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Michael Browning

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On 11/18/2022 at 5:41 PM, ak47po said:

Amazing Fantasy 15 Spider-man 1-900 85% CGC 9.8 COMPLETE 149☝️ALL 9.8.

 

CGC AF 15+1-20 7.0+ 21-50 8.0+ 51-106 9.0+ 107-149 9.4+

 

Issue #, corresponding grade, and page quality Key:

w=white pages

Ow/w=off-white to white pages

Ow=off-white pages

Cr/ow=cream to off-white pages


 

Issues Amazing Fantasy 15 + Amazing Spider-man 1-20 All 7.0 or better:

 

Amazing Fantasy 15 7.0 Cr/ow pages

Amazing Spider-man:

1 7.0 ow/w

2 7.0 ow/w

3 7.0 cr/ow

4 7.0 ow/w

5 8.0 ow

6 7.5 ow

7 7.5 ow/w

8 8.0 ow/w

9 7.0 ow/w

10 7.5 w

11 7.0 ow

12 8.5 ow/w

13 8.5 ow/w

14 8.0 ow/w

15 8.0 ow/w

16 7.5 w

17 8.0 ow/w

18 9.0 w

19 8.0 ow/w

20 7.0 ow

 

21-50 ARE ALL 8.0 OR BETTER

 

21 8.5 w

22 8.0 w

23 9 ow/w

24 9 ow

25 8.5 ow/w

26 8.0 ow/w

27 8.0 cr/ow

28 8.0 ow/w

29 8.0 ow/w

30 8.0 ow/w

31 8.0 w

32 8.0 Cr/ow

33 8.0 ow/w

34 8.5 w

35 9.0 ow/w

36 8.0 Ow/w

37 8.0 ow/w

38 9.0 ow/w

39 9.2 w

40 8.0 ow/w

41 8.0 cr/ow

42 8.0 ow/w

43 8.0 ow/w

44 8.0 w

45 9.0 ow/w

46 8.0 ow/w

47 8.5 ow/w

48 8.5 ow/w

49 9.0 ow/w

50 8.0 w

 

51-102 ARE ALL 9.0 OR BETTER

 

51 9.0 w

52 9.0 cr/ow

53 9.2 ow/w

54 9.2 cr/ow

55 9.2 w

56 9.6 Ct/ow

57 9.2 ow/w

58 9.0 w

59 9.6 w

60 9.0 ow/w

61 9.0 w

62 9.0 w

63 9.4 cr/ow

64 9.2 ow/w

65 9.4 cr/ow

66 9.2 w

67 9.2 cr/ow

68 9.4 cr/ow

69 9.0 w

70 9.2 cr/ow

71 9.2 ow/w

72 9.2 w

73 9.4 cr/ow

74 9.6 w

75 9.4 cr/ow

76 9.0 w

77 9.0 w

78 9.4 ow/w

79 9.2 ow/w

80 9.2 w

81 9.6 cr/ow

82 9.2 ow/w

83 9.4 w

84 9.4 ow/w

85 9.0 w

86 9.2 ow/w

87 9.4 ow/

88 9.2 ow/w

89 9.2 ow/w

90 9.0 ow/w

91 9.2 ow/w

92 9.2 ow/w

93 9.0 cr/ow

94 9.0 ow

95 9.2 w

96 9.4 ow/w

97 9.4 ow/w

98 9.2 w

99 9.2 cr/ow

100 9.2 ow/w

101 9.0 w

 

102–148 ARE ALL 9.4 OR BETTER

 

102 9.4 w

103 9.6 ow/w

104 9.4 ow/w

105 9.4 w

106 9.4 ow/w

107 9.4 ow/w

108 9.4 cr/ow

109 9.6 ow/w

110 9.6 w

111 9.6 Cr/ow

112 9.4 w

113 9.6 ow

114 9.6 ow/w

115 9.6 ow/w

116 9.6 ow/w

117 9.6 ow

118 9.6 w

119 9.6 w

120 9.4 ow/w

121 9.6 w

122 9.6 ow/w

123 9.6 ow/w

124 9.6 ow/w

125 9.6 w

126 9.6 ow/w

127 9.6 ow

128 9.6 ow/w

129 9.6 w (QES) quality evaluation service certified

130 9.6 w

131 9.4 ow/w

132 9.4 ow

133 9.8 ow

134 9.4 ow/w

135 9.6 w

136 9.4 ow/w

137 9.6 ow/w

138 9.6 ow

139 9.6 ow/w

140 9.6 ow/w

141 9.4 ow/w

142 9.4 ow/w

143 9.4 Cr/ow

144 9.6 ow/w

145 9.6 w

146 9.6 ow/w

147 9.8 w

148 9.4 ow/w

 

From here all issues are CGC 9.8 white pages.

