2022 CGC Grading Contest Season 1 Spring Edition (#2) Round 4 13 13

[Bird]

On 5/11/2022 at 8:16 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

War Action I had as a 6.0 

look again johnny

 

I overgraded 2 books by one oncrement, ST and SS and I know why on both. I had considered 'hmm, am I not taking off enough for that" and apparently I wasn't

(of course, that is a cognitive distortion but then again, most of you are likely making them as well once you see the results)

Edited May 12, 2022 by Bird
if I graded in increments and not oncrements I would have won

[WilliamLunt]

Bravo to @CGC Mike for a great contest with some great books.

Feedback would include
- Reducing the Length of each round to 3 days
- Timing the beginning of the round so that a round doesn't end on a Weekend (So us poor schmucks who desperately need the instant gratification of a standings sheet have to wait 2 days)
- I think the scoring system is perfect, but it will produce a lot of natural ties in my opinion. So Instead of tiebreaks have a natural 5th round WITH all contestants who tie for 1st awarded the first place prize, everyone tied for second should get the second place award and so on

General Comments
- the quality of scans is high enough in my opinion, and since we all get the same scans, we all have the same 'disadvantage'
e.g. I don't think the scans of the X-Men #101 in round 4 made the defects clear. I'm expecting most people to have graded this book higher than 9.0 as a whole.

[gradejunky]

Was that War Action cleaned before pressing?  Looks much brighter and no stains in the lettering FC.

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 5/11/2022 at 7:20 PM, Bird said:

On 5/11/2022 at 7:16 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

War Action I had as a 6.0 

look again johnny

 

I overgraded 2 books by one oncrement, ST and SS and I know why on both. I had considered 'hmm, am I not taking off enough for that" and apparently I wasn't

(of course, that is a cognitive distortion but then again, most of you are likely making them as well once you see the results)

Edited 1 minute ago by Bird
if I graded in increments and not oncrements I would have won

Oops.. I corrected it. 

I had the War Action at a 4.5.

[Comicshows]

Well nailed the Sensation. My only bullseye this round. Off on all the others of course. I thought I saw three holes on the spine of the strange tales so was way off with my 7.0 guess. 

[ADAMANTIUM]

One bullseye every round but this one.

Shenanigans 

 

[timguerrero]

I thought last round would be my worse one but no it had to be this last round. I got an awful 13 points on this one throwing me out with a total of 37 points. I really need to go to that grading seminar!

[Galen130]

@skypinkblu I said I’d give it a try one time.  I’ve had my fun, but no more for me.  Thanks for the invite, Sha!!! 

[thehumantorch]

 3 bulls, 1 off by 1 grade and 1 off by 2 grades.

Thanks for running this Mike.  Great fun and great for the community.

[flashlites]

I figure I scored a 4 on that round with 2 bulls. I bumped that X-Men up to a 9.4? I think I will be at 22 points for the contest. Gotta go check those grading notes for the X-Men. Just so glad there were no Spider-Man comics in this round!

[Cushing Fan]

Dang, 7 pts this round. One bullseye with the Surfer, and if I hadn't changed my mind at the last second on the Strange Tales to a 8.5, I would have had two bullseyes.  I'm surprised that book got a 9.0 with what looks like a bottom staple pull or crease.

Thank you Mike for making this all possible  - enjoyable and informative when I'm looking to buy raw books - I did think of two requests.

1. Is it possible to get a pic of each book's spine from the side in future contests?

2. If someone wins or comes in second or third, are they continually allowed to keep entering each contest for prizes? Just saying there are obviously some professional or expert graders out there who would probably score high in every contest. 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Cushing Fan

[flashlites]

Thank you Mike for running this thing! There were some moments there where I was sure you'd had enough. Thanks for sticking with us through till the end and laughing with us and all of our shenanigans! 

[kav]

On 5/11/2022 at 5:35 PM, timguerrero said:

I thought last round would be my worse one but no it had to be this last round. I got an awful 13 points on this one throwing me out with a total of 37 points. I really need to go to that grading seminar!

it stings I know.  when you scroll down the book reveal youre so hopeful-it assumes the importance of a decisive WW2 battle!!!  

[kav]

lets start a prize thread for mike folks!!!

[ADAMANTIUM]

Maybe there could be a prize for the first bullseye for every book in a round?

You asked for suggestions but I wasnt sure when that starts.

@CGC Mike

Edited May 12, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[kav]

mike what about next time a $100 prize for anyone gets 5 bullseyes?  I mean that is so freakin rare it should be rewarded regardless of total score.

[Axelrod]

Well, I'm going to console myself with the thought that I didn't miss any book by more than 3 grades.

I missed a bunch by exactly 3 grades....

8 this round, I think, which is like 35 total.

Thanks Mike!  This is a great contest and impeccably run.

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 5/11/2022 at 7:53 PM, kav said:

mike what about next time a $100 prize for anyone gets 5 bullseyes?  I mean that is so freakin rare it should be rewarded regardless of total score.

Then what happens if all of a sudden a bunch of people nail them or one person gets 5 bulls on every round? 

[zzutak]

Back in the mid-2000s, Ed Jaster (who had recently joined Heritage Auctions) told me the "trick" to having your books certified by CGC was to max out your invoices rather than submit only a few books.  "Sometimes you'll be higher than CGC, and sometimes you'll be lower; but if you're a decent grader, your average grade should come pretty close to CGC's."

To my fellow contestants: Before you pack it in, recalculate your contest score using signed deltas: -2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too low, -1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too low, 0 for a bullseye, +1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too high, +2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too high, and so on.  What's your final 20-book tally now?  Did the errors to the low side and high side more or less balance out?  Or is your contest score way negative or way positive (in which case you're consistently being too strict or too lenient with your condition assessments)?

Chances are your final score using signed deltas will be much smaller than your final score using absolute/unsigned deltas.  If that's the case, your errors are balancing out (which is exactly what Ed predicted would happen for a decent grader).

If the sum of your signed deltas is between -20 and +20, on average, you're less than one grade increment away from CGC.  
If the sum of your signed deltas is between -10 and +10, on average, you're less than one-half of one grade increment away from CGC.       

Until next time! 

Edited May 12, 2022 by zzutak

[kav]

On 5/11/2022 at 5:56 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Then what happens if all of a sudden a bunch of people nail them or one person gets 5 bulls on every round? 

only one prize per person.  a bunch of people are not going to nail them-they never have before in all the grading contests