Is anyone else getting books back with warped inner wells? 27 27

[Gaard]

I wonder if these words have ever been spoken by a QC person ... "Send it back thru. It's warped."

Edited October 11 by Gaard

[Engr62]

On 10/11/2024 at 12:48 PM, Gaard said:

I wonder if these words have ever been spoken by a QC person ... "Send it back thru. It's warped."

You mean... the "mythical QC person."

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

On 10/10/2024 at 5:10 PM, aszumilo said:

Probably because the damage happens after grading and during encapsulation.  You would think Quality Control would have caught it.

Word is they hired Angel Hernandez to do QC.

[aszumilo]

On 10/11/2024 at 10:48 AM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

Word is they hired Angel Hernandez to do QC.

Well, he has nothing better to do this post season

[Yorick]

Someone recently posted about the inner well getting hung up by the outer case's molded label tray (the inner well not sitting inside the vertical dimension).  I looked closely at my CGC BANANA and noticed the same.

The inner well just didn't fit.  Something is going on at encapsulation specifically during the seal of the inner well.  Perhaps they're not getting the edge alignments of the two sheets correct and that changes the overall vertical length into something that does not fit the outer case.

[AbsoluteCarnage]

I've had 18 books since July and just praying  that I "don't " see them go to Grading and encapsulation. Some of my best ASM 9.8 graded cgc books to be signed by JRJR. Sad to want them not to go into progress but with the issues lately.................................................. not seeing anything positive on the fix. Doesn't really  make sense to not just revert back to what they did prior. You don't have to nuke my books with heat to super seal them. They're my books. I know no one swapped them out  few less heat melds no warp?

 

 

[AbsoluteCarnage]

Seriously driving me nuts. Wish I hadn't submitted my 18 flat inner well ASM 9.8s. Prove me wrong CGC

 

[AbsoluteCarnage]

[AbsoluteCarnage]

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I don't expect much obviously at this time and much love to all dealing with the hurricane stuff. Just been a bit since I thought about my submission. Apologies as not a good time to post this stuff. Hope you are all doing well.

 

[AbsoluteCarnage]

Wish you all the best in Florida 

 

[Jaylam]

Is someone going to start a grading company that specializes in (re)-grading slabbed books to account for the damage slabbing and SCS is doing the books after they have already been graded?  

[nuffsaid111]

I'm sure CGC will have a solution shortly.

It's only been approx. 6 months, afterall .

Solid solution & implementation needs to age like fine wine. It's irrelevant if we all suffer with anxiety, damages, and impacted sales/purchases in the interim.

Just remember in times of stress that it's all within specifications and tolerances, and you'll feel better. 

Edited Sunday at 05:51 PM by nuffsaid111

[HotKey]

CGC will shortly announce there is no problem with quality control. CGC will then announce a new quality control department to oversee the current quality control department.

They will then state there is no problem with the original quality control department, and adding this new department will end the problems with the quality control department.

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 10/14/2024 at 6:21 AM, HotKey said:

CGC will shortly announce there is no problem with quality control. CGC will then announce a new quality control department to oversee the current quality control department.

They will then state there is no problem with the original quality control department, and adding this new department will end the problems with the quality control department.

[Yorick]

On 10/12/2024 at 12:44 PM, Jaylam said:

Is someone going to start a grading company that specializes in (re)-grading slabbed books to account for the damage slabbing and SCS is doing the books after they have already been graded?  

You mean like a sticker on the case noting it is an exceptional example? 

[bc]

Think the board software is going a bit bananas as well today.

-bc

[CGC Mike]

On 10/14/2024 at 1:26 PM, bc said:

Think the board software is going a bit bananas as well today.

-bc

 

[DanJD]

Anyone receive any books back recently that can help determine if this is truly fixed or not?

Thanks. 

[EastEnd1]

On 10/16/2024 at 12:07 PM, DanJD said:

Anyone receive any books back recently that can help determine if this is truly fixed or not?

Thanks. 

I just got back 17 vintage books (not moderns) yesterday.  I think someone else may have alluded to this earlier, but what I've found with ALL 17 is that if you lie the book down face up, the inner well is perfectly flat against the back outer well.  If you flip the book over with the back cover facing up, you create a bit of a banana curve because the bottom spine corner inner well impinges on the pin at that corner's outer well, while the rest of the book falls flat against the front outer well.  If you stand the book up, you can still have some banana curve depending on how the book lies, though I'd imagine there's less pressure on the spine since gravity isn't working as much against you.  It looks like a holder design flaw to me and I'd imagine that's why it's taking so long to correct... the holder needs an overhaul.  Despite CGC's stated position about curve tolerance, there's no reason to have to tolerate ANY curve... the book should lie flat, period.  And it wouldn't seem that difficult to design a holder that accomplishes that.

Edited Wednesday at 04:31 PM by EastEnd1

[joeypost]

On 10/16/2024 at 12:07 PM, DanJD said:

Anyone receive any books back recently that can help determine if this is truly fixed or not?

Thanks. 

I have an order of moderns arriving today or tomorrow. I’ll take some pictures.