Okajima pedigree 25 25

[Sqeggs]

I think I can make out a "5" in the black area next to the "1".

The top of it is sticking out slightly, and theres a bit of a bump in the black lower down.

 

This would jive with the 3X code we were talking about.

 

PS I think its super cool having a female hero comic, from the lone female collector pedigree.

 

For some reason, this aspect of the pedigree never occurred to me before. I suppose for SA there is the Don & Maggie pedigree.

[Robot Man]

She also has GA comics that she bought off the newstand...

[Sqeggs]

She also has GA comics that she bought off the newstand...

 

Were those included in the D&M pedigree when CGC graded the books? I can't quite remember.

[Robot Man]

I believe I have seen a couple comic book Mads stabbed with the notation posted on the boards. I believe she was buying in the late '40s.

[walclark]

I think I can make out a "5" in the black area next to the "1".

The top of it is sticking out slightly, and theres a bit of a bump in the black lower down.

 

This would jive with the 3X code we were talking about.

 

PS I think its super cool having a female hero comic, from the lone female collector pedigree.

 

Was the Denver pedigree amassed by a woman?

[Sqeggs]

I think I can make out a "5" in the black area next to the "1".

The top of it is sticking out slightly, and theres a bit of a bump in the black lower down.

 

This would jive with the 3X code we were talking about.

 

PS I think its super cool having a female hero comic, from the lone female collector pedigree.

 

Was the Denver pedigree amassed by a woman?

 

Yes, I think you are right.

[october]

Here is one that hasn't been posted yet.

 

Code on cover, handwritten arrival date on back in pencil that some loser erased.

 

[miraclemet]

I think I can make out a "5" in the black area next to the "1".

The top of it is sticking out slightly, and theres a bit of a bump in the black lower down.

 

This would jive with the 3X code we were talking about.

 

PS I think its super cool having a female hero comic, from the lone female collector pedigree.

 

Was the Denver pedigree amassed by a woman?

 

Yes, I think you are right.

 

I did not know that! I stand corrected (And I totally forgot about Maggie!))

[Straw-Man]

She also has GA comics that she bought off the newstand...

 

Were those included in the D&M pedigree when CGC graded the books? I can't quite remember.

 

i grabbed this one to have a don and maggie in my g.a. ped type-set. there are several other d&m ec's on the h'tage archives.

 

[Robot Man]

I have a MAD #22 that I got from Don & Maggie in a trade years ago. I traded a couple of Walt Kelly books I believe. I have no documentation of course, but I know where it came from...

[miraclemet]

this lovely raw copy was auctioned last night on Heritage

 

HA had it as FN/VF (Overstreet value $142).

Comp sale would be the Church copy which has changed hands twice since 2013 for an average of about $850.

 

Last nights hammer for the Okajima? $896.

 

From '44 and part of the "camp era" part of the collection it is coded 2M, and has the unusual distinction of being purchased on leap year 2-29-44

 

I was thinking $400-500... way off.

 

[lou_fine]

 

HA had it as FN/VF (Overstreet value $142).

Comp sale would be the Church copy which has changed hands twice since 2013 for an average of about $850.

 

Last nights hammer for the Okajima? $896.

 

I was thinking $400-500... way off.

 

 

Am I missing something here as this appears to be an absolutely astronomical price to to be paying for a mid-grade mid-run non-key book with a long forgotten GA lead character?

 

I could see the Church copy going for that kind of money since it should be high grade as Chuck had it listed as a NM+ in his Mile High catalogue.

 

Actually, the Overstreet value for a F/VF is only $107 since the VF pricing for issue #33 is set at the $142 price. Maybe somebody should tell Heritage.

[Sqeggs]

this lovely raw copy was auctioned last night on Heritage

 

HA had it as FN/VF (Overstreet value $142).

Comp sale would be the Church copy which has changed hands twice since 2013 for an average of about $850.

 

Last nights hammer for the Okajima? $896.

 

From '44 and part of the "camp era" part of the collection it is coded 2M, and has the unusual distinction of being purchased on leap year 2-29-44

 

I was thinking $400-500... way off.

 

 

Are you still updating the list in the first post? Looks like this one is not on that list.

[miraclemet]

Are you still updating the list in the first post? Looks like this one is not on that list.

 

I cant edit the original post (its what 2-3 years old now?)

