

Yeah you did. Typical board behaviour. Hiding behind technicalities. You said I don’t collect labels and insinuated that others shouldn’t either. Period. 

[Dave2739]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:35 AM, D2 said:

Yeah you did. Typical board behaviour. Hiding behind technicalities. You said I don’t collect labels and insinuated that others shouldn’t either. Period. 

Okay, you are right.

[D2]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:37 AM, Dave2739 said:

Okay, you are right.

It sucks. It sucks thinking people have things in common in a niche hobby and yet, there are still ways people can find to divide each other. 

[Dick Pontoon]

[DougC]

This entire thread is satire right.... sometimes I cannot tell and it scares me.

 

and the answer to the question of why the "unvaulted" the label is money! CGC is a company and nothing else matters outside year over year increase of profit margin.

[ADAMANTIUM]

 tbh

I vaguely remember a thread where people begged for this label to come back for a second, and @CGC Mike they tagged him to put in the good word.

Something about a registry and wanting all the same labels, which were EVEN sent in "IN time?" but a few were mechanical errors, but by the time those were sent in, the label was retired?

I may be way out of left field on the reasoning, but could have swore this was tagged for unretirement in a thread of request, hence why it IS BACK for a second. idk

I'm more worried about the guy who said, "no one remembers and there is no proof that the Stan Lee limited label happened!" Something about it not being in the "list of past retired labels?" oye unless I'm dreaming or some kind of deja vu

I have a New York Label, one other label of spidey, but then have 3 to 4 of the Stan Lee and I'm dreading it being to newcomers like 1st gen labels where the new people wonder if even real  

Sounds more detrimental to me but 

 

[ADAMANTIUM]

I think they did the same with some Walking Dead labels in the past, but maybe they weren't available to "everyone"

Something about the registry/"ME"S again, but more to the tune of we'll see if we can order more just to cover the "ME'S"

This is more of a rerelease, which I can understand sets precedent. They could at least put "edition 2" on it, or "rerelease" or something?

 

[Tnexus]

I haven't really been following labels so forgive my ignorance. Have they ever actually claimed they were never to be reprinted? Based on other products (Disney for example), being put in a vault never means it's permanently exclusive. It just means it's going away for an unknown period.

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:17 AM, Tnexus said:

I haven't really been following labels so forgive my ignorance. Have they ever actually claimed they were never to be reprinted? Based on other products (Disney for example), being put in a vault never means it's permanently exclusive. It just means it's going away for an unknown period.

idk if it was as clearly stated, imo it only said "limited edition", and CGC said that was due to copyright and other contractual stuff that we are not exactly privy too.

In short and for the most part, they HAVE BEEN limited, this has at least been since 2016, so that is half a decade with limited efficiency....

Beyond that reputation and etc. but that is my understanding  

Edited September 26, 2023 by ADAMANTIUM

[Sigur Ros]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:37 AM, Dave2739 said:

Okay, you are right.

I know you're just trying to end his arguing, but I read what you wrote and understood it  👍

I agree cgc labels are a strange thing to place any sort of value on....and I also agree you weren't telling others what to do.

[Get Marwood & I]

Things that I don't understand, having read this thread:

• Vaulted labels
• Unvaulted labels
• Adamantium
• The world anymore

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 9/26/2023 at 11:08 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Things that I don't understand, having read this thread:

• Vaulted labels
• Unvaulted labels
• Adamantium
• The world anymore

Speaking of which, is there a place for a list of retired labels? 

I'm curious to see how far back they go, and if the Stan label is there because I know there were 2 official editions: 1 for his website at the time, which was even 'more limited". and then one in "general availability" directly from CGC...