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The OFFICIAL "This week in your ORIGINAL ART collection?"
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jjeanius

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That's an amazing painting...I hope to all Hades that Jeremy changes the varnish he uses though.

 

Geddes is a real up and comer though. Awesome piece!

 

Thanks! From what I understand, he's already changed his varnish. From what I understand, he had changed varnishes just prior to doing this painting, and was doing very dark pieces, so didn't realize the effect it would have on lighter colors. It seems to only affect (or is only noticeable on) white areas. Someone contacted Jeremy about this (mine is not the only painting that exhibits this yellowing), and he actually said that putting it in a sunny, well-lit area would actually lighten the painting a bit...but does this make sense to anyone else? I would think it might have the opposite effect. Either way, it doesn't really bother me much, especially since it looked this way when I saw it for the first time...I just hope it doesn't get worse. And I wouldn't mind reversing the process if possible...but I don't even know if that's an option.

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Its been a pretty good week for me I was able to sell enough stuff for the CA art and now these two pieces.

 

a fun corny Ghost rider page from the 70's Gallery

 

and a 70's Warlock page from issue 6 with Reed Richards turning into the Brute and 2 panels of Warlock himself. Gallery

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You could contact a museum for restoration info. I would bet they have reversal and preservation techniques as well as specialists you could call. Might cost more than the painting though.

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jjeanius

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You could contact a museum for restoration info. I would bet they have reversal and preservation techniques as well as specialists you could call. Might cost more than the painting though.

 

Cool, thanks. You're probably right. Still, good to look into...

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Just got this page, Thanks Dino!

 

Awesome Submariner page - 893applaud-thumb.gif

 

Thanks, it has popped up a few times in that last couple of years, but now it is gone for good! I was really happy when I was able to buy it since I missed it in Heritage's auction the 1st go around and got home late from work and missed it in the CLINK auction.

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That's an amazing painting...I hope to all Hades that Jeremy changes the varnish he uses though.

 

Geddes is a real up and comer though. Awesome piece!

 

Thanks! From what I understand, he's already changed his varnish. From what I understand, he had changed varnishes just prior to doing this painting, and was doing very dark pieces, so didn't realize the effect it would have on lighter colors. It seems to only affect (or is only noticeable on) white areas. Someone contacted Jeremy about this (mine is not the only painting that exhibits this yellowing), and he actually said that putting it in a sunny, well-lit area would actually lighten the painting a bit...but does this make sense to anyone else? I would think it might have the opposite effect. Either way, it doesn't really bother me much, especially since it looked this way when I saw it for the first time...I just hope it doesn't get worse. And I wouldn't mind reversing the process if possible...but I don't even know if that's an option.

 

I wish I knew enough to give you exact advice on how to fix it, but it's good to hear Jeremy's already switched that.

 

I think I would be wary about putting it in a sunny area because, while the varnish might lighten, the paint would follow suit- which you obviously wouldn't want because the paint still looks to be fine. Maybe just doing it enough to lighten the varnish, than avoiding the sunlight might work...but that's treading dangerous waters so I don't want to specifically recommend that.

 

I'd follow the advice of the other posters and contact somebody who deals in restoration/preservation. Even if reversing it (if possible) isn't an option, they could give you some help on trying to keep it as stable as possible. You might want to contact Jeremy to find out exactly which varnish he used to make your job easier.

 

On the plus side though, that painting might not have come up for sale if it weren't for the varnish issues, and you likely got a great deal on it because of it.

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jjeanius

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I did some reading...and one site says sunlight can act as a bleaching agent on yellowed varnish (attributing the yellowing to exposure to heat), and another site says that exposure to sunlight can cause the varnish to yellow. One thing seems to be clear, though...everything I've read points to the fact that varnish inevitably yellows over time (though this obviously is an accelerated example of that), and the good news: varnish is made to be removable. So if/when it really becomes an issue, it's good to know that the process can definitely be reversed. In the meantime, though, I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't get worse. At this point I don't think the painting is worth enough to warrant the cost of having it fixed.

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You got that peice? I was going to bid on it but I asked for a larger scan of it. It seems odd to me to have a two page spread on one art page with no borders and word balloons. I asked the seller about it and if it had a Marvel copyright stamp on the back but he told me he didn't have time to look at it and answer my questions. So I didn't bid. I am missing that particular issue so I could not compare the line work with the book to see if it was the real deal. or a shadowboxed commission piece. What can you say about the piece I am curious. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

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The other reason I didn't bid is excatly the say question you are asking it didn't add up to me Art is suppose to be from one person but is signed by someone else who I believe wasn't the inker either. I may be wrong.

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You got that peice? I was going to bid on it but I asked for a larger scan of it. It seems odd to me to have a two page spread on one art page with no borders and word balloons. I asked the seller about it and if it had a Marvel copyright stamp on the back but he told me he didn't have time to look at it and answer my questions. So I didn't bid. I am missing that particular issue so I could not compare the line work with the book to see if it was the real deal. or a shadowboxed commission piece. What can you say about the piece I am curious. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

I did some research before I purchased this art. Here is what Tony Isabella, (who worked for Marvel at that time), had to say:

 

"What you have is an attempt by Marvel to cut the actual story page count of their comics without making it obvious that they had done so. All of the issues produced during that period, which I think lasted less than a year, had a page like this.

 

Editorial didn't want to cut the story count to 16 pages of our 32-page comic books.

 

We were told to plot our stories designating two pages which the artists would draw on a single board. Then the production department would blow them up to full size and run them as two seperate pages.

 

Some of us did double-page spreads. Some of us plotted so that the two pages would not appear next to each other and make it obvious that there was something not quite right about them.

 

Eventually, someone figured out that all the extra production work was costing Marvel as much as it was saving by paying for one less page."

 

Since this art was handled differently during the production stage, it's entirely possible that Giocoia inked it. It's also possible that Giacois assisted Mike Esposito with the inks. I have eMailed Mike Esposito about this and hope to have an answer soon.

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I have been looking forward to getting this page and it finally came in the mail today. My first painted page and I love it. It's on thick illustration board and signed by Matt Busch, Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker.

 

buschstarwars.jpg

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