 

149-900 ALL CGC 9.8 white pages

 

Which includes:

 

Volume 1: 149-441

Volume 2: 1-58 (Legacy # 442-499)

Then it returns to original numbering: 500-700

Also includes 654.1

Then becomes Superior Spider-man: 1-33 (Legacy 701-733)

Also includes:

Avenging Spider-man 15.1

Superior Spider-man Annual 1,2

Then becomes Volume 3: 1-18 (Legacy 734-751)

Also includes:

1.1-1.5 (Learning to Crawl 1-5)

16.1-20.1 (Spiral 1-5)

Then becomes Renew Your Vows 1-5 (Legacy 752-756)

Then becomes Volume 4: 1-32 (Legacy 757-788)

Also includes:

1.1-15 (Amazing Grace)

Then returns to Legacy Numbering: 789-801

Also includes:

FCBD 2018-2019

Clone Conspiracy 1-5 and Omega

Then Becomes Volume 5: 1-93 (Legacy 802-894)

Also Includes:

16.hu,18.hu-20.hu

50.LR-54.LR

Kings Ransom Giant Size

Sinister War 1-5

78.bey,80.bey,88.bey,92.bey

FCBD 2022

Then Becomes Volume 6: 1-6 (Legacy 895-900)

 

All of the above are also CGC 9.8.

 

There are 948 cgc comics. 800+ are 9.8. 

 

This is the culmination of over 2 decades of collecting comics and 1 decade of CGC vigorus hunting, personal pressing, person to person trading, and direct to cgc certifying.

 

80% of these were direct submissions to CGC. 20% were acquired by other means.

 

Whew…. Here’s the boring stuff now.



 

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On 11/18/2022 at 10:06 PM, Michael Browning said:

Are you the seller? Sounds like you’re the seller and it needs moved out of this thread.

I'm not the seller. just posted the eBay description. I wish i was the seller! 

This is a CGC news story. https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/10926/spiderman-complete-amazing-fantasy/

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On 11/19/2022 at 12:09 AM, ak47po said:

I'm not the seller. just posted the eBay description. I wish i was the seller! 

This is a CGC news story. https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/10926/spiderman-complete-amazing-fantasy/

I guess this CGC news story is how they thank him for his patronage...

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On 11/19/2022 at 4:22 AM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Why say it sold for $18K?:makepoint:

 

 

I don't think it matters when the price is already in the stratosphere. Can it be repeated? Probably.

The thing to remember is that the people who got in early (some years ago now) and paid a fraction of that price for a copy will always be winners when they eventually sell.

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On 11/18/2022 at 11:34 AM, ThothAmon said:

That’s a lot of dough. Probably way too much but who’s willing to do all the math?

It's 948 books. Assume for the sake of argument $150K on AF15, $100K on ASM 1-10, and $50K on ASM 11-20. That's $300K on 21 books. So that leaves $1.2 million for 927 books, or $1,294 a book on average. Using KeyCollector as a guide, the books after ASM 20 that beat the $1,294 average in "high grade" are ASM 28, 31, 41, 50, 101, 129.

There are some outliers KeyCollector wouldn't catch because they command a premium in a 9.8, like ASM 194, 238, 252, 300, 301.

That's 11 "key" books outside the first 21 that beat the $1,294 average, and some by a decent amount - double or more in some cases. But even if there were 40 additional books after the first 21, and we said those 40 averaged a ballpark value of $3k each, that's $120K more. So we're at 61 books worth $420K. Let's sloppily round it to $500K even to make the math easier. That still leaves $1 million for 887 books, or $1,127 a book on average.

This "napkin scratch" analysis obviously has flaws, and I'm sure someone will point it out if I'm way off. But in general - even though it's definitely an impressive accomplishment - I think it's probably not worth it outside the novelty of owning such a massive, complete run, which could draw a premium in and of itself from the right buyer.

