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On 2/16/2023 at 11:54 AM, batman_fan said:

Just saw my 1st Promise book upgrade !

Definitely not the first time as per my previous comments that it's kudos to Ritter as he shockingly seems to be about the only buyer that's daring or bold enough to even attempt to play the CPR game with these Promise Collection books.  :whatthe:  (thumbsu

Can't quite figure out his Worldwide website though as he's got this Promise copy of Batman 12 indicated as "Sale Pending" at $6,000:  hm

https://www.wwcomics.com/comicdetail.asp?Product_ID=Batman_12_79625

http://images.wwcomics.com/images/medium/Btmn_12_Pro.jpg

Then again, I guess nothing new here as he's also got the Crowley Copy of Power Comics 3 which he picked up from Heritage in CGC 5.5 for $7,800 now also indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC 7.5 for $12K; Superman 2 which he picked up from HA in CBCS 2.5 for $3,840 now indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC 3.0 for $10,500; and the Larson Copy of Science Comics 2 in which he picked up from HA in CGC Restored 8.0 for $21,600 now indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC Universal 7.5 for $42,500.  :applause:

The part which I am a little bit mystified about and find rather interesting is the fact that all 4 of these books are now listed in the current CL Featured Auction which just started today on February 16th.  And yet Ritter was able to "sell" all four of them so quickly, especially considering that they were all graded only as of February 14th and not even in the current CGC Population Census yet.  Okay, I guess I do understand the Sale Pending part, but not sure about the price that he has them listed as being "Sold For" in his website.  (shrug)

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On 2/17/2023 at 3:45 AM, lou_fine said:

Definitely not the first time as per my previous comments that it's kudos to Ritter as he shockingly seems to be about the only buyer that's daring or bold enough to even attempt to play the CPR game with these Promise Collection books.  :whatthe:  (thumbsu

Can't quite figure out his Worldwide website though as he's got this Promise copy of Batman 12 indicated as "Sale Pending" at $6,000:  hm

https://www.wwcomics.com/comicdetail.asp?Product_ID=Batman_12_79625

http://images.wwcomics.com/images/medium/Btmn_12_Pro.jpg

Then again, I guess nothing new here as he's also got the Crowley Copy of Power Comics 3 which he picked up from Heritage in CGC 5.5 for $7,800 now also indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC 7.5 for $12K; Superman 2 which he picked up from HA in CBCS 2.5 for $3,840 now indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC 3.0 for $10,500; and the Larson Copy of Science Comics 2 in which he picked up from HA in CGC Restored 8.0 for $21,600 now indicated as "Sale Pending" in CGC Universal 7.5 for $42,500.  :applause:

The part which I am a little bit mystified about and find rather interesting is the fact that all 4 of these books are now listed in the current CL Featured Auction which just started today on February 16th.  And yet Ritter was able to "sell" all four of them so quickly, especially considering that they were all graded only as of February 14th and not even in the current CGC Population Census yet.  Okay, I guess I do understand the Sale Pending part, but not sure about the price that he has them listed as being "Sold For" in his website.  (shrug)

I have seen books on the WorldWide website show up as "sold" or "sale pending" around the time they showed up in one of CLink's auctions. One of these books "sold" in a CLink auction only to miraculously be in Ritter's possession soon afterward despite never being listed for sale on his site again.

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On 2/17/2023 at 12:21 AM, lou_fine said:

And then there were a few noted long time boardies here who claimed this Promise Collection was an once in a lifetime opportunity and if we didn't go for it, we would end up paying a lot more money for them when they do come back to market.  (:

If Mitch gave out stock market tips, I'd have made a fortune by doing the opposite.

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On 2/17/2023 at 12:45 AM, lou_fine said:

The part which I am a little bit mystified about and find rather interesting is the fact that all 4 of these books are now listed in the current CL Featured Auction which just started today on February 16th.  And yet Ritter was able to "sell" all four of them so quickly, especially considering that they were all graded only as of February 14th and not even in the current CGC Population Census yet.  Okay, I guess I do understand the Sale Pending part, but not sure about the price that he has them listed as being "Sold For" in his website.  (shrug)

If books are being sent to auction, and he wants to post them to his website for history sake, he should mark it Sale Pending/Sold and remove the price.

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On 2/17/2023 at 6:22 AM, jimbo_7071 said:

I have seen books on the WorldWide website show up as "sold" or "sale pending" around the time they showed up in one of CLink's. One of these books "sold" in a CLink auction only to miraculously be in Ritter's possession soon afterward despite never being listed for sale on his site again.

 

Yes, same old, same old, except the train is chugging along in the opposite direction this time from WW to CL.  (:

 

On 2/17/2023 at 9:46 AM, Markentoth said:

If books are being sent to auction, and he wants to post them to his website for history sake, he should mark it Sale Pending/Sold and remove the price.

No real problem with the "Sale Pending" tag from my POV since the books ARE in play and will indeed be sold at the completion of the CL auction. (thumbsu

As for the listed price point, maybe it's all just part of the "laddering process" hoping that it will result in higher bids when the bidders in their crazed FOMO mood toss out their Hail Mary bombs in the dying seconds of the CL auction, of course after taking into consideration the enormous prices which the same books had just recently "sold for" on WW.  :devil:  :takeit:

Actually, a kind of win-win scenario here because even if it doesn't work out in the end, it's still good promo for your own website in that it shows books can perform better on YOUR website, as opposed to live auctions on the CL platform. :bigsmile:

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On 2/16/2023 at 11:45 PM, lou_fine said:

Clearly you must be a long time collector with impeccable taste if you know about long ago forgotten pre-hero books like Comics Magazine 2 and New Comics 2.  :applause:

