WONDER WOMAN 2 directed by Patty Jenkins (11/1/19) 3 3

[Comicopolis]

2 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Did the forum upgrade break some formatting structure, as it looks tough to navigate right now.

It's terrible. The column on the right side is twice the size it was on my screen now.

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5 minutes ago, Comicopolis said:

It's terrible. The column on the right side is twice the size it was on my screen now.

I was totally okay with how it was functioning this morning. Now the navigation is very clunky.

[theCapraAegagrus]

16 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

I was totally okay with how it was functioning this morning. Now the navigation is very clunky.

F.

[Bosco685]

12 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

F.

[theCapraAegagrus]

1 minute ago, Bosco685 said:

I can't mark sub-forums as "Read".

Frustration levels over 9,000.

[Bosco685]

 

[paperheart]

flopping in China, "mid $20MM range" vs $40MM est and $38MM launch for WW

Warner Bros/DC’s Wonder Woman 1984, as expected, landed at No. 2 in its China debut on Friday, coming in behind local actioner The Rescue. The Patty Jenkins-helmed sequel to 2017’s Wonder Woman grossed an estimated RMB 44.2M ($7M, including sneaks). This portends a weekend in the mid $20M range for the Middle Kingdom, lower than where the industry was seeing it heading into the session, thus also pushing down the full international box office launch.

Overall, the disappointing China start is looking to set the offshore debut at around $45M, versus the $60M the industry was expecting.

Edited December 18, 2020 by paperheart

[Chaos_in_Canada]

3 hours ago, paperheart said:

flopping in China, "mid $20MM range" vs $40MM est and $38MM launch for WW

Warner Bros/DC’s Wonder Woman 1984, as expected, landed at No. 2 in its China debut on Friday, coming in behind local actioner The Rescue. The Patty Jenkins-helmed sequel to 2017’s Wonder Woman grossed an estimated RMB 44.2M ($7M, including sneaks). This portends a weekend in the mid $20M range for the Middle Kingdom, lower than where the industry was seeing it heading into the session, thus also pushing down the full international box office launch.

Overall, the disappointing China start is looking to set the offshore debut at around $45M, versus the $60M the industry was expecting.

So...$1 Billion Worldwide Box Office is off the table?

 

[Bosco685]

1 hour ago, Chaos_in_Canada said:

So...$1 Billion Worldwide Box Office is off the table?

 

During a pandemic? How'd that work out for Mulan, Disney next huge hit that was going to take the world by storm? Oh yeah. Supposedly it made $500M in Disney+ subscriptions - or whatever number that was made up.

You can't be that daft in the head. Right?

[drotto]

4 hours ago, Chaos_in_Canada said:

So...$1 Billion Worldwide Box Office is off the table?

 

I think 1 billion is off the table for just about anything for at least the next 5 years.

[Bosco685]

 

[Bosco685]

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“Wonder Woman 1984” will get a premium VOD release in the U.K. a month after the film’s premiere, Warner Bros. has confirmed.

 

As revealed exclusively by Variety earlier this month, the studio has taken advantage of a strict emergency COVID window agreed with exhibitors, which has drastically shortened the U.K. theatrical window. However, it appears the studio was unable to hammer out an exclusive deal with Comcast-backed pay-TV operator Sky, as was previously reported. The tentpole will instead be available as a PVOD offering on other outlets.

 

Warners confirmed Saturday that the Gal Gadot-led superhero sequel will be available as a 48-hour rental from Jan. 13, just slightly under a month after the film’s theatrical launch on Dec. 16. It will also remain in cinemas, where they are open, after Jan. 13.

 

[paperheart]

The Warner Bros/DC sequel had a roughly 23% increase in China on Saturday for an estimated $14.2M in the market through today. As we noted yesterday, this is coming in lower than expected with social and critical scores below the previous movie which opened to about $38M and went on to gross $90.5M in the Middle Kingdom. The hoped-for Saturday family bump did not materialize, and this is pushing the full weekend launch down to around $35M at the international box office, give or take.

my prediction that 1984 could approach WW's final total in Asia ($200MM) was wrong; Europe & Latin America, as guessed, will be a problem. spitballing, but $250MM Int'l would be heroic after this start.

[Chaos_in_Canada]

3 minutes ago, paperheart said:

The Warner Bros/DC sequel had a roughly 23% increase in China on Saturday for an estimated $14.2M in the market through today. As we noted yesterday, this is coming in lower than expected with social and critical scores below the previous movie which opened to about $38M and went on to gross $90.5M in the Middle Kingdom. The hoped-for Saturday family bump did not materialize, and this is pushing the full weekend launch down to around $35M at the international box office, give or take.

my prediction that 1984 could approach WW's final total in Asia ($200MM) was wrong; Europe & Latin America, as guessed, will be a problem. spitballing, but $250MM Int'l would be heroic after this start.

