Bosco685 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 7:06 PM, kav said: the short films I have directed with non actors its easy to get them in the spirit of the scene. I bet. But you get an Ed Norton on the set telling you he has a better feel for his role and by the way I've updated the -script without your approval but just trust him it will be great including the further updates he will deliver while filming the scenes which he will be late for filming because he is busy typing up all those changes ... kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 6:16 PM, kav said: show, dont tell. Screenplay books are clear on this. "Whats my motivation here?" "You shoot beams out of your eyes!!" Oh my God. What timing! kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 4:11 PM, Bosco685 said: I bet. But you get an Ed Norton on the set telling you he has a better feel for his role and by the way I've updated the --script without your approval but just trust him it will be great including the further updates he will deliver while filming the scenes which he will be late for filming because he is busy typing up all those changes ... addin jellyfish most likely. Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 1:59 PM, Muno42 said: I am afraid of opening this thread at times. Amen. A lot of acrimony. No matter how strongly I may feel a movie is really, really great or equally bad, I still try to respect that others who may feel differently and that's just fine. I can't tell you how many times @kav has posted that he hates the most recent Dune movie and that it's really, really bad. I think he's completely wrong, but that doesn't make him evil (there are other reasons for that ). It just means we disagree. FWIW, I think most (if not all) of you guys posting in this thread would be really fun to have a conversation with IRL about films. A lot of people with similar knowledge and experience with film history. Pretty cool. Muno42 and onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 6:36 PM, Randall Dowling said: Amen. A lot of acrimony. No matter how strongly I may feel a movie is really, really great or equally bad, I still try to respect that others who may feel differently and that's just fine. I can't tell you how many times @kav has posted that he hates the most recent Dune movie and that it's really, really bad. I think he's completely wrong, but that doesn't make him evil (there are other reasons for that ). It just means we disagree. FWIW, I think most (if not all) of you guys posting in this thread would be really fun to have a conversation with IRL about films. A lot of people with similar knowledge and experience with film history. Pretty cool. I saw Dune and stated that I was wrong though. Randall Dowling and Muno42 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 8:39 PM, kav said: I saw Dune and stated that I was wrong though. I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 6:42 PM, Randall Dowling said: I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 4:54 PM, universal soldier said: I've also never read the Eternals books from the 70's only the 12 issue maxi from 1986 so maybe that would have helped? Probably the opposite. Muno42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 "Show, don't tell" is dangerous, because according to some fanatics Zack Snyder is a "bad director" because he uses the visual aspect of the medium to inform the audience. Example: "Superman only has XX lines in BvS." If you observe the senate committee explosion scene, Superman doesn't need to say, "I feel guilty, why is all of this happening wherever I go? I need some time to myself to understand my place in this world." You can see how he feels when the bomb goes off and the aftermath, and then he has a moment of reflection with his father's ghost to motivate him that even with all of the bad that humanity can commit, there is good in this world; Those you choose to surround yourself with show you the light among the anonymous darkness. There are always needs for exposition, but in The Eternals' case, they they relied on it almost exclusively to inform the audience. That's boring, because we don't get to detect anything, since we're being spoon-fed. Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 7:13 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: "Show, don't tell" is dangerous, because according to some fanatics Zack Snyder is a "bad director" because he uses the visual aspect of the medium to inform the audience. Example: "Superman only has XX lines in BvS." If you observe the senate committee explosion scene, Superman doesn't need to say, "I feel guilty, why is all of this happening wherever I go? I need some time to myself to understand my place in this world." You can see how he feels when the bomb goes off and the aftermath, and then he has a moment of reflection with his father's ghost to motivate him that even with all of the bad that humanity can commit, there is good in this world; Those you choose to surround yourself with show you the light among the anonymous darkness. There are always needs for exposition, but in The Eternals' case, they they relied on it almost exclusively to inform the audience. That's boring, because we don't get to detect anything, since we're being spoon-fed. But the actor shoots laser beams out of his eyes (and I think his head too). theCapraAegagrus and kav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 8:10 AM, Bosco685 said: But the actor shoots laser beams out of his eyes (and I think his head too). Cavill seems to have absolutely 0 issues, so IDK what Madden's problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 8:11 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: Cavill seems to have absolutely 0 issues, so IDK what Madden's problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D84 Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 Originally posted in Comic Book Memes by @onlyweaknesskryptonite Larryw7, media_junkie, Artboy99 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I find it funny that the Celestials created these beings and didn't make them fully-functional. Like, one of them literally cannot hear, and you want her/it to defend a planet until one of your kin is born...? Muno42 and D84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelrod Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 9:46 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: I find it funny that the Celestials created these beings and didn't make them fully-functional. Like, one of them literally cannot hear, and you want her/it to defend a planet until one of your kin is born...? No, it didn't really make sense, when they modified the Eternals origins to be this, that that Celestials who "created" them would bother to create Eternals with disabilities. Or one who was perpetually a child even. My suspicion, is that they made this change to the Eternals to allow for the possibility of having Eternals who "died" in this movie be resurrected for later films. Which it seems like they could do if they were all just constructs anyway. But maybe there was something else to it. Like, there must have been a reason. Maybe someone thought thematically it would be more impactful for a group of "constructs" to find their humanity, as opposed to it being just another race of alien beings deciding to rebel against their masters because they liked Earth people. But if that was it then the message fell very flat. They kind of would have had to know they were constructs from the beginning in that case. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) On 1/25/2022 at 7:46 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: I find it funny that the Celestials created these beings and didn't make them fully-functional. Like, one of them literally cannot hear, and you want her/it to defend a planet until one of your kin is born...? just more diversity, and it made no sense at all. Edited January 25, 2022 by Artboy99 Finhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finhead Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 9:27 AM, Artboy99 said: just more diversity. Gotta check those boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 11:31 AM, Finhead said: Gotta check those boxes. Too bad they skipped over the section with boxes for Screenplay, Direction, and Editing Quality. Larryw7, Muno42, D84 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 2:07 PM, theCapraAegagrus said: By his imaginary metric, the theme of every single film is "fear". Iron Man is afraid of being killed by terrorists in a cave. Captain America is afraid of not contributing to winning WWII. Thor is afraid of the Frost Giants invading Asgard. The Avengers are afraid of Thanos decimating half of the universe. Absolutely stupid. What are you talking about? I say "fear" is the theme in Batman Begins because the word is stated and explored by every character and uttered about every ten minutes in the movie. Christopher Nolan basically hits us over the head with the darn word. Christopher Nolan has stated that BB is an exploration of fear. The only time Stark really expresses fear in Iron Man is when he is running from the terrorist ambush of the Marine convoy. Steve Rogers never shows fear in First Avenger, and that's what makes him special. Thor is too egotistical to have any fear of the Frost Giants and that's his problem. Absolutely stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelrod Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 11:27 AM, Artboy99 said: just more diversity, and it made no sense at all. The actual Celestials ARE diverse (I think). I think the one who was deaf was really deaf in the comics, etc. The movie was actually staying true to the comic characters in that sense, and not just "checking boxes." The issue is/was that the Eternals didn't make a whole lot of sense with the backstory that they completely made up for this movie. Finhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