Sorry to hear that you missed out on the Comics Magazine 2 since that entire run from 1936 is a real toughie to track down.  I remember picking up my mid-grade copy of Comics Magazine 2 over some 15 years ago in a trade with a fellow boardie here (i.e. @CentaurMan) who is sorely missed as he sadly no longer grace these boards to share his wisdom and passion with us anymore.  :(

It was something like mid- grade copies of both the Comics magazine 2 and Adventure 45 for my nice copy of the last issues of Comic Pages since that was one of the last Centaurs which he needed to complete his Centaur collection at the time.  Looking back at the trade now from a strict valuation POV, I probably should have taken the Slightly Restored copy of Detective 18 with the classic Fu Manchu cover instead.  Needless to say, I certainly thought long and hard about it, but that copy simply didn't present that nicely to me since it had a rather "dirty" appearance to it which would have bothered me every time I looked or thought about it.  (shrug)

Hope you was able to pick up the New Comics 2 since you seem to know all about it and have a soft spot for it, along with the fact that it sold for a much lower price point at $1,680 as compared to the Comics Magazine 2 at $2,520.  From my personal POV, probably one of the absolute rarest pre-hero DC books out there, especially when you also factored in the grade.  The CGC Population Census Report would seem to confirm this as it shows a total of only 5 Universal copies graded to date, with the highest graded one being this copy here at a grade of only CGC 2.0:  :luhv:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/platinum-age-1897-1937-/new-comics-2-billy-wright-pedigree-dc-1936-cgc-gd-20-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7054-91110.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515#

Platinum Age (1897-1937):Miscellaneous, New Comics #2 Billy Wright pedigree (DC, 1936) CGC GD 2.0 Off-white to white pages....

No Church copy or any other pedigree copy of this book here besides this Billy Wright copy, so if collectors are hoping to find a nicer higher grade copy of this book to fill the gap in their collection, it might just be an awfully long long wait for one to come around, if ever.  :wishluck:  :taptaptap:  :taptaptap:

I didn’t get this week’s New #2 because I didn’t want to be greedy. I already have a blue 1.5; so it would have been an upgrade but a purple one….it was a tough decision but I let it go. I eventually want get all of the regular sized prehero paper-covered books, but it’s a slow and steady goal (my last pickup was a Comics Magazine/Funny Pages V.1#3 last summer).

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On 2/17/2023 at 6:34 AM, tth2 said:
On 2/16/2023 at 8:21 AM, lou_fine said:

And then there were a few noted long time boardies here who claimed this Promise Collection was an once in a lifetime opportunity and if we didn't go for it, we would end up paying a lot more money for them when they do come back to market.  (:

If Mitch gave out stock market tips, I'd have made a fortune by doing the opposite.

So he's basically the Jim Cramer of the comic world.  Got it! 

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On 2/17/2023 at 8:41 PM, Gotham Kid said:

now changed to

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Definitely a lot more transparent now, but rather surprised that he would feel the need to do this as isn't this really just a part of the whole CPR+ process and as such, be considered as fair game and also something to which we should have all become so accustomed to by now.  hm  (shrug)

Definitely confirms to me that Ritter is really the upstanding and quality dealer which I have heard from so many other fellow collectors by him actually going out and addressing an issue when this question or concern was most likely brought to his attention.  Big kudos to him as a lot of other dealers would have simply ignored the issue and went on their stubborn little merry way hoping that the concern would eventually die down and simply be forgotten over time.  (thumbsu :applause: :applause:

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On 2/17/2023 at 7:06 PM, tth2 said:

Based on the results from the latest Doug's Dell & Gold Key auction on Heritage, it appears as if Duck books are back!  Some really strong prices.

Okay, you actually made me go back and take a look at the results here.  :bigsmile:

Not sure, but is it just me becoming so jaded with all of these high dollar auction results, that I am not really that impressed when I don't see a single book even really getting anywhere close to 5-figures in this auction here?  (shrug)

Then again, I am clearly not a Duck aficionado in any sense of the word, so I'll just have to take your word on it.  From taking a quick glance at just the top performers, I was actually more impressed with the non-Duck books like the Twilight Zone FC #1173 and the Star Trek 58 finishing up at $4,560 and $3,120 respectively, and even the CGC 9.4 graded copy of the Gold Key Green Hornet 1 at $2,640 considering there's another 15 equivalent graded copies along with a further 8 higher graded copies of the book out there.  :applause:

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On 2/18/2023 at 2:49 AM, lou_fine said:

CGC 9.4 graded copy of the Gold Key Green Hornet 1 at $2,640 considering there's another 15 equivalent graded copies along with a further 8 higher graded copies of the book out there.  :applause:

Why would you post the clapping emoji for that? Are you applauding the fact that there are cognitively impaired people in the world who have money to spend on comic books because you're hoping that they'll buy yours some day? :makepoint:

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On 2/18/2023 at 12:09 AM, jimbo_7071 said:

Why would you post the clapping emoji for that? Are you applauding the fact that there are cognitively impaired people in the world who have money to spend on comic books because you're hoping that they'll buy yours some day? :makepoint:

Nah, don't own a copy of any of the Green Hornet books here.  :(

Just nice to see that a relatively common non-GA book like this one here and also in NOT the highest grade still be able to fetch some half decent money.  (thumbsu

Plus, it's also a Bruce Lee photo cover both front and back and you certainly can't go wrong with that. :bigsmile:

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On 2/18/2023 at 4:28 AM, lou_fine said:

Plus, it's also a Bruce Lee photo cover both front and back and you certainly can't go wrong with that. :bigsmile:

I'm tutoring a student who is also studying karate. I mentioned Bruce Lee to him the other day, and he had no idea who that was. He had never heard of Chuck Norris, either. (I'm sure there must be newer martial arts guys that I've never heard of.)

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