Holy Comic Scandal!

[Mr. Zipper]

Personally I would have fired him outright. He was at the function on behave of a public enterprise and as such should have conducted himself in a professional manner .... even if he was not at the actual function at the time. I have seen it plenty of times where a public employee or privatre employee of a very publically visible company have been fired for tarnishing the business' image.

 

This kind of stuff happens all the time for every type of company. I've worked for 2 Fortune 100 companies and been at plenty of trade shows and sales conferences where people get out of hand at after hours parties. Put people in a resort location, mix booze and innocent flirtation and things can turn ugly real quick. The risk factor multiplies as the people are younger.

 

Sometimes the offending executive gets the axe... sometimes the offended party is quickly whisked away and surfaces with a better job at another location.

[Mr. Zipper]

 

Is that Sam Kinison?

 

Given the family pedigree, are we sure there's tobacco in that smoke?

[comicwiz]

Personally I would have fired him outright. He was at the function on behave of a public enterprise and as such should have conducted himself in a professional manner .... even if he was not at the actual function at the time. I have seen it plenty of times where a public employee or privatre employee of a very publically visible company have been fired for tarnishing the business' image.

 

This kind of stuff happens all the time for every type of company. I've worked for 2 Fortune 100 companies and been at plenty of trade shows and sales conferences where people get out of hand at after hours parties. Put people in a resort location, mix booze and innocent flirtation and things can turn ugly real quick. The risk factor multiplies as the people are younger.

 

Sometimes the offending executive gets the axe... sometimes the offended party is quickly whisked away and surfaces with a better job at another location.

 

The only difference here Steve is that if CBLDF doesn't deal with this matter carefully, the entire non-profit organization will be whisked away...

[Darthdiesel]

Time to clean house...

[That Ron Dude]

We are a bunch of geeks. Even those among you who score with airline stewardesses and Penthouse models are geeks, you are just better at hiding it then guys like me. You still know when that geekiness is just below the surface, ready to jump out and bash you on the head. Does it surprise anyone that in a primarily male hobby like ours, with as much arrested development as there is, that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often? Geez, as a group we make engineering students look mature and balanced.

 

Maybe your a geek but I'm not

 

I'm all for geeks who can score with airline [ahem] flight attendants and most certainly Penthouse models! Heck, I'll happily join Lamda, Lamda, Lamda (I think that was the "fraternity") to fit in that category!

 

If I was still single of course.

I'm sure you would. You kinda remind me of booger

 

I think one of the geeks who created Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles married a Pet of the Year. I wonder how that is working out. Can you imagine?

 

I have this great idea for a James Bond flick: He walks into the casino, no make that the comic convention. He barters with the arch villian on a raw copy of Action #1 as a crowd gathers. They argue condition, market fluctuations, reliability of the Overstreet. Eventually the villian is beaten down and James gets the Action #1 for half it's market value. Then he walks over to the CGC table and they estimate it at a 9.8. James looks across the room and sees a famous fem-fan... let's call her Maggie. Together they walk up to the green room where he asks for a Jolt Cola, shaken, not stirred. The fat, bearded fan in charge of the drinks shakes one up, opens it and blasts it over Maggie's T-shirt. This gives her a transparent T-shirt like in a wet T-shirt contest, only brown. James is overcome with passion and grabs her breast.

 

I can't get past that, but I think it's a good first twenty minutes.

[joe_collector]

Seriously, she acts like the entire evening went against her wishes. She was coaxed down to the pool (against her wishes), she was thrown in the pool (against her wishes), she stayed in the hot tub with the guy until 3 am (I'm sure against her wishes), she started to get out at which time he did what most men would do...and that is finally bust a move by rubbing her shoulders...and she stayed in (against her wishes). As she stayed in, he began to rub under her shirt and slowly moved from the back to the front and then to her breasts (against her wishes). He then tried to list her shirt, at which time her boyfriend became suspicious and came over to the hot tub (probably against her wishes) and intervened.

 

Do you even READ what is posted?

 

The guy expressed his REGRET at his actions, and although he did not totally corroborate her story, he did admit to some of it, and followed her out of the pool, trying repeatedly to apologize.

 

Now why do you suppose Mr Casanova here does all this, if he's just putting the moves on a totally willing participant?

[Scheradon]

Seriously, she acts like the entire evening went against her wishes. She was coaxed down to the pool (against her wishes), she was thrown in the pool (against her wishes), she stayed in the hot tub with the guy until 3 am (I'm sure against her wishes), she started to get out at which time he did what most men would do...and that is finally bust a move by rubbing her shoulders...and she stayed in (against her wishes). As she stayed in, he began to rub under her shirt and slowly moved from the back to the front and then to her breasts (against her wishes). He then tried to list her shirt, at which time her boyfriend became suspicious and came over to the hot tub (probably against her wishes) and intervened.

