joecgcmaniac Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Is the G.I. Joe 21 with the UPC code the rarer of the issues. Thanks. Similar to Spider-man 1 by McFarland. If this has not been answered to general satisfaction, I would like to chime in: I think the UPC is the first print. The Spidey-face UPC is direct. And Black Spidey-face is 2nd and maybe third print. Can anyone back this up? If it has the Black spidey on upc will it say inside that its second printing? And what about the direct edition with upc bar? It does state inside that it is a second print. There was no direct edition with UPC bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I have a lot of 44 books from the 30's to 90's on ebay right now. Just click on the link in my signature. (worship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) Is the G.I. Joe 21 with the UPC code the rarer of the issues. Thanks. Similar to Spider-man 1 by McFarland. If this has not been answered to general satisfaction, I would like to chime in: I think the UPC is the first print. The Spidey-face UPC is direct. And Black Spidey-face is 2nd and maybe third print. Can anyone back this up? If it has the Black spidey on upc will it say inside that its second printing? And what about the direct edition with upc bar? It does state inside that it is a second print. There was no direct edition with UPC bar. K so I am a bit confused. Here is a book that says direct edition with a upc code on it. And when you say black spidey do you mean this one or is this the face one? Reason I ask is because I have a bunch of these black spidy faces and I looked at the text and there is no mention of second printing in them. Btw I am assuming that this is the spidey face normal one. Edited April 23, 2008 by Whisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Is the G.I. Joe 21 with the UPC code the rarer of the issues. Thanks. Similar to Spider-man 1 by McFarland. If this has not been answered to general satisfaction, I would like to chime in: I think the UPC is the first print. The Spidey-face UPC is direct. And Black Spidey-face is 2nd and maybe third print. Can anyone back this up? If it has the Black spidey on upc will it say inside that its second printing? And what about the direct edition with upc bar? It does state inside that it is a second print. There was no direct edition with UPC bar. K so I am a bit confused. Here is a book that says direct edition with a upc code on it. And when you say black spidey do you mean this one or is this the face one? Reason I ask is because I have a bunch of these black spidy faces and I looked at the text and there is no mention of second printing in them. Btw I am assuming that this is the spidey face normal one. They started doing the UPC codes with Direct edition written in the box in the mid 90s. Issue #138 is the beginning of this. Before then, the direct books had either spidey's head, Captain america's head or some other character or artwork. That is indeed the Black Spidey head. The G.I. Joe #21 direct market first print had the normal Spider-Man Face (White with Black Webbing design). The later prints have The all black Spider-Man Face. Issue #23 is the first issue who's first printing had the all black Spidey face. This ran until around the time spidey went back to his old costume, then the direct editions went back to the normal Spidey face. That is indeed the normal spidey face here is a scan of a direct first print. Remember, all-black spidey face is second or third direct print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) They started doing the UPC codes with Direct edition written in the box in the mid 90s. Issue #138 is the beginning of this. Before then, the direct books had either spidey's head, Captain america's head or some other character or artwork. That is indeed the Black Spidey head. The G.I. Joe #21 direct market first print had the normal Spider-Man Face (White with Black Webbing design). The later prints have The all black Spider-Man Face. Issue #23 is the first issue who's first printing had the all black Spidey face. This ran until around the time spidey went back to his old costume, then the direct editions went back to the normal Spidey face. That is indeed the normal spidey face here is a scan of a direct first print. Remember, all-black spidey face is second or third direct print. Thanks that clears it up. Anyone know what was the date when they switched back to the regular spidey face in the series? Edited April 23, 2008 by Whisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 issue #68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 What about books that have no upc or face on them like number #58. How come nothing at all on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 that was what was special about the direct market books. They didn't have to have anything for a UPC box if a) they wanted to present a cover image with nothing to detract from it and b) they just didn't want to use one From 1991 on, on most direct market books, they didn't use the spidey head, but rather began celebrating anniversarys of titles; ex. FF 30th for 1991, X-Men 30th for 1993 and so on. Really there was no rhyme or reason other than they could and as for #58.... why mess up this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Alright, Thanks again for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camera73 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Two questions for the G.I. Joe collecting community: 1) What was the amount offered by a member on these boards for a 9.8 G.I. Joe #21? 2) One of the hottest back issues in the 80s was G.I. Joe #2. It was often advertised as low print run. Was this ever validated? Were there ever numbers given? Was it clever marketing by retailers? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Two questions for the G.I. Joe collecting community: 1) What was the amount offered by a member on these boards for a 9.8 G.I. Joe #21? 2) One of the hottest back issues in the 80s was G.I. Joe #2. It was often advertised as low print run. Was this ever validated? Were there ever numbers given? Was it clever marketing by retailers? Thanks 1) $1,500 or so, I believe 2) #2 has almost always been scarcer (at least in ultra HG) than any of the other early issues (except 21). I don't believe any official numbers were ever released for the early issues #2 is the first issue of the series that went back to a second print (#1 was NOT reprinted.... shows how many of those were printed! ) and a cgc 9.8 White copy of #1 and a cgc 9.8 White copy of #2, and you will most definately pay more for the #2 (there are 95 cgc 9.8 #1s in the census.... 12 cgc 9.8 copies of #2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidcolt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I thought it would be interesting for everyone to list in order their favorite 10 GI Joe issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 10) 82 9) 25 8) 26 7) 27 6) 155 5) 21 4) 24 3) 95 2) 94 1) 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camera73 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 My apologies for listing storylines instead of single issues. 10) 78 9) 61-66 8) 80 7) 93-96 6) 104-107 5) 19 4) 82 3) 26 + 27 2) 21 1) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisp Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Don't know the numbers since I just started getting them all back since I lost them when I as a kid. The two storylines that I liked best was when cobra comanders son (Billy) started being trained by Storm Shadow and led into the whole battle with Zartan and his ninjas. The second storyline I liked was when Cobra and the Joes are battling on Cobra island and Destro Iron Grenadiers come in at the end and pawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidcolt Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 GI Joe #21 price variant YIKES!!! BTW its not my auction or comic (wish it was haha). http://cgi.ebay.ca/G-I-JOE-21-CGC-8-0-75-CENT-PRICE-VARIANT-RARE_W0QQitemZ230272294104QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33819QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecgcmaniac Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 GI Joe #21 price variant YIKES!!! BTW its not my auction or comic (wish it was haha). http://cgi.ebay.ca/G-I-JOE-21-CGC-8-0-75-CENT-PRICE-VARIANT-RARE_W0QQitemZ230272294104QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33819QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem too bad it will never sell this is the 3rd or 4th time he's listed it at this price Now if it were a 9.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBird Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Hi, does anyone here know if the 21 9.8 ever sold? and if so, how much? and, on a related note, what's the highest price so far for a mainstream (marvel/dc) copper 9.8? Edited July 21, 2008 by mattbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidcolt Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) WOW someone got a fantastic deal/steal. Horrible picture but the seller has a decent feedback. http://cgi.ebay.ca/MIP-GI-JOE-COMIC-155-LAST-ISSUE_W0QQitemZ130240566669QQihZ003QQcategoryZ35765QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Edited July 21, 2008 by kidcolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abracadabra Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 WOW someone got a fantastic deal/steal. Horrible picture but the seller has a decent feedback. http://cgi.ebay.ca/MIP-GI-JOE-COMIC-155-LAST-ISSUE_W0QQitemZ130240566669QQihZ003QQcategoryZ35765QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I'm guessing it was a listing error. He has relisted it as an auction. That would have been a great deal though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
