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Seller sold an incomplete book to me - How would you respond?
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Nick Furious

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On 7/5/2023 at 8:21 PM, southern cross said:

So the book cost $400 plus tax to originally purchased, after grading it's found not complete and ebay makes a offer of a partial refund of just $250 and you return the book? 

So you're out $150 plus tax not even getting to the grading fees and no comic book 

Why would someone do that?

Wouldn't it be better stuffing envelopes with $20 bills and just randomly handing cash out to strangers on the sidewalk on your way to the coffee shop.

Or am I missing something in this thread?

Ebay just said it was past the deadline to request a refund, which it was.  Seller offered to refund $100 even though it was past the deadline according to Ebay TOS.  Buyer went to Paypal, who presumably ran it through Ebay, and Paypal offered $250 plus tax if he returned the book.  

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On 7/5/2023 at 8:37 PM, O Doyle Rules said:

Sorry it has taken me so long to provide an update. As I previously stated I had opened a case with Paypal for a partial refund of $250.00 +30.00 sales tax and me keep the book due to the misrepresentation. I got a reply back after a week that my refund was approved but eBay is requesting that I return the book to get the partial refund? Naturally this makes no sense and Paypal agreed. My claim was revised to ask for the full refund of $430.00 (What I paid for the book) About another week passes and eBay comes back again with a partial refund of $280.00 and for me to return the book.  I believe this was an error and I had planned to continue to work on it to get it corrected. Unfortunately at this time my wife was hospitalized with a serious health issue. The following week I then am hospitalized with an unexpected health issue. I was up against a time crunch since my claim of $280.00 was approved and I had a date certain I had to return the book by or cancel my claim. Or I had to get back on the phone to continue to work with Paypal to get this all corrected. All of sudden due to our family's health issues this matter became totally meaningless to me. I decided to cancel my claim as I needed to reduce the stress level in my life and I accepted my loss as a lesson learned. 

What have I learned form all of this? 

1. I will always thoroughly inspect any comic that I pay a substantial amount for. 

2. I will never ever ask advice online if I have a seller/buyer dispute. 

3. Even though I did not get the final result I wanted, I am convinced had I continued to work on this with Paypal I would have finally prevailed in this situation since it dealt with misrepresentation. 

I do appreciate all the comments and replies as I do feel that I have became a more educated and a better buyer of comic books. Thanks to all. 

For those who wanted to know, Here is the book involved: 

 

 

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First of all, I hope you and your wife are OK. 

It's a nice book, since you decided not to pursue anything further (although  if you send them a medical report they might extend the time)  I'd just keep it in my collection.

You might want to put a note in the "I want to get married" thread, maybe you can complete it.

I think I read somewhere you think it would only sell for $150, I think you might be underestimating the value a bit, not that you'd instantly get your full purchase price back, but I'd expect you'd get more than your estimate. 

Good luck

It's a shame no one counted the pages as the correct # of pages are listed right on the front cover. Easy thing to check.

 

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On 7/5/2023 at 8:37 PM, O Doyle Rules said:

I got a reply back after a week that my refund was approved but eBay is requesting that I return the book to get the partial refund? Naturally this makes no sense and Paypal agreed. My claim was revised to ask for the full refund of $430.00 (What I paid for the book) About another week passes and eBay comes back again with a partial refund of $280.00 and for me to return the book

Wonder why he was working with Paypal while eBay was already on it.

PayPal wouldn't normally get involved until eBay made their final decision.

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Sorry about all the health issues you and your family are facing. Did we ever get the seller's name? He's still a person_too_unaware_of_social_graces for not taking the book back and issuing a full refund. 

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“What have I learned form all of this? 

1. I will always thoroughly inspect any comic that I pay a substantial amount for. 

2. I will never ever ask advice online if I have a seller/buyer dispute.”

I got a nice chuckle out of #2. Hope you’re feeling better.

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On 7/5/2023 at 8:37 PM, O Doyle Rules said:

2. I will never ever ask advice online if I have a seller/buyer dispute.
 

(in my best Inigo Montoya voice)

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

Just an observation, it does seem you weren't interested in advice but instead were looking for people to just agree with you.

I hope you are your wife are doing better with the health issues

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On 7/8/2023 at 7:33 AM, GACollectibles said:

Just an observation, it does seem you weren't interested in advice but instead were looking for people to just agree with you.

Welcome to the internet! :applause:

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On 7/8/2023 at 7:33 AM, GACollectibles said:

(in my best Inigo Montoya voice)

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

Just an observation, it does seem you weren't interested in advice but instead were looking for people to just agree with you.

I hope you are your wife are doing better with the health issues

In your 2nd best Montoya voice, repeat...I quoted the wrong person, Sharon was not the one asking or kvetching about the advice;)

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On 7/8/2023 at 7:38 AM, Ryan. said:

Welcome to the internet! :applause:

Thanks!  I look forward to years of drama free rational discourse!

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GACollectibles

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On 7/8/2023 at 8:20 AM, skypinkblu said:

In your 2nd best Montoya voice, repeat...I quoted the wrong person, Sharon was not the one asking or kvetching about the advice;)

Alrighty, only one way to settle this-

Meet you at Phil's parking lot in half an hour. :sumo:

 

 

(quote fixed, I must have quoted nested post and edited out the wrong part)

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On 7/8/2023 at 6:33 AM, GACollectibles said:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

Just an observation, it does seem you weren't interested in advice but instead were looking for people to just agree with you.

Lesson should be:  "I will not ask for advice online when advice is not what I seek".

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CAHokie

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I wonder what happened to the seller in this? It seemed like shutting down his business was on the table at one point.

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On 7/8/2023 at 7:38 AM, Ryan. said:
On 7/8/2023 at 7:33 AM, GACollectibles said:

Just an observation, it does seem you weren't interested in advice but instead were looking for people to just agree with you.

Welcome to the internet! :applause:

Reddit AITA subreddit

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On 5/23/2023 at 10:16 AM, O Doyle Rules said:

I did not inspect the comic or handle it since my intent was to get it graded and I did not want to cause any inadvertent damage to the comic.

You messed up by not counting the pages yourself. 

It's impossible for you to prove that the book arrived in qualified condition because it's been so long since it was shipped. The seller has the right to be wary due to the time that has expired since the deal. 

He was in the wrong, but you made a crucial mistake by not checking the book yourself. 

Hopefully you learned a lesson. 

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That being said, if I were the dealer, I'd bend over backwards to try to make it right. 

What the seller SHOULD do and what the seller by law HAS to do are two different things, however. 

Again, you simply waited far too late. 

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Oh wait a minute...this horse is already dead? :sorry:

Maybe I should starting reading the entire thread before I post? lol

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