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Bill is not unlike many others who just have a shallow dismissive view of comics. I think they confuse them with cartoons or traditional newspaper comic strips. They might change their tune if just bothered to give these stories & characters a chance

Is it raw or graded?

Take a look at GPA. That's actually a bit more separation than 9.4-9.2, more than 9.2-9.0...9.0-8.5 & so on... they're more or less clustered together other than 9.8 which is far & away highest

This 9.6 went for 14400 today. Curious why the auction dates on the Heritage listing indicated Thursday Nov 15 to Saturday Nov 17 if it was going to end today? Seems a little confusing! There was another 9.6 on eBay recently went for ~14000 but to no one's surprise was relisted. Any 181 that "sells" on eBay is suspect as far as I'm concerned

Ughh... thanks for this! Stan wasn't having it with these racist demagogues. He had a social conscience. Loved this man so much!!!

Yeah it's no accident I just sold a Stan signed book an hour ago on the Bay for a GPA high even though it had a best offer option. They will be flying off the shelves! Rip to the George Washington of the comic book industry!!!

Since I hate starting threads I'll just suggest someone else start a positive MCS one to offset this one I recently posted 2 books that would have been infinitely more difficult to purchase without MCS's patience and payment method flexibility. Can't say enough good things about these guys!!! Always fair pricing too.

Jack Kirby

You can send books to CGC for restoration screening? Did not know. I'd just wonder what chance there would be they miss it?

The shipping box looked like it had a really tough go aside from being delivered late. Thankfully the shipper did a solid job packing it. USPS sucks!!! The back cover is just the typical 70's Evel Knievel ad. I added a couple of keychain nik naks

Speaking of which I thought I saw a comic wall art/decor thread once? I'd use the search engine here but I'd rather avoid the frustrations as it's worthless!

Well I'm in my mid 30's so anything older than me I'd consider old but I guess "old" is relative. Anyhow your point on eye appeal is fair. I'd agree with you on cream pages but not on taking lower grade due to centering.

Yeah it's been established that grade would win out most of time. They're not debating importance of the grade they're debating the question as to whether better page quality would command a higher premium on same graded incredible hulk 181. It was asserted in this thread that page quality (in same grades) doesn't make a difference with a book that is super red hot like IH #181. Obviously others disagreed

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-8-/192709972112

Just saw a new eBay commercial during the Thursday night NFL game and they gave Spidey some love showing AF 15 at the end along with some other spidey modern I couldn't quite make out which it was. Anyways thought I'd just share

You know it's frustrating because sometimes you call these guys with these types of questions and depending on what customer service representative answers your call it's like they're totally befuddled or clueless. It's like your speaking Swahili or something . It's 50/50 as to whether the right answer is given. They need to prep their representatives better.

Worth keeping an eye on with 4 days left https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-MARVEL-THE-AMAZING-SPIDER-MAN-129-1ST-APPEARANCE-PUNISHER-CGC-9-6-OW-W-/163335869447

Oh right... like a counterfeit original

Not sure what you mean by original looking paper but there's plenty of these on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Superman-DC-Action-Comics-1-No-1-June-1938-Reprint-Replica-Exclusive-w-CoA-/192353985088

So long as the seller makes clear in the listing that it's a replica I don't see much wrong there. I have a replica book with the IH 181 cover from '86 which contains the pages from 180 & 181. Got it mainly so I could read it.

That definitely applies with IH 180 in 9.8. None have sold in forever! It's a low census but not that low. It's true for low census books overall in a generally hot market

You're absolutely right on that however I think a more accurate reflection of a book this in demand might be a 90 day average instead of a 12 month. I don't think a copy sold in October/November 2017 holds much sway in today's market

This copy without the mvs (noted in the description) that may be a similar grade just auctioned for ~250 with shipping so who knows https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Incredible-Hulk-180-Oct-1974-Marvel-1st-cameo-appearance-Wolverine-WOW-/263999744518

At this point you may be able to find a coverless or .5 graded for lowish price but even beater copies with stained pages are ~ 150. I got lucky and found one for under 100. I'm not doing it for resale purposes at least for now. Besides who knows what a beat up 180 would go for 20/30 years from now? It's a piece of history as far as I'm concerned! Why not slab it?