 

[Bosco685]

On 12/18/2020 at 3:12 PM, paperheart said:

flopping in China, "mid $20MM range" vs $40MM est and $38MM launch for WW

Warner Bros/DC’s Wonder Woman 1984, as expected, landed at No. 2 in its China debut on Friday, coming in behind local actioner The Rescue. The Patty Jenkins-helmed sequel to 2017’s Wonder Woman grossed an estimated RMB 44.2M ($7M, including sneaks). This portends a weekend in the mid $20M range for the Middle Kingdom, lower than where the industry was seeing it heading into the session, thus also pushing down the full international box office launch.

Overall, the disappointing China start is looking to set the offshore debut at around $45M, versus the $60M the industry was expecting.

Probably better to quote the entire article to complete the story.

‘Wonder Woman 1984’ Now Looking At $35M-$40M Offshore Debut; China Soft & Some Markets Tighten Covid Restrictions

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There is online chatter about marketing not having been sufficient. As we understand it in China, there was a “Power of Wonder” campaign that asked people to share inspirational messages on social, with a chance to win prizes and see the messages used in digital outdoor and bus stop creatives; as well as a virtual premiere event in five cinemas with talent able to speak directly with fans before they watched the film. Special screenings hosted by authors and influencers were also organized to create additional content about the impact this year has had and the “wonder power” needed to get through. But these initiatives have evidently not translated to turnstiles.

 

WW84 is also debuting this weekend in another 31 offshore markets including the UK, Spain, Taiwan, Japan, Brazil and Mexico. Not likely to help matters for the Patty Jenkins-directed superhero pic is the shutdown of cinemas in Mexico City from today for another three weeks. And just within the last few hours, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has issued a new “stay at home” order covering London and much of the south and east of England (cinemas in London were already a no-go zone).

 

As noted yesterday, many in exhibition questioned the international rollout on WW84 given ongoing uncertainty over the pandemic’s effects on movie theaters. Still, also as noted yesterday, it would have been difficult to predict that nearly all of the European majors would be closed down this weekend.

 

Warner Bros will report international box office figures on Sunday, and we’ll report back with more analysis.

 

PREVIOUS, FRIDAY: We hear that subsidized ticketing on The Rescue in China may have negatively impacted WW84 on Friday. In the early hours of Saturday locally, the two films are nearly tied for the day. In terms of pre-sales, WW84 is ahead on Sunday. The hope for Diana Prince is that the family audience comes out over the rest of the weekend.

 

Is piracy a factor here, in that a part of the overseas audience knows the movie will likely be available in a high-quality version once it drops online domestically next week? The jury is out, for the moment, on that, but industry sources tell us it has to be a concern.

That last part is going to be a big challenge for a hybrid release schedule in markets where piracy from streaming is going to have a significant impact.

[piper]

1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

Probably better to quote the entire article to complete the story.

‘Wonder Woman 1984’ Now Looking At $35M-$40M Offshore Debut; China Soft & Some Markets Tighten Covid Restrictions

That last part is going to be a big challenge for a hybrid release schedule in markets where piracy from streaming is going to have a significant impact.

Yep. 

[Bosco685]

Anyone shocked?

 

[media_junkie]

1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

Anyone shocked?

 

So the weakest act of Wonder Woman (Act 3) was studio interference?  Not surprised at all.  

So why exactly is WB known as a "director friendly" studio (at least that is what I keep reading in articles saying that since they are going to streaming 1st run movies in 2021 they will no longer be a "director friendly" studio) when they keep making the directors change their "vision" of the movie?

[Bosco685]

3 minutes ago, media_junkie said:

So the weakest act of Wonder Woman (Act 3) was studio interference?  Not surprised at all.  

So why exactly is WB known as a "director friendly" studio (at least that is what I keep reading in articles saying that since they are going to streaming 1st run movies in 2021 they will no longer be a "director friendly" studio) when they keep making the directors change their "vision" of the movie?

Exactly! WB repeatedly talks of being director' friendly, yet with DC productions like The Flash they go through multiple directors due to 'creative differences' and tampering with productions like Suicide Squad having 6 cuts from a trailer marketing company instead of allowing the director to finish his vision.

[D84]

They were before trying to compete with Marvel's cinematic universe. At that point WB lost their mind trying to play catch up.