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[trademarkcomics]

First post. I’ve been a collector for nearly 4 decades and I just reached 90% of Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers inserts and was wondering if any of you have seen any of these particular issues:

#105, 124 and 298. I believe both 105 and 298 didn’t have them as I cannot find ANY records of them being in the entire line of Marvel comics from that month(either through Terapeak, GPA , Google or MCS).

#124 is a mystery as I can find MJIs in Marvels that month but there are zero records of a #124 being sold with the insert. And if you are aware of any other ASM issues(other than giant sized obviously) that didn’t have them I would much appreciate the info. Thank you for any help you can provide. 

Edited March 27, 2022 by trademarkcomics
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[ADAMANTIUM]

On 3/26/2022 at 11:29 PM, trademarkcomics said:

First post. I’ve been a collector for nearly 4 decades and I just reached 90% of Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers inserts and was wondering if any of you have seen any of these particular issues:

#105, 124 and 298. I believe both 105 and 298 didn’t have them as I cannot find ANY records of them being in the entire line of Marvel comics from that month(either through Terapeak, GPA , Google or MCS).

#124 is a mystery as I can find MJIs in Marvels that month but there are zero records of a #124 being sold with the insert. And if you are aware of any other ASM issues(other than giant sized obviously) that didn’t have them I would much appreciate the info. Thank you for any help you can provide. 

Welcome to the boards! I forget who had the most, or almost all, to tag and ask. I want to say @onlyweaknesskryptonite has a better memory than I, at this moment. I want to say it was @Cpt Kirk  

 

[Stronguy]

On 2/28/2022 at 11:01 AM, Cpt Kirk said:

Since Jewelers were mostly exclusively sold in military PXs

In the nearly 25 years of MJI research I've done, I've never heard of any official, off-base point of sale.  There possibly could have been someone who worked a deal with someone in the PX/BX systems but that would have been shady and likely criminal.

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 3/27/2022 at 12:29 AM, trademarkcomics said:

First post. I’ve been a collector for nearly 4 decades and I just reached 90% of Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers inserts and was wondering if any of you have seen any of these particular issues:

#105, 124 and 298. I believe both 105 and 298 didn’t have them as I cannot find ANY records of them being in the entire line of Marvel comics from that month(either through Terapeak, GPA , Google or MCS).

#124 is a mystery as I can find MJIs in Marvels that month but there are zero records of a #124 being sold with the insert. And if you are aware of any other ASM issues(other than giant sized obviously) that didn’t have them I would much appreciate the info. Thank you for any help you can provide. 

@awe4one

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/27/2022 at 5:29 AM, trademarkcomics said:

First post. I’ve been a collector for nearly 4 decades and I just reached 90% of Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers inserts and was wondering if any of you have seen any of these particular issues:

#105, 124 and 298. I believe both 105 and 298 didn’t have them as I cannot find ANY records of them being in the entire line of Marvel comics from that month(either through Terapeak, GPA , Google or MCS).

#124 is a mystery as I can find MJIs in Marvels that month but there are zero records of a #124 being sold with the insert. And if you are aware of any other ASM issues(other than giant sized obviously) that didn’t have them I would much appreciate the info. Thank you for any help you can provide. 

Here are my old Spidey MJI and NDS summaries.

I never found an ASM #124 myself and #105 and #298 were widely agreed as to not exist:

  

[Stronguy]

On 3/27/2022 at 2:29 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

FWIW, I was going back through the notes of that big OO collection I bought in 2000.  I have 163 noted as having the same insert as 162 and 164.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/28/2022 at 5:54 PM, Stronguy said:

FWIW, I was going back through the notes of that big OO collection I bought in 2000.  I have 163 noted as having the same insert as 162 and 164.

Cheers - I think it did turn up, that one and may even have been noted in this thread. Not so sure about 149 though. 

[Get Marwood & I]

....from an old sales thread here:

[Get Marwood & I]

Done a bit of digging - should've done that first really, I suppose, and found...

 

 

 

No actual pictorial evidence, but it's a start...

 

[Stronguy]

@Get Marwood & I
This is the list of ASMs from the OO collection I bought back in 2000.  The list seems to match up with what you have.  These are my original notes about the inserts before I knew a lot about them so just use it for reference of changes, should you want to.  Ones without notation (2nd column) did not have inserts.

103        12/71
104        1/72
105        2/72
106    bl4    3/72
107    bl4    4/72
108    bl    5/72
109    bl    6/72
111    bl2    8/72
112        9/72
113        10/72
114    bk    11/72
115    bk    12/72
116    bl2    1/73
117    bl2    2/73
118    bl2    3/73
119    bl2    4/73
120        5/73
121        6/73
122        7/73
123    bk2    8/73
125    bk2    10/73
126    bk2    11/73
127    bk2    12/73
130    bl6    3/74
133    bl6    6/74
134    bl6    7/74
135        8/74
136        9/74
137        10/74
138        11/74
139        12/74
140        1/75
142        3/75
144        5/75
145    bl3    6/75
146    bl3    7/75
147    bl3    8/75
148    bl3    9/75
150    bl3    11/75
151    bl3    12/75
152    g    1/76
153    g    2/76
154    g    3/76
155        4/76
156    g    5/76
157    g    6/76
158    g    7/76
159    g    8/76
160    g    9/76
161    g    10/76
162    g    11/76
163    g    12/76
164    g    1/77
165    g    2/77
166    g    3/77
167    g    4/77
168    g    5/77
169    g    6/77
170    r    7/77
171    r    8/77
172    r    9/77
173    r    10/77
174    r    11/77
175    r    12/77
176    r    1/78
177    r    2/78
178    r    3/78
179    r    4/78
180    gr    5/78
181    gr    6/78
182    gr    7/78
183    gr    8/78
184    gr    9/78
185    gr    10/78
186    gr    11/78
187    gr    12/78
189        2/79
190        3/79
 

[trademarkcomics]

On 3/27/2022 at 12:29 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Here are my old Spidey MJI and NDS summaries.

