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Fantastic Four Collecting Thread!
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TheComicsPreacher

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On 3/18/2024 at 4:52 AM, PetuniaGrimm said:

Hmmmm, 20k
The bulk of it I'd spend on a nice FF 12 and the rest on 7, 8, and 10.
I think I could probably swing decent upgrades to all four with 20K.

Niiiice - I like your style. I also LOVE your handle. Perfection. 

Funny enough, I jusssssst picked up this FF12 from Joe - she’s not as high-grade as your wish list would require, but she presents plenty fine to this Preacher. Thanks again for a fair deal on a great book, Joe! @Math Teacher

 

 

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Ok new question, if I may…favorite single issue FF storyline from the original Jack and Stan run?

I’m torn between FF 24 (The Infant Terrible), FF8 (Puppet Master), and FF 21 (hate monger). But since I am forcing the issue, I will go with FF 24: The perfect blend of early Marvel superhero glory and remnants of quirky Strange Tales/TTA/TOS-type late 50s sci -fi humored storytelling from Stanley and Jacob.

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On 3/20/2024 at 11:50 AM, MattTheDuck said:

That's a beautiful copy!  Just received an email from ComicLink that they will have an FF #5 in 9.4 in the next auction :whatthe:.  If anyone has $150,000+ burning a hole in their pocket....

Thanks so much!  It's a big taboo, I know, but I'm all about trimmed/purple labels for these big books.  a) I don't really enjoy it if I can't open it, smell it, read it, etc.  b) the decision between a blue label 1.5 and a purple label 5.0 is a total no-brainer for me c) even if it's still slabbed, there's no qualms in cracking a purple label because the worst has already happened.  For what I paid for this dreamy copy, I could have gotten a blue label I would have had to read like Nicolas Cage in National Treasure. 

 

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On 3/20/2024 at 8:10 AM, Corvonie said:

Landed a big kahuna with the proceeds from a big sale! I'm in disbelief that it's mine.  I think FF #4 is still my ultimate grail, but holey moley

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Haven't actually read this thing in a while - congrats again man!!!

Seeing the images made me realize something I forgot: in the early (very early) issues, maybe only in FF5 and no further actually (?) Doom is portrayed like vulture - his body posture, the angles, the actual side-by-side to vulture splash -etc. What's "the deal" with that? I feel like that's an angle that was dropped early on that REALLY helped to add depth to the doom character - I loved those early versions. I wonder why it was dropped...

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On 3/20/2024 at 6:13 PM, TheComicsPreacher said:

Haven't actually read this thing in a while - congrats again man!!!

Seeing the images made me realize something I forgot: in the early (very early) issues, maybe only in FF5 and no further actually (?) Doom is portrayed like vulture - his body posture, the angles, the actual side-by-side to vulture splash -etc. What's "the deal" with that? I feel like that's an angle that was dropped early on that REALLY helped to add depth to the doom character - I loved those early versions. I wonder why it was dropped...

Funny, I noticed that too!  It's clear DOOM underwent a ton of evolution over the years.  He's very PCH at the beginning, like a Lon Chaney character, which fits with Stan and Jack really trying to figure out how to transition from Sci-Fi/Horror to this new style of super hero.  

My off-hand guess is his posture changed when he became a real super-villain

("Definition of super-villain: a killer who loves children.  One who is well versed in destruction as well as buildin'." - MF DOOM)

and so his posture had to be more upright so you esteem him more.   I'll have to go through my run and see if/when it changes.

Probably my favorite embellishment is the version of his origin where he is only slightly disfigured by the accident, but over-reacts to it so much he actually disfigures himself by having the monks fit him with the hot metal mask. It really adds a layer to his character for me that feels really modern to me.  It's the kind of weird internal dysmorphia that drives incels and a lot of other people to aberrant behavior, people that see themselves as a monster and project that onto everyone else.

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On 3/20/2024 at 4:13 PM, Corvonie said:

Funny, I noticed that too!  It's clear DOOM underwent a ton of evolution over the years.  He's very PCH at the beginning, like a Lon Chaney character, which fits with Stan and Jack really trying to figure out how to transition from Sci-Fi/Horror to this new style of super hero.  

My off-hand guess is his posture changed when he became a real super-villain

("Definition of super-villain: a killer who loves children.  One who is well versed in destruction as well as buildin'." - MF DOOM)

and so his posture had to be more upright so you esteem him more.   I'll have to go through my run and see if/when it changes.

Probably my favorite embellishment is the version of his origin where he is only slightly disfigured by the accident, but over-reacts to it so much he actually disfigures himself by having the monks fit him with the hot metal mask. It really adds a layer to his character for me that feels really modern to me.  It's the kind of weird internal dysmorphia that drives incels and a lot of other people to aberrant behavior, people that see themselves as a monster and project that onto everyone else.

Yes - that issue where he disfigures himself! Forgot about that - great story as well. I forget what issue that is...you'll get to that in the Fantasticast early on though - they have some REALLY interesting things to say about it - similar to your comments actually.

And agree re the transition from PCH to FF is still happening in FF5.

Also agree re posture and "esteem".

Solid points Sir Corvonie.

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You’re both going to love it!

You’d love it more if you were 10, of course. My two best friends and I each bought a copy of the Giant-Size book.
I literally read mine to pieces, then stole Andy’s. I read that copy to shreds, then bought Doug’s for a quarter (Doug guarded his comics better). 
 

Then I learned how to enjoy a comic book without destroying it. :bigsmile:

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On 3/20/2024 at 7:41 PM, KirbyJack said:

You’re both going to love it!

You’d love it more if you were 10, of course. My two best friends and I each bought a copy of the Giant-Size book.
I literally read mine to pieces, then stole Andy’s. I read that copy to shreds, then bought Doug’s for a quarter (Doug guarded his comics better). 
 

Then I learned how to enjoy a comic book without destroying it. :bigsmile:

Just realized I recently picked up a reader copy of annual 6! Gonna dig in tomorrow!

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On 3/20/2024 at 7:41 PM, KirbyJack said:

You’re both going to love it!

You’d love it more if you were 10, of course. My two best friends and I each bought a copy of the Giant-Size book.
I literally read mine to pieces, then stole Andy’s. I read that copy to shreds, then bought Doug’s for a quarter (Doug guarded his comics better). 
 

Then I learned how to enjoy a comic book without destroying it. :bigsmile:

Alex Toth who?  I love these in black and white bc I can find things that really show how Kirby can really do it all.

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