Ryan. Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 9:50 PM, Point Five said: There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? Definitely possible. Baker also drew the majority of these covers while he was in his 30s and, for his own reasons, unmarried, so it may have felt more authentic to him to draw people closer to his own age. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 9:50 PM, Point Five said: There's definitely a conversation to be had about why e.g. the couples on the covers of St. John titles like Teen-Age Romances and the above Going Steady look like their ages are skewing to late 20s (charitably) or 30s. My guess has long been that if teenagers to college students were buying romance comics, St. John/Baker tried to make the covers more 'aspirational' by making the characters slightly more mature and sophisticated. But that's just a guess. Thoughts? editor was a dirty old man Point Five, jimjum12 and PeterPark 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 4:02 PM, Funnybooks said: editor was a dirty old man "Nah Matt, do it more like Teen-age Temptations 2...that was the BEST!" Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plady69 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 12:59 PM, Ryan. said: Definitely possible. Baker also drew the majority of these covers while he was in his 30s and, for his own reasons, unmarried, so it may have felt more authentic to him to draw people closer to his own age. Another good point. Firing up the pipe again… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofsilver Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 All good thoughts, but I like Point Five’s best. When I was pre-teen and teenager, one of my greatest drivers was to be older. The perceived freedom, the things one would be able to own (eg. cars and motorcycles), and the fulfillment of new desires was strong. Seeing older guys with their cars, girlfriends and no parents involved was intoxicating. Baker’s older couples also fit with the perception I have of teen and twenties people in movies of the era as just looking older. Bacall was 16 in her first roll with Bogart, I believe. Did not look it. Just 2 cents. Point Five and plady69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorick Posted December 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2022 Chief1332, PeterPark, Point Five and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 St. John Matt Baker covers with older looking characters are mostly, if not all, from the time when the Comics Code Authority was coming into play. The obvious examples are from late 1954 onward, after the Senate hearings in April and June of ’54. Matt was a pro and delivered what his clients ordered. He probably wouldn’t begin to age cover characters on a whim. More likely, St. John was avoiding trouble by having Baker depict people in such a way that they couldn’t possibly be mistaken for young teen-agers. Situations on Baker covers during that period are clearly college or young adult oriented. No more promiscuous, trash talking teens on the beach! comicnoir, Professor K, Dr. Love and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 MyComicShop has one?!! Spoiler Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Another triumph for Matt. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/romance/diary-secrets-26-st-john-1954-cgc-vg-45-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122301-11373.s?type=bidnotice-dailystatus PeterPark, Point Five, szav and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief1332 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 3:50 PM, comicnoir said: Another triumph for Matt. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/romance/diary-secrets-26-st-john-1954-cgc-vg-45-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122301-11373.s?type=bidnotice-dailystatus Love that cover comicnoir and comicjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 3:50 PM, comicnoir said: Another triumph for Matt. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/romance/diary-secrets-26-st-john-1954-cgc-vg-45-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122301-11373.s?type=bidnotice-dailystatus Wow. I'm feelin' good about the 4.0 that just came home from CGC. The one I paid $9 for. pmpknface, PeterPark and comicnoir 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Quite a difference compared to the 6.5 price... PeterPark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 12:01 PM, manetteska said: Quite a difference compared to the 6.5 price... that might be softer also due to the color saturation comicnoir, Point Five, szav and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 2:06 PM, Changer said: On 1/12/2023 at 2:01 PM, manetteska said: Quite a difference compared to the 6.5 price... Expand that might be softer also due to the color saturation I agree; if the settings are the same for each, it's night and day (and that's why I didn't bid on this copy). However, how much (what %) did the color play into the price difference? What other factors (comic market, $ market, specific notes, etc) played into it? Ultimately, GPA is going to show two prices, two grades, and two dates, and that's it. Chief1332 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 And we're off to the races. First day. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/adventure/seven-seas-comics-4-davis-crippen-d-copy-pedigree-universal-phoenix-feature-1947-cgc-nm-92-off-white-to-white-pages/a/40216-81340.s?ic2=mybidspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyBids-101116 Changer, Point Five, szav and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The seller on the eBay heavily conserved CL25 has come down from 10k to 4K. It’s not for me, but with blue label 4.5s going close to 15k maybe it’s about as low as anyone’ll get one again dunno. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255929882916?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220706173935%26meid%3D59f963a9a3b94471a9f9fdc55ed0abef%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D255929882916%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Abd8225f3-96ba-11ed-ba36-c262c5b4dbdf|parentrq%3Ac1f66cc51850a0acce8208b8fff93da0|iid%3A1 Chief1332 and Changer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 5:02 PM, szav said: The seller on the eBay heavily conserved CL25 has come down from 10k to 4K. It’s not for me, but with blue label 4.5s going close to 15k maybe it’s about as low as anyone’ll get one again dunno. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255929882916?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220706173935%26meid%3D59f963a9a3b94471a9f9fdc55ed0abef%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D255929882916%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Abd8225f3-96ba-11ed-ba36-c262c5b4dbdf|parentrq%3Ac1f66cc51850a0acce8208b8fff93da0|iid%3A1 Isn't there a blue label 1.8 being shopped around everywhere on social media? Or is it this 1.8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EdMann2 Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 Man... I'm glad I bought mine when I did. And I thought paying $250 for this was crazy at the time (maybe 8-10 years ago)... comicjack, OtherEric, manetteska and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 7:30 PM, EdMann2 said: Man... I'm glad I bought mine when I did. And I thought paying $250 for this was crazy at the time (maybe 8-10 years ago)... I was just a dummy 8-10 years ago, buying X-Men #4 for $1 each. I had to pay/trade way more for my copy, but I'm very glad I have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 5:30 PM, EdMann2 said: Geraldine Pedigree! Tri-Color Brian and Chief1332 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