I never found an ASM #124 myself and #105 and #298 were widely agreed as to not exist:

  

Excellent information! Thanks so much! I am even closer to collecting them all now…

 

 

 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/28/2022 at 9:57 PM, Stronguy said:

@Get Marwood & I
This is the list of ASMs from the OO collection I bought back in 2000.  The list seems to match up with what you have.  These are my original notes about the inserts before I knew a lot about them so just use it for reference of changes, should you want to.  Ones without notation (2nd column) did not have inserts.

Good match isn't it - it helps to indicate how comparatively scarce certain issues were, if collectors had the same gaps

On 3/29/2022 at 4:49 AM, trademarkcomics said:

Excellent information! Thanks so much! I am even closer to collecting them all now…

You're welcome. They're lovely books, and a very satisfying run to collect. I loved how the early cardstock ones felt in hand, like they had their own built in backing board. Good and solid. 

Here are the tables I put together for the 'slick' and 'coloured' versions (for want of better descriptions) - I'm not sure I ever established whether Spidey #180 existed with cardstock and slick - my copy was slick - or whether the cardstock to slick crossover was at the end of the print run of #179. It's a long time ago now, but there was some aspect that made me think there might be - a cardstock in another title of the same month maybe. Probably erroneous, though.

Good luck collecting them all 

[Cpt Kirk]

On 3/27/2022 at 3:20 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

@awe4one

I agree it is @awe4one.   And it appears as if @Get Marwood & I has got a great handle on it.  I don't collect Marvel MJ's.   But if you are interested in DC MJ's and want to know more, I'm your guy.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Cpt Kirk

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/29/2022 at 12:24 PM, Cpt Kirk said:

I agree it is @awe4one.   And it appears as if @Get Marwood & I has got a great handle on it.  I don't collect Marvel MJ's.   But if you are interested in DC MJ's and want to know more, I'm your guy.

I picked a bit up on my Spidey completism travels, but awe4one is definitely the man on these. And Stronguy has clearly studied them well too. 

@trademarkcomics - here's the link to his site, if you don't already have it:

http://www.awe4one.com/NDS-MJ Inserts/Insert webpage.html

[Stronguy]

Just filled up the last box...
... time for another box.

[trademarkcomics]

On 3/28/2022 at 10:13 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Done a bit of digging - should've done that first really, I suppose, and found...

 

 

 

No actual pictorial evidence, but it's a start...

 

Actually, that IS pictorial evidence. Most are not aware but I picked up on this little known aspect of MJIs; they apparently were bound by different machines(as were all books with inserts, Tattooz, Pizzazz, etc) than their regular counterparts. The bottom staples are often(but not always, there are definitely exceptions) higher up. If you don't believe me, try looking for a #124 with a staple in a different location than just under Spidey's foot(trust me, I have...).

I took the pic you provided and compared it to a CGC graded copy.

[ganni]

The game is afoot!

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/30/2022 at 12:10 AM, trademarkcomics said:

Actually, that IS pictorial evidence. Most are not aware but I picked up on this little known aspect of MJIs; they apparently were bound by different machines(as were all books with inserts, Tattooz, Pizzazz, etc) than their regular counterparts. The bottom staples are often(but not always, there are definitely exceptions) higher up. If you don't believe me, try looking for a #124 with a staple in a different location than just under Spidey's foot(trust me, I have...).

I took the pic you provided and compared it to a CGC graded copy.

Blimey, that's a new one on me TM! 

I just checked two of my old Spidey MJIs at random (134 & 147) and you seem to be spot on with this observation:

I love it when you think you know everything about something and then someone comes along with something new.

Brilliant! 

[Get Marwood & I]

@Cpt Kirk Is that staple alignment a DC thing too, Cap?

[trademarkcomics]

On 3/30/2022 at 4:44 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

@Cpt Kirk Is that staple alignment a DC thing too, Cap?

Not in my experience. DC's staples are not nearly as reliable as an indicator. It seems to be a Marvel thing.

 

On 3/30/2022 at 12:40 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Blimey, that's a new one on me TM! 

I just checked two of my old Spidey MJIs at random (134 & 147) and you seem to be spot on with this observation:

 

 

I love it when you think you know everything about something and then someone comes along with something new.

Brilliant! 

No way I would have gotten as far with my MJI collection without noticing that. It happened totally by accident. I bought a book and noticed staple holes above where it was attached and realized it was a married insert. It was then I started noticing all MJIs had different staple locations. As far as not knowing everything when you're an expert. If Einstein lived in the stone age, he might not even have invented the wheel. What we know now took many many minds over many centuries.