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jaybuck43

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To those accusing me of scamming in my dark knight returns 9.8 cgc ss thread, you are not exactly wrong but I truly wasn't scamming you.

 

 

What I wanted to do was provide images of a cgc ss set so that you would pay the money to paypal and then I would use that money to buy a non ss 9.8 set to get signed and regraded, which I was going to ship to you. Again I offered returns.

 

 

Plus given paypals buyer protection with goods and services ( as i would detail the return policy in the paypal invoice) you would get your money back if i didn't give a return.

 

 

Also if the set regraded less than 9.8 then I would've bought a 9.8 ss and sent it to you. As again I wasn't trying to scam though only make money, though the method may have been a little unorthodox but if you do the math it provides great profit margins.

 

 

 

Thinking this through, it's an even bigger crock than at first glance.

 

You are in one of two situations.

 

It's either:

 

1) You don't want to risk your own money and want someone else to lay out everything plus a profit for yourself for books you don't own, in grades you don't know, with signatures you haven't acquired.

 

You show people manipulated and fake images of books without disclosing that they aren't yours, these aren't the exact books they are buying or that there's a chance the books may never exist in these grades with these signatures. You want people to pay 4 figures for signed books, show them signed books and you are going to get entirely other books signed with their money. What if the signatures look like junk? What if they sign in black on a dark background? What if they are smudged?

 

You'll refund people? After you've had their money for months without any knowledge of what's going on?

 

The other, and worse circumstance would be:

 

2) You don't have the money to buy a non-SS set, pay Miller and Janson's fees, grading and all other costs and then offer the books for sale. You need someone else's money to buy the books, pay for the sigs and grading and shipping.

 

So, if the books come back less than 9.8 or you can only get Miller or only get Janson, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REFUND THE BUYER'S MONEY when you used their money to buy the books and pay the sig fees?

 

How are you going to buy a 9.8 SS set to give to the buyer when you didn't have the money to buy and flip the original set that was offered in the first place?

 

Where's that cash going to come from?

 

 

I'm sure he's got a plan! Here's a pic of the OP

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revat

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I would have pulled it out of my own funds and possibly incur a loss but I thought the risk was worth it.

 

Don't worry, I'm sure the prosecutor in your county will agree with you that the fraud was worth the risk. That's how they decide who to prosecute. "Oh you committed the crime because it was WORTH THE RISK, now it all makes sense. I wish I could prosecute, but because you invoked the 'WORTH THE RISK' defense, legally, our hands are tied. I wonder why more criminals don't use that defense? "

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Defendant: "No Judge, YOU don't understand. It was WORTH THE RISK"

 

Judge: "Oh I didn't hear you, I thought you said "It WASN'T worth the risk, but since it was, case dismissed!"

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I am in high school why?

 

you may or may not realize this, but you've committed a crime, and admitted to it. Like an actual, actionable, go to jail type crime. And for that amount of money, it is a felony in every state in America. I hope for your sake you're not 18 and that you have lazy cops in your area. But you should take all of this seriously, much more serious than you have been. Your future and possibly your freedom could be at stake.

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MustEatBrains

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Batmanis - In all seriousness, many of us have children your age. While I applaud your entrepreneurial spirit, you need to stop this behaviour immediately. It is CRIMINAL, meaning you could get in serious trouble with the law and have a permanent record that will follow you around your entire life.

 

I think based on your posts and PMs that you are actually smart enough to know what you were doing is wrong.

 

Trust me it's never worth the risk.

 

Stay in school, study hard, graduate, go to college, get a nice job that pays well. Then buy comics.

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I was told by OP that the situation was resolved. ?

 

It is. He admitted to committing a crime, and his defense is that he thought it was worth the risk. Nothing else to it.

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