Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 44 44

[drbanner]

Yeah, it doesn't look like a VF to me either but the defects listed in the grader's notes match the book pictured perfectly.

[HighStakesComics]

I honestly don't think CGC would overlook half a dozen instances of pre Marvel chipping and include light interior tanning in the notes.

[Comic Closet]

Yeah, I had it at 4.5.

[VintageComics]

Yeah, it doesn't look like a VF to me either but the defects listed in the grader's notes match the book pictured perfectly.

 

You could easily have those three defects on any copy under NM, though.

 

 

[The Madness]

Damage to the outer slab means nothing. Unless you can switch the label (seam runs across the label so extremely unlikely) or swap the book out of the inner reservoir (virtually impossible without blatant evidence) then this was just a screwed pooch by CGC.

 

We have examined the book closely and don't see any evidence that the slab has been tampered with. The "Minor side edge crack" mentioned in our item listing is not evidence of tampering--it's just a tiny hairline crack about an inch below the upper right corner. Our consignment manager says she'd have to break it open to examine the inner well, but doesn't see anything off about the exterior.

 

Just spoke to CGC and they were very helpful. We are sending the book to CGC to review and determine what happened.

 

[chrisco37]

I've got a pretty fugly 8.0 (old label too!), but it looks nicer than this one.

 

The tanning/browning looks pretty bad (maybe scan settings?). My initial thought was 5.0-5.5.

[drbanner]

Yeah, it doesn't look like a VF to me either but the defects listed in the grader's notes match the book pictured perfectly.

You could easily have those three defects on any copy under NM, though.

True. Does CGC always list light Marvel Chipping in the grader's notes on books like this (VF range books worth < 4-figure$)?

[jaybuck43]

Usually yes.

[Aces]

These are the graders notes in their entirety. Not the same book.

 

Spine Stress Lines

Top Interior Cover Tanning

Whole Book Lite Tanning

 

Atta boy. Jaybuck=Team Player

 

 

Good work

 

How many point will the grader knock down for lite top interior tanning.

 

Say I have a NM/MT book but it has top lite interior tanning. Will it come back as a 9.8 or 9.6?

 

Depends on the amount of tanning, how deep it goes through the paper, what the rest of the book looks like, etc.

 

Impossible to answer.

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

 

[HighStakesComics]

Under the old regime they would note chipping on the label. Hard to believe nowadays they would make no mention of it at all.

[drbanner]

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

I thought they hammered tanning pretty good, but Marvel Chipping not so much.

[Aces]

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

I thought they hammered tanning pretty good, but Marvel Chipping not so much.

 

BUTM should post his awesome BA double cover Hulk here with the insdie cover 9.6 and the outside 9.4/9.2 (I forget) and the overall grade is 8.5 because of tan pages.

 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

I thought they hammered tanning pretty good, but Marvel Chipping not so much.

 

BUTM should post his awesome BA double cover Hulk here with the insdie cover 9.6 and the outside 9.4/9.2 (I forget) and the overall grade is 8.5 because of tan pages.

 

[HighStakesComics]

That is awesome. Highest grade I can sniff out with noticeable chipping is 7.5 though.

[MrBedrock]

Just to put it in perspective-that book is one grade away from a 9.0

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[RockMyAmadeus]

These are the graders notes in their entirety. Not the same book.

 

Spine Stress Lines

Top Interior Cover Tanning

Whole Book Lite Tanning

 

Atta boy. Jaybuck=Team Player

 

 

Good work

 

How many point will the grader knock down for lite top interior tanning.

 

Say I have a NM/MT book but it has top lite interior tanning. Will it come back as a 9.8 or 9.6?

 

Depends on the amount of tanning, how deep it goes through the paper, what the rest of the book looks like, etc.

 

Impossible to answer.

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

 

Which is unreasonable.

[VintageComics]

These are the graders notes in their entirety. Not the same book.

 

Spine Stress Lines

Top Interior Cover Tanning

Whole Book Lite Tanning

 

Atta boy. Jaybuck=Team Player

 

 

Good work

 

How many point will the grader knock down for lite top interior tanning.

 

Say I have a NM/MT book but it has top lite interior tanning. Will it come back as a 9.8 or 9.6?

 

Depends on the amount of tanning, how deep it goes through the paper, what the rest of the book looks like, etc.

 

Impossible to answer.

8.5 is top grade for any book with interior tanning.

 

Again, that's not patently true.

 

It all depends on the type of tanning, how dark it is, how the pages are, what the rest of the book is like, etc. Myriad of factors.

 

If you're talking about Light Tan to Off White pages, generally 8.5 is the limit although there have been the rare 9.0 example.

 

If you're talking about interior cover tanning, it all depends on degree, and I've seen interior cover tanning in varying degrees on books from 9.8 down to low grades.

[Bunky Brian]

How in the world does this go out, without ANYBODY SAY,

 

HOLD UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

WHO OR HOW DID ONE OR TWO OF THREE OF YOU GRADERS

 

 

CALL THIS A 8.0 ?????????

 

 

[comicdonna]

[mschmidt]

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