Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus 19 19

[Yorick]

On 11/29/2022 at 11:14 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

I didn't know you spoke Dutch, Yorick? Impressive. 

This internet thing is powerful... 

Ik spreek het niet, maar ik typ het.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/29/2022 at 7:30 PM, Yorick said:

This internet thing is powerful... 

Ik spreek het niet, maar ik typ het.

About half past seven. 

[Yorick]

So I was digging around in my piles of comics and ran into this Arnold THORPE & PORTER book...

I was fairly certain that I saw another copy posted by MyComicShop on feebay, but going over to their site I don't see it.  My copy was sold to me (at a higher price) due to some obscure interior artist.  I doubt anyone has heard of the artist, but I'll share a splash.

AND that wasn't the only thing going for it...  I got James Dean on the inside!!

Kind of dumb of me not to have looked through this book back when I grabbed it years ago, but it was very nice to re-discover it!!

Edited November 29, 2022 by Yorick
Sorry guys, can't even get the basic info correct...

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/29/2022 at 7:38 PM, Yorick said:

So I was digging around in my piles of comics and ran into this Arnold THORPE & PORTER book...

I was fairly certain that I saw another copy posted by MyComicShop on feebay, but going over to their site I don't see it.  My copy was sold to me (at a higher price) due to some obscure interior artist.  I doubt anyone has heard of the artist, but I'll share a splash.

AND that wasn't the only thing going for it...  I got James Dean on the inside!!

Kind of dumb of me not to have looked through this book back when I grabbed it years ago, but it was very nice to re-discover it!!

Nice. Baker and Kirby?

The Arnold / T&P thing gets confusing with this title, as I recall. 

[Yorick]

On 11/29/2022 at 11:51 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Nice. Baker and Kirby?

The Arnold / T&P thing gets confusing with this title, as I recall. 

I'm second guessing my second guess....

GCD says it's T&P, but this book says otherwise....

Yeah, Baker and Kirby.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/29/2022 at 7:56 PM, Yorick said:

I'm second guessing my second guess....

GCD says it's T&P, but this book says otherwise....

Yeah, Baker and Kirby.

I think Arnold (Miller) was a T&P line at some point. I've posted about it before, but can't remember where. 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/29/2022 at 8:05 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

I think Arnold (Miller) was a T&P line at some point. I've posted about it before, but can't remember where. 

It was me and you 

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/471133-the-distribution-of-us-published-comics-in-the-uk-1959~1982/?do=findComment&comment=12396936

[Yorick]

On 11/29/2022 at 12:07 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

It was me and you 

We can't even remember a few months ago... 

From Wiki:

Leonard Miller's son Arnold's operation, Arnold Book Company, had been essentially forced out of business by a British backlash against the gory American horror comics it was reprinting. Arnold moved into film production, directing a series of nudist films beginning in 1959. Leonard was against his son's new career, and as a result of their dispute, he ejected Arnold from L. Miller & Son, which became simply L. Miller & Co.

[gadzukes]

On 11/29/2022 at 2:38 PM, Yorick said:

So I was digging around in my piles of comics and ran into this Arnold THORPE & PORTER book...

I was fairly certain that I saw another copy posted by MyComicShop on feebay, but going over to their site I don't see it.  My copy was sold to me (at a higher price) due to some obscure interior artist.  I doubt anyone has heard of the artist, but I'll share a splash.

AND that wasn't the only thing going for it...  I got James Dean on the inside!!

Kind of dumb of me not to have looked through this book back when I grabbed it years ago, but it was very nice to re-discover it!!

This is kind of similar..... the UK Big Shot 2 I just got has a Matt Baker "Camilla" story inside.  Interesting.  A fiction house story in a Big Shot comic

[gadzukes]

I think this is interesting too.

"36 PAGES IN FULL COLOUR"

And yet all the interior pages are blue linework with reddish fills.

Edited November 30, 2022 by gadzukes

[Yorick]

On 11/30/2022 at 12:59 PM, gadzukes said:

UK Big Shot 2

FULL COLOR!  Unlike that "full colour" Jungle!

I don't believe I have any GA UK books with full color.