 

Here's my current list of camp era Okajimas

 

Startling Comics #24 "Okajima" (no code)

Captain Marvel Adventures #28 "Okajima"

Captain Midnight #13 "Okajmia" (no code)

Captain Marvel #31 ("1-26-43") "1H", "Okajima"

Catman #21 "Okajima"

Catman #22 "Okajima 1D"

Human Torch #14 (1-1-?) "1F" or "1J" or "1Y" (most likely)

Sensation #28 "2-19-44 Okajima 2I"

Catman #22 "2-22-44 Okajima 2j"

Air Fighters Comics V2 #7 (2/22/44) "2j"

Crack Comics #33 (2/22/44) "2M"

Black Terror #6 (3/11/44) "2q"

Zip Comics 46 (3/18/44) "2R"

Police Comics #30 (3/18/44) "2R"

Marvel Mystery Comics #55 (3/18/44) "2R"

Prize Comics "3-27-44" "Okajima" "2"

Super Magician v3#1 (3/29/44) "2T"

Captain Aero Comics #15 (V3 #13) (3/29/44) "2T"

Boy Comics #16 (4/1/44) "2u"

Police Comics #31 (4/8/44) "2x"

Fightin' Yank #8 (4/8/44) "2x"

Flash Comics #54 (4/11/44) "2xz (you can see she used the code over, and then corrected it to "z"

Captain Marvel Jr. 19 (4/15/44) "3A"

Captain America Comics 39 (4/20/44) "3D"

Master Comics 51 (4/25/44) "3H"

Jungle Comics 54 (4/29/ 44) "3J"

Shadow Comics V4 #3 (5/6/44) "3m"

Captain America Comics 40 (5/9/44) "3o"

Captain Marvel Jr. 20 (5/16/44) "3q"

Startling Comics #28 (5/23/44) "3R" 

Marvel Mystery Comics 57 (5/24/44) "3R"

Captain Midnight #21(5/24/44) "3R"

Action #74 (5/24/44) "3S"

More Fun Comics 98 (5/29/44) "3T"

Fight Comics #33 (5/29/44) "3T"

Military Comics #31 (5/30/44) "3u"

Ace #88 (5-30-44) "3u"

Rangers Comics #18 (6/3/44) "3w"

Sensation #32 (6-1?-44) "??"

Captain America Comics #41 (6/23/44) "3z"

Mystery Comics 2 (8/9/44) "4o"

Captain Marvel Jr #23 (8-21-44) "4u"

Military Comics #34 (no date) "4xv" no okjajima -script

Shadow Comics v4#7 (9-??-44) "4√" faded okajima -script top left

 

[Sqeggs]

Are you still updating the list in the first post? Looks like this one is not on that list.

 

I cant edit the original post (its what 2-3 years old now?)

 

Here's my current list of camp era Okajimas

 

Startling Comics #24 "Okajima" (no code)

Captain Marvel Adventures #28 "Okajima"

Captain Midnight #13 "Okajmia" (no code)

Captain Marvel #31 ("1-26-43") "1H", "Okajima"

Catman #21 "Okajima"

Catman #22 "Okajima 1D"

Human Torch #14 (1-1-?) "1F" or "1J" or "1Y" (most likely)

Sensation #28 "2-19-44 Okajima 2I"

Catman #22 "2-22-44 Okajima 2j"

Air Fighters Comics V2 #7 (2/22/44) "2j"

Crack Comics #33 (2/22/44) "2M"

Black Terror #6 (3/11/44) "2q"

Zip Comics 46 (3/18/44) "2R"

Police Comics #30 (3/18/44) "2R"

Marvel Mystery Comics #55 (3/18/44) "2R"

Prize Comics "3-27-44" "Okajima" "2"

Super Magician v3#1 (3/29/44) "2T"

Captain Aero Comics #15 (V3 #13) (3/29/44) "2T"

Boy Comics #16 (4/1/44) "2u"

Police Comics #31 (4/8/44) "2x"

Fightin' Yank #8 (4/8/44) "2x"

Flash Comics #54 (4/11/44) "2xz (you can see she used the code over, and then corrected it to "z"

Captain Marvel Jr. 19 (4/15/44) "3A"

Captain America Comics 39 (4/20/44) "3D"

Master Comics 51 (4/25/44) "3H"

Jungle Comics 54 (4/29/ 44) "3J"

Shadow Comics V4 #3 (5/6/44) "3m"

Captain America Comics 40 (5/9/44) "3o"

Captain Marvel Jr. 20 (5/16/44) "3q"

Startling Comics #28 (5/23/44) "3R" 

Marvel Mystery Comics 57 (5/24/44) "3R"

Captain Midnight #21(5/24/44) "3R"

Action #74 (5/24/44) "3S"

More Fun Comics 98 (5/29/44) "3T"

Fight Comics #33 (5/29/44) "3T"

Military Comics #31 (5/30/44) "3u"

Ace #88 (5-30-44) "3u"

Rangers Comics #18 (6/3/44) "3w"

Sensation #32 (6-1?-44) "??"

