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Don Rosa Poll - Pedigree or Collection?

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Don Rosa Poll - Pedigree or Collection  

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  1. 1. Don Rosa Poll - Pedigree or Collection

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Red Hook

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Oh, Rick. Stop being argumentative! 893naughty-thumb.gif Be nice to the people!

 

Mother Red

You better not outbid me. Stay away from it. You hear me!!

 

What's it worth to you....? I just got a new credit card with a HUGE credit limit today. devil.gif

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(Yeah, I'll be dancing all the way to the poorhouse with it! foreheadslap.gif )

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Sal

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Oh, Rick. Stop being argumentative! 893naughty-thumb.gif Be nice to the people!

 

Mother Red

You better not outbid me. Stay away from it. You hear me!!

 

preparing punishment bids now

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deathlok

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Rick, leave the lawyer alone! 893naughty-thumb.gif
Geez, Red you take all the fun out of this.

 

 

 

and stay away from my precious. sumo.gif

 

You really want it, don't you. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

Only because I don't badger other people to sell to me. poke2.gif
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Red Hook

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Rick, leave the lawyer alone! 893naughty-thumb.gif
Geez, Red you take all the fun out of this.

 

 

 

and stay away from my precious. sumo.gif

 

You really want it, don't you. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

Only because I don't badger other people to sell to me. poke2.gif

 

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deathlok

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Rick, leave the lawyer alone! 893naughty-thumb.gif
Geez, Red you take all the fun out of this.

 

 

 

and stay away from my precious. sumo.gif

 

You really want it, don't you. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

Only because I don't badger other people to sell to me. poke2.gif

 

punish.jpg

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AussieRuss

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My understanding on Pedigrees is that there must be a large depth of collection, consistant high quality, large breadth of collection and must have been an original owner.

 

Depth--Basically # of books.

Breadth--Number of consecutive copies collected and number of titles collected.

Quality--Condition of the books.

Original owner--- Majority of books collected by the owner as the books were printed. Some second hand is possible but not a characteristic of the pedigree.

 

These seem to be the only characteristics of a pedigree that I have heard about. So Don's would apply, would they not? Anyone, have any other info on what determines a "Pedigree"

If those were the only criteria, then there would be one zillion Copper & Modern pedigrees. I think most pedigree purists would say that a pedigree has to have been compiled during a time when it would have been extremely unusual for someone to purchase a huge amount of comics AND maintain them in great condition. These people would say that any "true" pedigree must contain a significant number of books from before 1965 (actually, some of the more extreme members of this group (cough! pedigreeman! cough!) say that only GA pedigrees can be true pedigrees).

 

I think it's rather pointless to try to come up with a definition. Everyone's going to have a different list of criteria. Even if you get some sort of consensus on the criteria you still can't get everyone to agree when it should be applied without exceptions getting carved out.

 

IMHO all that it takes to make or break a pedigree is the answer to one simple question -- is it worth knowing and keeping track of the "origin" of a comic as it finds its way from collector to collector. If the answer is yes cloud9.gif -- call it a pedigree. If the answer is 893censored-thumb.gif "who cares?" then it's not.

 

Simple end to the debate I think! thumbsup2.gif

Actually, I think Timulty's criteria, plus the age factor that I referenced, will govern what gets identified as a pedigree by CGC going forward. But it's a flexible standard that doesn't necessarily weigh all the different factors equally. Thus, a relatively small collection like the Vancouver collection can (and should) get pedigree status even though it contained a relatively small number of books, because the condition was phenomenal and the books are from a period where high grade copies are impossible to find.

 

I think people need to understand that CGC's hands were somewhat tied with respect to existing pedigrees, hence the inconsistencies identified by Deathlok. I think they felt compelled to recognize a lot of pedigrees that already had market acceptance, many of which were identified by the founding dealers purely for marketing purposes, even if such collections might not meet the current tighter standards as to what constitutes a pedigree.

 

 

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Now if I can just hear these words from CGC I will be a very happy person.

 

Otherwise we are all still left guessing what is & what is not.

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deathlok

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Now if I can just hear these words from CGC I will be a very happy person.

 

Otherwise we are all still left guessing what is & what is not.

I wouldn't wait on CGC's definition. Their criteria is defined by how much money they can make.

 

Sadly, instead of CGC being an impartial grading service, they are now determining the hobby.

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sterlingcomics

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Does anyone here actually think that CGC isn't going to designate this as a Pedigree collection?

 

It was my thought that CGC already gave it Pedigree status, although on the label it says collection. If you do a CGC lookup on a DR book it is in the pedigree field as "Don Rosa Collection".

 

Can anyone from CGC confirm this?

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deathlok

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Does anyone here actually think that CGC isn't going to designate this as a Pedigree collection?

 

It was my thought that CGC already gave it Pedigree status, although on the label it says collection. If you do a CGC lookup on a DR book it is in the pedigree field as "Don Rosa Collection".

 

Can anyone from CGC confirm this?

Yes, 100% CGC-certified pedigree.
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