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Grading shenanigans at CGC?
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What’s correct, the census or the label?  Are those few actually graded 9.8s but accidentally have 9.9 labels which are now being sold as 9.9s at huge premiums?

I would not want to be the buyer of those.

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Always check the label # to make sure the # and actual book and grade are the same/match and are correct, especially on expensive books.

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On 10/16/2024 at 10:19 PM, spidermanbeyond said:

Always check the label # to make sure the # and actual book and grade are the same/match and are correct, especially on expensive books.

Seems like the minimum due diligence that the auctioneers.should be performing!

 

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CGC can expect a gold rush of resub's for there glorious new 9.9 bonanza.  The more the merrier the bigger the harrier.  Whomever subbed these are super "lucky".  Those 9.9's are so rare.  :) what a joke.

Seems to be a little bit more then a census error.

 

 

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On 10/16/2024 at 10:49 PM, aszumilo said:

Here's a list of the books for those that don't want to watch the video.

4491019001 - Dazzler 1 - 9.9
4491019002 - Dazzler 1 - 9.9
4491019003 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019004 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019005 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019006 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019007 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9 (Listed in Census as 9.8)
4491019008 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9
4491019009 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019010 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9
4491019011 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9 (Listed in Census as 9.8)
4491019012 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9
4491019013 - New Mutants 1 - 9.8
4491019014 - New Mutants 1 - 9.9
4491019015 - Thor 130 - 9.8
4491019016 - Wovlerine Limited Series 4 - 9.9
4491019017 - X-Men 62 - 9.8 Restored A-1
4491019018 - Uncanny X-Men 145 - 9.9
4491019019 - Uncanny X-Men 174 - 9.9
4491019020 - Uncanny X-Men Ann 3 - 9.9
4491019021 - Uncanny X-Men Ann 3 - 9.8

Very very fishy!

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What would be interesting is who the lucky person was with this sub and ......  This must be a new indoor worlds record for 9.9's.. the question is can it be topped and how quickly and will it now bring in the new era of multiple 10's in submissions.  Tune in and see CGC is really going for it.

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On 10/16/2024 at 7:51 PM, MAY1979 said:

Very very fishy!

Very odd.  makes me wonder if there is some new restoration technique?  One book (Silver Age X-Men 62) has A-1 restoration (small amount of color touch) and was a 9.8, so, makes me wonder if the other books had any work done to them?

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On 10/16/2024 at 6:56 PM, DanJD said:

What’s correct, the census or the label?  Are those few actually graded 9.8s but accidentally have 9.9 labels which are now being sold as 9.9s at huge premiums?

I would not want to be the buyer of those.

Can't speak exactly for these, but I once saw a non-Wizard World CGC 9.5 labeled book that the census listed as 9.6. The correct grade based on CGC correspondence was the census grade. So probably the census.

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On 10/16/2024 at 8:49 PM, aszumilo said:

Here's a list of the books for those that don't want to watch the video.

4491019001 - Dazzler 1 - 9.9
4491019002 - Dazzler 1 - 9.9

4491019003 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019004 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019005 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019006 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019007 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9 (Listed in Census as 9.8)
4491019008 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9

4491019009 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.8
4491019010 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9
4491019011 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9 (Listed in Census as 9.8)
4491019012 - Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8 - 9.9

4491019013 - New Mutants 1 - 9.8
4491019014 - New Mutants 1 - 9.9
4491019015 - Thor 130 - 9.8
4491019016 - Wolverine Limited Series 4 - 9.9
4491019017 - X-Men 62 - 9.8 Restored A-1
4491019018 - Uncanny X-Men 145 - 9.9
4491019019 - Uncanny X-Men 174 - 9.9
4491019020 - Uncanny X-Men Ann 3 - 9.9

4491019021 - Uncanny X-Men Ann 3 - 9.8

Was this a @greggy submission? If yes, that has been the norm for him for a long time before the 9.9 pre-screen. Taking time to be selective with books pays.

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On 10/16/2024 at 11:28 PM, 0r0d said:

I would not be surprised if the news of just this one submission single-handedly tanks the value of 9.9's from now on.  Used to be that 9.9's were extremely rare, and prices reflected that.  But now they're starting to become a dime a dozen.

I wish that was the case for the rest of us. I've submitted over 2,000 books over the past 20 years, but never received a single 9.9 grade.(shrug)

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On 10/17/2024 at 8:31 AM, skybolt said:
On 10/16/2024 at 11:28 PM, 0r0d said:

I would not be surprised if the news of just this one submission single-handedly tanks the value of 9.9's from now on.  Used to be that 9.9's were extremely rare, and prices reflected that.  But now they're starting to become a dime a dozen.

I wish that was the case for the rest of us. I've submitted over 2,000 books over the past 20 years, but never received a single 9.9 grade.(shrug)

I was honestly kind of hoping I would get lucky with a 9.9 of my Saga #1 that I sent in, because you know you're always hoping, especially when it seems possible. It needed a press and is wishful thinking, but now my gut is befuddled if "it happened" do I get happy or no .... lol 

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