 

Do you even READ what is posted?

 

The guy expressed his REGRET at his actions, and although he did not totally corroborate her story, he did admit to some of it, and followed her out of the pool, trying repeatedly to apologize.

 

Now why do you suppose Mr Casanova here does all this, if he's just putting the moves on a totally willing participant?

 

Of course I read it. Learn to read behind the lines here. Her statement reads like everything that happened that night was not what she really wanted to do. People want the details. Try asking her some tuff questions about her story. Did you read the part where she invited the man along with her boyfriend up to her room for drinks before they went back down to the hot tub?

 

It seems to get out that the perp here was drinking as if she wasn't getting sloshed as well. Like my wife said about it...why, when her boyfriend got out of the hot tub to go to the pool, didn't she go with him. Why would she stay in a hot tub at 3 am with this guy she wasn't feeling comfortable with? Why when he's "cupping her breast" under her shirt is she not calling out to her boyfriend for help?

 

There are more details needed, but the mob here is already on the string him up mode and not questioning anything about her story as if it's 100% fact.

 

Sure this guy is expressing regret. He made a move that he misjudged as being acceptable by her. When he realized she wasn't as receptive to it as he thought she would be, and that she was really upset about it, he apologized. What is so strange about that?

 

How do we know what was really happening leading up to this event? How do we know she wasn't flirting heavily, being a little tipsy and he got the wrong idea? She elected to stay in this hot tub with this guy, even after her boyfriend got out until 3 am. I can't imagine how he may have had the idea that she may have been a little interested in him.

 

I'm not ready to villainize and convict this guy over this. I don't feel he should lose his job. He's been embarrassed and shamed amongst his peers. I think that's been punishment enough in light of an act that the police deemed not to press charges. As well, an independent investigator looked into it and reported back the results to the CBLDF, in which they also took whatever approproiate actions that were needed.

[joe_collector]

Sure this guy is expressing regret. He made a move that he misjudged as being acceptable by her. When he realized she wasn't as receptive to it as he thought she would be, and that she was really upset about it, he apologized. What is so strange about that?

 

Are you really typing this?

 

I'll retype it with the actual terms inserted:

 

Sure this guy is expressing regret. He grabbed her boob that he misjudged as being acceptable by her. When he realized she wasn't as receptive to having her breasts fondled as he thought she would be, and that she was really upset about having her titties groped, he apologized. What is so strange about that?

 

Indeed.

 

And when "your wife" is offering such overtly-misogynist comments, I have to ask, is she actually female? I mean, originally?

[topofthetotem]

Her body her rules! Even if she is plastered and is the biggest flirt on the planet NO means NO!

[Scheradon]

Sure this guy is expressing regret. He made a move that he misjudged as being acceptable by her. When he realized she wasn't as receptive to it as he thought she would be, and that she was really upset about it, he apologized. What is so strange about that?

 

Are you really typing this?

 

I'll retype it with the actual terms inserted:

 

Sure this guy is expressing regret. He grabbed her boob that he misjudged as being acceptable by her. When he realized she wasn't as receptive to having her breasts fondled as he thought she would be, and that she was really upset about having her titties groped, he apologized. What is so strange about that?

 

Indeed.

 

And when "your wife" is offering such overtly-misogynist comments, I have to ask, is she actually female? I mean, originally?

 

JC, this post really crosses the line with me. I don't mind discussing this topic civilly with you, but the comment towards my wife are way out of line.

 

You want to bash this guy for his bad behaviour towards a woman and in doing so, you question my wife's sexual orientation? That's real class offered here.

[joe_collector]

Her body her rules! Even if she is plastered and is the biggest flirt on the planet NO means NO!

 

Believe me I'm no prude but it's gotta be mutual.

 

I've heard this exact same "she was flirting" BS from various dorks, goofs and losers, who had about as much chance scoring with a real woman, as Mini-Me has of making the NBA. Their primary source of female contact is through strippers or Internet porn, which certainly doesn't help develop their sense of real-world personal or sexual politics.

 

Instead, these guys have no conception of reality, how women actually view them, or even the signs that rational people put out to attract the opposite sex. So they get drunk, overstay their welcomes, start making passes and attempting clumsy gropes, then apologize and concoct all manner of "I was drunk" and "I had no idea what I was doing" excuses.

 

This is virtually a textbook case, which is why I'm a bit irritated with some of the forum comments. Might hit a bit close to home for some, eh?

[joe_collector]

[JC, this post really crosses the line with me. I don't mind discussing this topic civilly with you, but the comment towards my wife are way out of line.

