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PGX just stepped on an Atom Bomb. A classic tale of deceit, trimming,and woe.

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Red Hook

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As I mentioned in the 1st page of the original thread, the transaction I had with them was weird.

The info that ebay keeps on record for ma4pres is:

Christina Leder

4450 Hilton Drive.

Eugene, Or. 97402

(541) 521-2620

When she finally replied from christinascollectables@hotmail.com she gave me an address.

Terance Leder

PO. box 2423

Eugene, Or. 97402

 

Several days later, I sent another e-mail, and recieved a paypal payment from:

Dennis Hooker

293 West 7th

Eugene, Or. 97401

 

 

4450 Hilton is home of D. Leder

 

D Leder

4450 Hilton Dr

Eugene, OR 97402-1722

(541) 461-2578

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Illiterati-migration

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Here is with the Dennis Hooker Address 3.9 mi (about 9 mins)

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=711+oakdale+Street,+springfield+OR&spn=0.004914,0.007703&t=k&hl=en

 

Christina Leder 10.9 mi (about 16 mins)

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=711+oakdale+Street,+springfield+OR&spn=0.004914,0.007703&t=k&hl=en

 

Google Earth is muuuuuuuch cooler. wink.gif

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towards2112

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Are you implying Leder gave PGX a case of GS X-Men #1 to get all those 9.8/9.9s? yeahok.gif

 

Jim

 

No, Jim, not suggesting that, just that what Zipper asked on the STL site

was possible.

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awe4one

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I'm sure Patterson and Leder are not the same person.

The scary part is Elliot

 

And where does Mama Elliott's terrier website fall into all of this? I wonder if Christina Leder's maiden name is Elliott?

 

Jim

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towards2112

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It would seem that at least one attorney on this forum knows the definition

of liable. Thank you Mr. Zaid.

 

He probably knows how to spell it too! makepoint.gif

 

And thus is proved MK's first law of economics: If you have a major investment in a grading company, you'll defend it to the end, regardless of the writing on the wall.

 

Wake up, TOOL!

 

 

Regards, Red

 

Thanks for the advise.

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Ze-man

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Would this imply that I trim books? no, only to a looney....

Does this imply I like PGX ? could be, or could be not.....

 

No , the only thing your post implies to me is that you are bad at making subtle points.

 

Ze-

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Red Hook

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It would seem that at least one attorney on this forum knows the definition

of liable. Thank you Mr. Zaid.

 

He probably knows how to spell it too! makepoint.gif

 

And thus is proved MK's first law of economics: If you have a major investment in a grading company, you'll defend it to the end, regardless of the writing on the wall.

 

Wake up, TOOL!

 

 

Regards, Red

 

Thanks for the advise.

 

And since I'm not a lawyer, there's no charge! thumbsup2.gif

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Johnny G

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Here is with the Dennis Hooker Address 3.9 mi (about 9 mins)

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=711+oakdale+Street,+springfield+OR&spn=0.004914,0.007703&t=k&hl=en

 

Christina Leder 10.9 mi (about 16 mins)

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=711+oakdale+Street,+springfield+OR&spn=0.004914,0.007703&t=k&hl=en

 

Has anyone ever been to Eugene?

 

OF COURSE everything is a stone's throw away!!! It takes a whopping 10-15 minutes to go from one end of the "city" to the other foreheadslap.gif

 

I think we'll need a little more than this!!!

 

Again, I am in no way on PGX's side... just on the side of reality wink.gif In fact due to the reality of realized prices, I no longer use them period! So I could care less about the bashing,

 

I live in the Vancouver area. Does that mean that if Isell a book, that somehow Greggy, CrowsQB, AARDVARK and who ever else lives within 50 miles is attached to that sale??? I think not!

 

But then again, this is the internet and ANYTHING is possible!

 

I'm truly am surprised that there were no big reactions to the fact of meeting in a hotel and not the "shop". After seeing what sets the masses off, I would of thought that would have stoked the fire a bit confused-smiley-013.gif Guess that's why I keep coming back... you'll never know what can happen around here smile.gif

 

John thumbsup2.gif

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Some of the names used by ma4pres are Ryan/Robin Elliot & Mike Adams.

Money is sent to these names.

Honestly I feel that there are multiple people involved here.

These are not just made up names.

 

As people have mentioned before it doesn't help that a Donovan Elliot works at PGX.

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I agree. But it doesn't help that the biggest scammer/customer in PGX world is only 10min away.

Really the most damning thing is the doctored scan PGX gave to us.

 

Image the storm if Steve B. continued to defend Ewert and gave us doctored a scan.

 

Honestly I really don't know if PGX is working with Leder or not.

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