Captain America Comics #41 (6/23/44) "3z"

Mystery Comics 2 (8/9/44) "4o"

Captain Marvel Jr #23 (8-21-44) "4u"

Military Comics #34 (no date) "4xv" no okjajima -script

Shadow Comics v4#7 (9-??-44) "4√" faded okajima -script top left

 

Great. Thanks for doing this.

[Robot Man]

Okajima camp books have been on fire for quite a while. Coded camp books don't come up for sale very often. Looks like 2 people wanted any example real bad. I remember when the collection surfaced. I saw 50-75 to choose from. I stupidly only bought 3...

[miraclemet]

 

HA had it as FN/VF (Overstreet value $142).

Comp sale would be the Church copy which has changed hands twice since 2013 for an average of about $850.

 

Last nights hammer for the Okajima? $896.

 

I was thinking $400-500... way off.

 

Am I missing something here as this appears to be an absolutely astronomical price to to be paying for a mid-grade mid-run non-key book with a long forgotten GA lead character?

 

I could see the Church copy going for that kind of money since it should be high grade as Chuck had it listed as a NM+ in his Mile High catalogue.

 

Actually, the Overstreet value for a F/VF is only $107 since the VF pricing for issue #33 is set at the $142 price. Maybe somebody should tell Heritage.

 

In the last three years we've seen the camp era Okajima books sell for a premium over other copies, starting with the Boy Comics #16 that sold for $1150, about 5x guide or previous sales.

 

The Okajima pedigree story might be the best pedigree story, and the books from the year(s?) she spent in the internment camp are the centerpiece to the story.

 

Thus the premium... ANY book coming up from this pedigree from '44 is seeing multiple multipliers in their final sale price

[miraclemet]

Okajima camp books have been on fire for quite a while. Coded camp books don't come up for sale very often. Looks like 2 people wanted any example real bad. I remember when the collection surfaced. I saw 50-75 to choose from. I stupidly only bought 3...

 

I remember hearing that when the Ojakimas came to the market it was in the midst of a bit of a backlash against pedigrees (against them having more value than non-pedigrees), thus when you look at Alan's certificates that came with his 1/3 of the collection he was selling the word "pedigree" does not appear.

[Sqeggs]

 

HA had it as FN/VF (Overstreet value $142).

Comp sale would be the Church copy which has changed hands twice since 2013 for an average of about $850.

 

Last nights hammer for the Okajima? $896.

 

I was thinking $400-500... way off.

 

Am I missing something here as this appears to be an absolutely astronomical price to to be paying for a mid-grade mid-run non-key book with a long forgotten GA lead character?

 

I could see the Church copy going for that kind of money since it should be high grade as Chuck had it listed as a NM+ in his Mile High catalogue.

 

Actually, the Overstreet value for a F/VF is only $107 since the VF pricing for issue #33 is set at the $142 price. Maybe somebody should tell Heritage.

 

In the last three years we've seen the camp era Okajima books sell for a premium over other copies, starting with the Boy Comics #16 that sold for $1150, about 5x guide or previous sales.

 

The Okajima pedigree story might be the best pedigree story, and the books from the year(s?) she spent in the internment camp are the centerpiece to the story.

 

Thus the premium... ANY book coming up from this pedigree from '44 is seeing multiple multipliers in their final sale price

 

Had they graded this one and put it in their August signature auction with a suitable write-up, I think it might have gone significantly higher. Ungraded in a Sunday auction wasn't the best way to sell this book, imho.

[Sqeggs]

Okajima camp books have been on fire for quite a while. Coded camp books don't come up for sale very often. Looks like 2 people wanted any example real bad. I remember when the collection surfaced. I saw 50-75 to choose from. I stupidly only bought 3...

 

I remember hearing that when the Ojakimas came to the market it was in the midst of a bit of a backlash against pedigrees (against them having more value than non-pedigrees), thus when you look at Alan's certificates that came with his 1/3 of the collection he was selling the word "pedigree" does not appear.

 

Do we know how many camp books there might be? There are 44 in your list, which I realize is not meant to be complete.