Dr. Love Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 In Memoriam: John K. McLaughlin 2005 Heritage and Diamond to Auction the McLaughlin Collection in Baltimore! 2006 HA still selling McLaughlin Estate items 2010 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Wow, I still own the only comic I ever bought from John at the Book Sail. I always wondered what happened to that store...well, not always, but once in awhile...now I know. Edited December 27, 2014 by tricolorbrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Interesting. Appears McLaughlin had the opportunity to buy some Church books during the time before the catalog was prepared. Still leaves the question as to why he wouldn't have bought the TAR 1 along with the 2 and 3. Of course, there's also the point that whoever consigned his books to HA had an incentive to label as many as possible pedigree copies. Not to say that they weren't all correctly labeled; let's assume that they were. Still I wonder if CGC accepted the HA designation as sufficient proof when the buyer sent the books in for grading. Or does CGC have a more comprehensive list of Church copies against which they checked the books? A lot of interesting questions about how pedigree books get verified. As rob_react works on this project, I would guess he will help answer some of these questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1952 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 very interesting story John McLaughin also own lots of Comic OA. 2 Matt Baker Lorna Doone pgs were auctioned in 2006 and lots other Baker OA which maybe also came from John Collection? during 2006-07 many Original Baker pieces pop in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 very interesting story John McLaughin also own lots of Comic OA. 2 Matt Baker Lorna Doone pgs were auctioned in 2006 and lots other Baker OA which maybe also came from John Collection? during 2006-07 many Original Baker pieces pop in the market. Perhaps another indication that McLaughlin was a Baker fan far enough back that it would be plausible that he would have picked up the two TAR issues from Chuck prior to 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveDuin Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The TAR 3 hasn't been cracked out since I picked it up in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The TAR 3 hasn't been cracked out since I picked it up in 2009. Great pick up. Did you also win the TAR 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveDuin Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Unfortunately, I didn't. As you might imagine, I'll follow the discussion on the TAR 3 with some interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Unfortunately, I didn't. As you might imagine, I'll follow the discussion on the TAR 3 with some interest. I think the weight of the evidence is in favor of both books being Church copies. In any event, I don't think there's any chance of CGC revoking the designation at this late date. I'm hoping that in the course of rob_react's Church project we get some greater clarity concerning how CGC decides whether a book is a pedigree copy. I have a feeling, though, that, like their grading criteria, their procedure here will remain shrouded in mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveDuin Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Anyone who owns Church books -- or thinks they do -- benefits from more clarity about where those comics have been since they left the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Interesting. Appears McLaughlin had the opportunity to buy some Church books during the time before the catalog was prepared. Still leaves the question as to why he wouldn't have bought the TAR 1 along with the 2 and 3. Of course, there's also the point that whoever consigned his books to HA had an incentive to label as many as possible pedigree copies. Not to say that they weren't all correctly labeled; let's assume that they were. Still I wonder if CGC accepted the HA designation as sufficient proof when the buyer sent the books in for grading. Or does CGC have a more comprehensive list of Church copies against which they checked the books? A lot of interesting questions about how pedigree books get verified. As rob_react works on this project, I would guess he will help answer some of these questions. It may have been as simple as John already having a copy of # 1....... or that Chuck had the # 1's in a separate area. One thing easy to forget, also, is the value of a dollar in 1977. For example .... $ 10 would get you two large combination Pizzas AND a six pack of Budweiser. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Interesting. Appears McLaughlin had the opportunity to buy some Church books during the time before the catalog was prepared. Still leaves the question as to why he wouldn't have bought the TAR 1 along with the 2 and 3. Of course, there's also the point that whoever consigned his books to HA had an incentive to label as many as possible pedigree copies. Not to say that they weren't all correctly labeled; let's assume that they were. Still I wonder if CGC accepted the HA designation as sufficient proof when the buyer sent the books in for grading. Or does CGC have a more comprehensive list of Church copies against which they checked the books? A lot of interesting questions about how pedigree books get verified. As rob_react works on this project, I would guess he will help answer some of these questions. It may have been as simple as John already having a copy of # 1....... or that Chuck had the # 1's in a separate area. One thing easy to forget, also, is the value of a dollar in 1977. For example .... $ 10 would get you two large combination Pizzas AND a six pack of Budweiser. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Those were the days ... when I could eat that stuff without immediately gaining five pounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Congrats on the PR 14. I don't think I've ever seen that cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicjack Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks, gents. It's definitely a toughie, with no copies on the census. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. That is exactly what my wife's mom said to her...except substitute comic dealer for gambler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. That is exactly what my wife's mom said to her...except substitute comic dealer for gambler. Well, Mom's do know about this sort of thing .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. That is exactly what my wife's mom said to her...except substitute comic dealer for gambler. Well, Mom's do know about this sort of thing .... ...especially when it comes to cheap and low-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last one I needed to complete my Pictorial Romances run. That is exactly what my wife's mom said to her...except substitute comic dealer for gambler. Well, Mom's do know about this sort of thing .... ...especially when it comes to cheap and low-down And then your wife's Mom saw the Action 15 cover and all was forgiven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