[Kromak]

Do you know when you buy something and it isn't as nice as you expected it to be? Well, that's not the case here! Quite the contrary actually

The colors on this one doesn't seem to be made through the usual four color printing system, they are too varied and with a nice, smooth transition between the shades:

Batman day:

From vol 2, Jan of 66

Also from vol 2, 1965, that's the second time this cover was used.

And that's also the case here, in the oldest of all, from 64:

[THE_BEYONDER]

A few random pence books to this thread 

[Kromak]

On 1/5/2023 at 2:31 AM, THE_BEYONDER said:

A few random pence books to this thread 

The Silver Surfer one is my favorite

[rakehell]

Got me some Italian Eternals 

Magazine sized. Need the set now. 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 1/11/2023 at 12:43 PM, rakehell said:

Got me some Italian Eternals 

Magazine sized. Need the set now. 

Gli Eterni......

[rakehell]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:23 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Gli Eterni......

Jinkies, Velma, but they're lovely. Didn't know I wanted them until I saw them. Then, of course, I had to have them. Now, of course, I need all 20-whatever issues. 

 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 1/11/2023 at 3:07 PM, rakehell said:

Jinkies, Velma, but they're lovely. Didn't know I wanted them until I saw them. Then, of course, I had to have them. Now, of course, I need all 20-whatever issues. 

 

Gli Eterni......

[gadzukes]

Classic Illustrated Comics 

Kidnapped is 1949 Australian

Deerslayer & Hunchback are 1947 Canadians with Blank Backs & Blank inside covers

Iliad & Time Machine are UK Thorpe & Porter 1950s

Barnaby Rudge is a UK 1949 Published by Amex

 

Edited January 12, 2023 by gadzukes

[Kromak]

Here a comparison between the US, Superman 141 and its Brazilian counterpart, Superman 78, vol °2

The US was published in November of 1960, and the other in June of 1962.

A first glance shows some obvious difference. One is that the the color shades used aren't the same. Pretty much everything shows different tones. From the characters to the background objets, The title doesn't even use the same colors. Speaking of title, note how it is more inclined in the DC publication.
Both shows the publishers logos in the upper left corner. The Ebal logo is its more used logo, that started to be used in the early 50's and would be used until about 1970.  
 
An  obvious difference is the use of typewritten characters instead of handwritten ones. I find surprising how small they were in this edition. Usually the difference isn't quite as big, though I already seem small characters in a few other Ebals.

Another very cool difference is among the logos of the US Code of Ethics and the one from Brazil. The US one is quite big and it is in the usual upper right corner, while the ebal Superman's is far smaller and closer to the central area.

 

The 100% increase in the above picture shows the difference on the line work. For instance, Jor El. Note his eyes, his teeth, etc. The same is truth about Lara, like the orientation of the line in her arm. Note the plant she is carrying, the difference between the leaves.

The above pictures illustrates the differences in the  physical dimensions of both editions.. The ebal is slight bigger and larger (about half centimeter). The Ebal's uses its usual thicker cover, but this one is glossier than the ones most foreign collectors are used to. That used to be more common in older Ebal's like this, compared to the ones from late 60's to 70's.

 

Another cool difference is the presence of toothpaste propaganda Ebal's cover (Creme Dental Eucalol). Very common at the earlier 60's.
The picture bellow also illustrates two subtle differences about the cover's drawing that can be noticed if one pays enough attention. The city in the background, right to Superman's leg, was slightly expanded in Ebal edition, as the blue building is bigger. Probably a consequence of the slight larger width.

 

Obviously, the biggest overall different is the black and white interior of the Brazilian edition, as was the case for everything that Ebal published at the time period. One can easily note the handwritten characters in the balloons of the Brazilian title against the DC publication.

 

Here, comparing the inner pages, it's clear that the bottom margin of Ebal's pages were also dedicated to propaganda, like the cover. Meanwhile, the US edition leaves a big blank margin on the top of each page.

 

A final observation: As can be seen the in the bottom margin, this particular US copy was bought by  Geraldo Cachola, one of the king of comic books in Brazil, probably to be sold to the collector whose name is on the right margin.