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On 4/18/2022 at 7:39 PM, ganni said:

Miscut???

Bought this new back in the 80s.

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I think I have one that was bound upside down. I know I have a few that were cut short at the bottom, not one that was cut short at the side though. Yet again proves that inserts and covers were cut before getting the final trim. Makes one wonder how many books which CGC has deemed as trimmed covers truly are and how many are simply miscuts. hm

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On 4/19/2022 at 3:33 AM, trademarkcomics said:

I have all of the Pizzazz variants, 30 cent & 35 cent price variants, I have a Bose wrap in my 262 and I have a CGC 9.8 of the #245 Bubblicious variant, but once you get past the MJI era, all I look for is newsstands(which I have an extensive collection of, including Australian price variants of 361-363). But inserts post-1992 just don't thrill me.

I know what you mean about the later ones. There's nothing for it then - you're going to have go to go for Canadian and pence copies :grin:

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On 4/19/2022 at 4:56 PM, trademarkcomics said:

Got 124! ^^
 

Received it. It's in great shape. But it has a major miswrap and I was wondering if anyone else has seen this? It has a back cover overhang that shows what looks like the edge of a cover to a completely different book. I found another CGC graded one to confirm that this was also on other 124s. Anyone wanna hazard a grade? Most of the wear on the book is from the overhang/miscut on the back. I just want to...I won't even think it...lol.

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I've not been able to get any kind of response from the 'Ask CGC' people, maybe someone here knows. When CGC slabs comics with the MJ insert, do they always note it on the label, or just for certain comics?

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On 4/23/2022 at 5:42 PM, Gaard said:

I've not been able to get any kind of response from the 'Ask CGC' people, maybe someone here knows. When CGC slabs comics with the MJ insert, do they always note it on the label, or just for certain comics?

They should always, if they don't, its assumed to not have it, so always (thumbsu

 

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/353862095962?hash=item5263d3145a:g:4IAAAOSw01th5Z14

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234168379764?hash=item368585e974:g:XlsAAOSwl25hMBW8

Here's a couple examples of slabs for sale that are advertised as having the MJ insert, but the label doesn't say anything about it. I, personally own a slab that I know to be a MJ, yet there is no mention of it on the label.

I'm so confused.

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On 4/23/2022 at 12:44 PM, trademarkcomics said:

Received it. It's in great shape. But it has a major miswrap and I was wondering if anyone else has seen this? It has a back cover overhang that shows what looks like the edge of a cover to a completely different book. I found another CGC graded one to confirm that this was also on other 124s. Anyone wanna hazard a grade? Most of the wear on the book is from the overhang/miscut on the back. I just want to...I won't even think it...lol.

 

I've seen covers that look like they have a little bit of a different cover on them in the past, not necessarily a ASM 124.  But it's not that uncommon on books from the 70's and earlier in my experience.  I don't know the exact details on printing to explain it, other than they're printing different books at the same time.

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On 4/23/2022 at 5:33 PM, Gaard said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353862095962?hash=item5263d3145a:g:4IAAAOSw01th5Z14

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234168379764?hash=item368585e974:g:XlsAAOSwl25hMBW8

Here's a couple examples of slabs for sale that are advertised as having the MJ insert, but the label doesn't say anything about it. I, personally own a slab that I know to be a MJ, yet there is no mention of it on the label.

I'm so confused.

Three things come to mind here: #1- The sellers you point out are mass sellers so they could simply be typos, #2- I would assume that if there was any question in the grader's mind about the legitimacy of the insert and whether or not it's original or married from another copy, they would simply not list it on the label rather than put "Married Mark Jeweler's Insert." and #3- CGC is not perfect.

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On 4/24/2022 at 4:26 AM, trademarkcomics said:

After some investigating on Mike's Amazing World(love that site!), I found the book it connected to: Justice League #107.

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lol.

Excellent work, TM! Love it :cloud9:

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On 4/24/2022 at 4:34 AM, trademarkcomics said:
On 4/24/2022 at 1:33 AM, Gaard said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353862095962?hash=item5263d3145a:g:4IAAAOSw01th5Z14

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234168379764?hash=item368585e974:g:XlsAAOSwl25hMBW8

Here's a couple examples of slabs for sale that are advertised as having the MJ insert, but the label doesn't say anything about it. I, personally own a slab that I know to be a MJ, yet there is no mention of it on the label.

I'm so confused.

Three things come to mind here: #1- The sellers you point out are mass sellers so they could simply be typos, #2- I would assume that if there was any question in the grader's mind about the legitimacy of the insert and whether or not it's original or married from another copy, they would simply not list it on the label rather than put "Married Mark Jeweler's Insert." and #3- CGC is not perfect.

I think the design intention is for the insert to be noted on the label when present but CGC sometimes miss it, just as they occasionally miss other salient aspects and features when labelling. 

When I was collecting inserts, I would often see MJI eBay listings but on contacting the seller was advised that the book did not have it. Some sellers use previous listings to create new ones and then forget to remove the description wording that doesn't apply. It was always better to check, if there wasn't any internal photos / evidence (although I'd dive in on faith if I saw the star stamp on a BIN for fear that someone else might snag it while I was querying!). 

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On 5/1/2022 at 9:45 PM, trademarkcomics said:

I'm just five away from the entire collection! 160, 164, 167, 174, 181.

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