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Certified Collectibles Group to Acquire James Spence Authentication
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Can I resubmit comics with a CGC Qualified green label for JSA autograph authentication?

Yes. Autographed comics with a CGC Qualified green label are eligible for CGC x JSA certification. Submit these books under an applicable grading tier and select “JSA Autograph Authentication” as an add-on service. JSA will determine if the autograph is genuine, and CGC will regrade and encapsulate the comic.

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:35 PM, Flanders82 said:

Can I resubmit comics with a CGC Qualified green label for JSA autograph authentication?

Yes. Autographed comics with a CGC Qualified green label are eligible for CGC x JSA certification. Submit these books under an applicable grading tier and select “JSA Autograph Authentication” as an add-on service. JSA will determine if the autograph is genuine, and CGC will regrade and encapsulate the comic.

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

I believe so

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:35 PM, Flanders82 said:

Can I resubmit comics with a CGC Qualified green label for JSA autograph authentication?

Yes. Autographed comics with a CGC Qualified green label are eligible for CGC x JSA certification. Submit these books under an applicable grading tier and select “JSA Autograph Authentication” as an add-on service. JSA will determine if the autograph is genuine, and CGC will regrade and encapsulate the comic.

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

Yes, and you have the opportunity for a grade drop as well due to handling...

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:35 PM, Flanders82 said:

Can I resubmit comics with a CGC Qualified green label for JSA autograph authentication?

Yes. Autographed comics with a CGC Qualified green label are eligible for CGC x JSA certification. Submit these books under an applicable grading tier and select “JSA Autograph Authentication” as an add-on service. JSA will determine if the autograph is genuine, and CGC will regrade and encapsulate the comic.

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

Yeah --- this is a big deal. Not just the cost - but the chance of the grade going down.  It would seem logical that if a green label qualified grade book (because of unwitnessed signatures) is submitted - with the slab intact and not tampered with - that JSA would review the signatures and CGC would otherwise treat the book as a reholder. Not something the graders need to look at again. People are going to be really unhappy with their green label books getting signatures verified but dropping in grade. 

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On 5/7/2024 at 10:35 PM, Flanders82 said:

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

Correct

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On 5/7/2024 at 5:56 PM, trademarkcomics said:

What color will the label be if the book is restored and the sigs are authenticated? Black and yellow with a purple stripe?

Great question!! This will still receive a full purple RESTO label with a note regarding the JSA Signature Authenticated currently. This is because the book would not qualify for the Yellow/Purple label for SS witnessed signatures with restoration. That said... We are working on some other labels as well as custom labels that have not yet been released so be sure to check back later if you are looking for a label like the Yellow/Purple one below but for JSA Authentication. 

 

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On 5/7/2024 at 4:47 PM, CHWL said:

@MattM CS A bit confused by how books with unwitnessed sig and sketch be treated. Says in the FAQ that "if the autograph is authentic, and it is determined that the sketch will negatively impact the overall grade of the comic, the comic will receive a CGC Qualified green label. Alternatively, if it is determined that the sketch will not negatively impact the grade of the comic, the comic will receive the CGC x JSA Authentic Autograph label."

But in the sample provided in the article, this Venom Lethal Protector got the new JSA label but the sketch presumably impacted the grade (hence the 9.6?) and the label doesn't note there is a sketch...?

 

Hi! Great question! This is actually something I am currently waiting for more information on as this was DMed to me by another customer. Once I have more info I will let you know. Thanks for your patience! 

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:24 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said:

So, for an example, how would this TMNT #1 3rd Print be treated? Verified sigs and sketch? Or just the sigs, not the sketches, which may or may not detract from the grade?

Currently this service is only for comic sized books. As this run of TMNT fits into our Magazine holders, it would not currently qualify for this CGCxJSA authentication. That said, we are working on making our other collectible types available through this label so be sure to check back later. 