 

Read between the lines doofus.

 

I am saying that you are BS'ing about your wife coming out against this "cheap hussy" and that "she deserved it" for being such a wanton slut and sitting in a hot tub with a guy.

 

In cases of sexual harassment (unless she's personally involved with the accused) very few hetero women would come out in support of the sexual molestor. Anytime this stuff comes up at work (no matter how outlandish the claim), all the women form a tight-knit group and you are inviting disaster if you even open your mouth.

 

I asked my wife what she thought, and she replied that the guy should have his hands cut off. Pretty well par for the course as far as women view sexual predators.

[Scheradon]

Her body her rules! Even if she is plastered and is the biggest flirt on the planet NO means NO!

 

That's fine and dandy, but you don't even know what really happened. You're taking her story as 100% fact. We just don't know the details surrounding the night and event. The police decided not to press charges.

 

Everything is being discussed here is speculation. I love these internet juries.

[joe_collector]

That's fine and dandy, but you don't even know what really happened.

 

Here's what we do know:

 

She accused him of lewd and unwelcome sexual groping.

 

He apologized profusely and admits to performing lewd sexual groping.

 

Everything else is details, and it's pretty clear that she's the victim and he's the aggressor, all that needs to be determined is the actual level of the lewd sexual groping.

 

And please, don't be a dork and state this "police didn't press charges" BS. If you had any idea what kind of stuff people get off with only a "stern warning", you'd probably move to the woods and become a survivalist.

 

The prisons are packed, the courts are backlogged, and lots of less-serious crimes just get swept under the carpet, especially if the perp has no priors.

 

And yes, I do have family in law enforcement and corrections (eh, I am from Sudbury - it's either that or INCO ), and the stuff I could tell you would turn your ear hair white. And that's not even getting into the bizarro land of the parole system.

[comicseekers-migration]

That's fine and dandy, but you don't even know what really happened.

 

Here's what we do know:

 

She accused him of lewd and unwelcome sexual groping.

 

He apologized profusely and admits to performing lewd sexual groping.

 

Everything else is details, and it's pretty clear that she's the victim and he's the aggressor, all that needs to be determined is the actual level of the lewd sexual groping.

 

And please, don't be a dork and state this "police didn't press charges" BS. If you had any idea what kind of stuff people get off with only a "stern warning", you'd probably move to the woods and become a survivalist.

 

The prisons are packed, the courts are backlogged, and lots of less-serious crimes just get swept under the carpet, especially if the perp has no priors.

 

And yes, I do have family in law enforcement and corrections (eh, I am from Sudbury - it's either that or INCO ), and the stuff I could tell you would turn your ear hair white.

 

 

his ear hair is white

[BellaDonna]

Her body her rules! Even if she is plastered and is the biggest flirt on the planet NO means NO!

 

That's fine and dandy, but you don't even know what really happened. You're taking her story as 100% fact. We just don't know the details surrounding the night and event. The police decided not to press charges.

 

Everything is being discussed here is speculation. I love these internet juries.

 

"According to the un-redacted report, at the end of Soma's account of the incident to police, her last words were that she did not want to pursue criminal charges. To police, that meant the investigation was over. There was no need to talk to a witness, no need to talk to the accused."

 

Linky

[topofthetotem]

I'm just stating a 100% fact "No means No". Where does it say I said "he is guilty"?

and I'd like to ask you do you know anyone that has been rapped or molested? Unfortunatly I have worked with many of these victims (as young as 5) getting them the help they need, So forgive me if the last thing on my mind would be the alleged perp.

[joe_collector]

his ear hair is white

 

I guess I'm too late, but anyone else who wants "instant white ear hair" send me a PM.

[Scheradon]

I'm just stating a 100% fact "No means No". Where does it say I said "he is guilty"?

and I'd like to ask you do you know anyone that has been rapped or molested? Unfortunatly I have worked with many of these victims (as young as 5) getting them the help they need, So forgive me if the last thing on my mind would be the alleged perp.

 

Ok, you want facts, then go reread her account of what happened and point out to me where she ever said "NO".

[topofthetotem]

I'm just stating a 100% fact "No means No". Where does it say I said "he is guilty"?

and I'd like to ask you do you know anyone that has been rapped or molested? Unfortunatly I have worked with many of these victims (as young as 5) getting them the help they need, So forgive me if the last thing on my mind would be the alleged perp.

 

Ok, you want facts, then go reread her account of what happened and point out to me where she ever said "NO".

Your getting caught up on the word "no"

I meant "no" as in her attempts to try to stop the inapproiate actions that he himself admits to doing, and he apoligies for doing. Out of all three stories this part is the same in each. He did "something" he should not have.FACT!!!!