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[Aasparky1000]

What happened with action 7? biggest move percentage wise

[ChasingKingKirby]

What are your thoughts on the two Timely "All" series? Is All Winners 1 always going to be a "no respect" Timely. It is a very early Simon Cap appearance that very few collectors seem to care about. Market spoken?

 

As far as All Select, seems like 4 is the toughest of the run, what say you?

all winners has languished in lack of respect increasing price wise, for a long time now...not sure anything will change that.... it is a cool book and a must for serious ga timely collectors...

 

I found as 4 early on, and had most trouble with 3 and 5... but those 3 seems to be in the "difficult" category, and as is the case with most ga titles, specific issues seem cyclical in their availability

I wonder why All Winners has languished in lack of respect increasing price wise?

it is all relative...pre internet, it was a much bigger book...reflected as such in the price guide... in today's market environment, it just doesn't command the "relative" prices that it's timely counterparts do...

 

But why?

 

Lackluster cover. If All Winners #1 was sporting the cover to All Select #1, it would be twice the price it is now.

 

Bedrock already knows the answer but for any that don't and care to know...Days past it was a timely #1...that got it some pg cred. As west said, in today's slabbed cover centric focus, it has fallen behind.

 

Thanks for the insight guys. The cover is somewhat lackluster, but isn't everything non-Schomburg?

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

[G.A.tor]

What was my list last year

 

2.0

A list might look something like this

Action 1....200-225+

Tec 27...150-175+

Superman 1...60-70+

Action 7....50-60k

Tec 31...30-35k

Batman 1...30k

Pep 22...30k

Captain America 1 ...25k-30k

Marvel 1...25k

All American 16...20k

 

Here's your list from last year on 4/22/13

 

So someone actually asked me to give Approx "value" to each of my top ten in 2.0 so here goes. Keep in mind I am giving a range b.c as we know not all 2.0s are created equal!

 

1) action 1....175-200k

2) detective 27...150-175k

3) superman 1...50-70k

4) batman 1...20-25k

5) captain America 1...20-25k

6) pep 22...20-25k

7) action 7...20-25k

8) detective 31...20-22k

9) marvel 1...20-22k

10) all American 16...15-17k

 

G.A.tor's 2013 and 2014 Rankings

 

Action #1..............175-200K -- 200-225K.........+25K

Tec #27................150-175K -- 150-175K..........+0

Superman #1.........50-70K -- 60-70K................+0-10K

Action #7................20-25K -- 50-60K................+25-30K

Detective #31.........20-22K -- 30-35K................+10-13K

Batman #1..............20-25K -- 30K.....................+5-10K

Pep #22..................20-25K -- 30K.....................+5-10K

Cap #1....................20-25K -- 25-30K...............+5K

Marvel #1................20-22K -- 25K....................+3-5K

All-American #16....15-17K -- 20K....................+3-5K

 

 

Seem about right?

Great detective work. At least I'm somewhat consistent

[G.A.tor]

What happened with action 7? biggest move percentage wise

Pent up demand finally stepping up relative to the minimal supply

[G.A.tor]

What are your thoughts on the two Timely "All" series? Is All Winners 1 always going to be a "no respect" Timely. It is a very early Simon Cap appearance that very few collectors seem to care about. Market spoken?

 

As far as All Select, seems like 4 is the toughest of the run, what say you?

all winners has languished in lack of respect increasing price wise, for a long time now...not sure anything will change that.... it is a cool book and a must for serious ga timely collectors...

 

I found as 4 early on, and had most trouble with 3 and 5... but those 3 seems to be in the "difficult" category, and as is the case with most ga titles, specific issues seem cyclical in their availability

I wonder why All Winners has languished in lack of respect increasing price wise?

it is all relative...pre internet, it was a much bigger book...reflected as such in the price guide... in today's market environment, it just doesn't command the "relative" prices that it's timely counterparts do...

 

But why?

 

Lackluster cover. If All Winners #1 was sporting the cover to All Select #1, it would be twice the price it is now.

 

Bedrock already knows the answer but for any that don't and care to know...Days past it was a timely #1...that got it some pg cred. As west said, in today's slabbed cover centric focus, it has fallen behind.

 

Thanks for the insight guys. The cover is somewhat lackluster, but isn't everything non-Schomburg?

There are some pretty cool al a covers

[ciorac]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

[dem1138]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

[Chicago Boy]

fun to read the $ differentials . Thanks for posting! what's the all star 3 incident that's cringe worthy??

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

the detective 1, too...trent split that one.... the crippen all star 3 was done by a potential customer...

[G.A.tor]

fun to read the $ differentials . Thanks for posting! what's the all star 3 incident that's cringe worthy??

mylar induced spine split

[MrBedrock]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

[thunsicker]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

Well at least it was the DC's that were ruined. This story makes me cry.

[MrBedrock]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

Well at least it was the DC's that were ruined. This story makes me cry.

When Greg walked over and told me the news he was stunned and ashen. I think he cried later.

[goldust40]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

Well at least it was the DC's that were ruined. This story makes me cry.

When Greg walked over and told me the news he was stunned and ashen. I think he cried later.

 

Don't blame him.

[adamstrange]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

Well at least it was the DC's that were ruined. This story makes me cry.

When Greg walked over and told me the news he was stunned and ashen. I think he cried later.

 

A couple of those were for me. At first I thought he was kidding me when he told me what happened.

[MrBedrock]

Dear Gator,

 

I remember hearing about a dealer once taking out a brittle paged book to show a potential customer at a con and to their horror, upon opening the book, the pages started to split.

 

What's the worst thing you've seen happen to a prized book in your personal experience?

I remember seeing a can of soda dropped on a pile of books at a con. I believe most were sa keys

 

your all star 3 incident still makes me cringe

 

The worst thing I ever saw was at a Philly con in the 80s. Jay Maybruck was particularly sniffly that day (which seemed odd to me as a teenager who was watching Miami Vice) and in an angry mood. He bumped into his wall of books and most of them came tumbling down. I remember not feeling very sorry for him but expecting a huge explosion of anger. He was pretty mad.

When Greg Buls first put the Circle 8 collection out for sale at a San Diego show in the early '90s I pulled an entire long box of DCs, Quality and Archie comics. Beautiful runs of mid to late '50s of titles like Plastic Man, Black Hawk, House of Mystery and Archie. He had just purchased the collection and most of the books had not been bagged yet, much less priced. He priced the books that night and the next morning they were ready for me. The total was north of $10K, which was fair for over two hundred beautiful pedigree condition comics. But as he was getting ready for the day he accidentally dumped a whole Big Gulp size drink off of the edge of his table into the box! Almost all of the comics were soaked. We were able to salvage about fifteen books. It was a huge bummer all around.

 

Well at least it was the DC's that were ruined. This story makes me cry.

When Greg walked over and told me the news he was stunned and ashen. I think he cried later.

 

A couple of those were for me. At first I thought he was kidding me when he told me what happened.

The way he explained it to me later was that he and Greg Harris were restocking his table stock boxes that morning. Harris had pulled all of the boxes forward so he could see better what was needed. Buls was behind the table getting stuff in order and put his drink down on the back side of the table vacated by the forward boxes. Harris left to go do something and Buls went around to the front to push the boxes back into place, forgetting that his big drink was still back there. The box of Circle 8 books just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Vision75]

Wow. These are tough stories. Another rather recent story, albeit not at a con, was that Action 1 (insulation copy) that got ripped almost in two by an inlaw

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/man-finds-priceless-comic-wall-home-article-1.1352018