If the autograph is authentic, and it is determined that the sketch will negatively impact the overall grade of the comic, the comic will receive a CGC Qualified green label. Alternatively, if it is determined that the sketch will not negatively impact the grade of the comic, the comic will receive the CGC x JSA Authentic Autograph label. As for a remarque this size (as these are not full blown sketches) this should not likely be not negatively impact the grade but we would need this in hand to confirm unfortunately. 

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:17 PM, trademarkcomics said:

I was assuming it's not grading the sig's authenticity, but its quality. Like Stan Lee's sigs would get worse and worse as the day went on(get this guy a new sharpie!) and as his age increased, but some of his sigs looked like he used a stamp, which would be "A" grade sigs to me. 

Great example! 

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:17 PM, trademarkcomics said:

I was assuming it's not grading the sig's authenticity, but its quality. Like Stan Lee's sigs would get worse and worse as the day went on(get this guy a new sharpie!) and as his age increased, but some of his sigs looked like he used a stamp, which would be "A" grade sigs to me. 

Yep - I agree.  And don't like that idea.  Still insulting. ;)  I mean, except for the stamp thing.  Stamps are not signatures, even if theoretically Stan himself stamped it.  In that case it should be 'Stamped by Stan Lee".  I don't need a company to tell me if it is a good or 'quality' signature or not - you can see that with the naked eye.  Authentic or not is a different ballgame (kind of like Babe Ruth).

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On 5/7/2024 at 2:58 PM, ExNihilo said:

I'm glad the distinction between "witnessed" and "authenticated" is clear (as opposed to the guys across the street who use the same label, just have it in fine print.

What happens though if someone submits a pedigreed book for witnessed signature?  Do you get a gold label?  Yellow?  A sharper contrast between the two would probably be nice.  Or had they used a different color for authenticated, that would have been even better.  Perhaps red?

For now, this should get the Yellow label with a note of the pedigree below the signature information on the label. We are currently in the process of making some new labels and custom labels though so be sure to be on the lookout for more information regarding situations like this. Thanks for your patience !

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:24 PM, Hulksdaddy1 said:

So, for an example, how would this TMNT #1 3rd Print be treated? Verified sigs and sketch? Or just the sigs, not the sketches, which may or may not detract from the grade?

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You are grading the book - not the quality of the artwork.  I would say something like "Verified Signature and Sketch"  Same ink, same style. Did it come with a COA?

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:34 PM, cousin itt said:

What label does a book get if it already has a yellow label, but you send it in to get an interior signature JSA'd?  I wouldn't want that stripe because it would make it look like it ONLY has JSA'd signatures.  Maybe give it the yellow stripe at the top (like it already has) but add that additional text about JSA in the stripe.  Or, just make the JSA'd signature a label note.  But I definitely wouldn't want that black stripe on a book with witnessed signatures.

CGC x JSA 

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On 5/8/2024 at 8:53 AM, Neo "The One" said:

You are grading the book - not the quality of the artwork.  I would say something like "Verified Signature and Sketch"  Same ink, same style. Did it come with a COA?

Hey @Neo "The One"

See my message above. Thanks! 

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On 5/7/2024 at 10:35 PM, Flanders82 said:

Can I resubmit comics with a CGC Qualified green label for JSA autograph authentication?

Yes. Autographed comics with a CGC Qualified green label are eligible for CGC x JSA certification. Submit these books under an applicable grading tier and select “JSA Autograph Authentication” as an add-on service. JSA will determine if the autograph is genuine, and CGC will regrade and encapsulate the comic.

So if I submit a qualified label slab, the book will be regraded and I'll be charged a grading fee in addition to the authentication fee? 

This is a good one.  Sounds more like a re-holder to me.  Why regrade?  Unless you think it will get a bump.

 

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On 5/8/2024 at 2:38 AM, DougC said:

Yes, and you have the opportunity for a grade drop as well due to handling...

I'm always going for grade drops when re-submitting.  And with a CGC press it happens quite often!  yay me.

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