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On 11/19/2022 at 1:15 AM, Jesse-Lee said:

It's 948 books. Assume for the sake of argument $150K on AF15, $100K on ASM 1-10, and $50K on ASM 11-20. That's $300K on 21 books. So that leaves $1.2 million for 927 books, or $1,294 a book on average. Using KeyCollector as a guide, the books after ASM 20 that beat the $1,294 average in "high grade" are ASM 28, 31, 41, 50, 101, 129.

There are some outliers KeyCollector wouldn't catch because they command a premium in a 9.8, like ASM 194, 238, 252, 300, 301.

That's 11 "key" books outside the first 21 that beat the $1,294 average, and some by a decent amount - double or more in some cases. But even if there were 40 additional books after the first 21, and we said those 40 averaged a ballpark value of $3k each, that's $120K more. So we're at 61 books worth $420K. Let's sloppily round it to $500K even to make the math easier. That still leaves $1 million for 887 books, or $1,127 a book on average.

This "napkin scratch" analysis obviously has flaws, and I'm sure someone will point it out if I'm way off. But in general - even though it's definitely an impressive accomplishment - I think it's probably not worth it outside the novelty of owning such a massive, complete run, which could draw a premium in and of itself from the right buyer.

Would be really cool if the complete set was sequentially numbered 

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On 11/19/2022 at 12:09 AM, ak47po said:

I'm not the seller. just posted the eBay description. I wish i was the seller! 

Oh it was gorgeousness and gorgeosity made flesh. The trombones crunched redgold under my bed, and behind my gulliver the trumpets three-wise silverflamed, and there by the door the timps rolling through my guts and out again crunched like candy thunder. Oh, it was wonder of wonders. And then, a bird of like rarest spun heavenmetal, or like silvery wine flowing in a spaceship, gravity all nonsense now, came the violin solo above all the other strings, and those strings were like a cage of silk round my bed. Then flute and oboe bored, like worms of like platinum, into the thick thick toffee gold and silver. I was in such bliss, my brothers.

 

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Just finished visiting some regional shops I only get to once or twice a year. Discussing sales with them to get a better idea of how their market is looking. 

From my point of view just about every shop I know has a large selection of slabs in the shop now. I figured this would occur due the large submission rates over the last year. Now we are reaching the saturation level I think. I see alot of nice books and very expensive slabs just sitting now. One shop had a UF4 9.6 that was sitting as well. I think shops overestimated the market for these. 

Each and every shop explained in detail how tremendous their sales were last year. The smart shops have been preparing the coming let down this year.  I walked into one shop today and the majority of the shop was $1 and $2 books with some wall books. (And some slabs) I was greeted as I walked in the door by the staff asked what I was looking for and was given a tour of the shop. This happened to me twice today and I was stunned as I never get that in shops. It was very refreshing. 

The next few months up to tax season will show us how the market will lay out. Ive seen numerous "I am out" sales on facebook. I think this will continue as buyers turned sellers will finally realize they way overpaid last year. 

Locally my main shop has been using Whatnot and it has really helped him clear out inventory and occasionally really clears it out. He is very happy with  the format and I am happy for him because it gives him another venue stream for the shop. I use this as well when I search on that format for shops or someone selling a personal collection because thats who I want my money to go too. 

Ebay has surprisingly picked up for me this month. This is usually my month to load up my store in Nov and Dec and not care about sales at all. The last week or two I haven't been able to load much because I am packing up sales. I need to find another multi sale book like Hulk 256 which I sold 5 copies in like a week that was awesome. I am seeing Spawn copies from 200 to 260 start showing up in stores now. Seems the Spawn fire is slowing down. 

Bloodstone and Werewolf by Night modern issues are selling well for me including trades. Man-Thing as well. Disney has gotten people interested in Horror now. If you can find modern horror cheap I highly recommend buying the print runs were nothing.

Super 75 and its related parts are hot again. Never thought I would say that again lol.  I finally got another copy of ASM 606 in the other day. Its like tearing a dog from a bone to get ASM 601 or 606 from anyone. Those books sell immediately. 1st Amadeus Cho is another book I cant seem to find anymore. Id love to find a newsstand of it as well. 

Batman page punchers are selling now at $15 - $25. I still say you can't go wrong with those. That 608 2nd print variant will be in demand years down the road.  

Got a couple of Zombie Tramp TPBs this week for nothing they will be easy resales. TPB sales are great right now overall in all genres with the right books. 

Its nice to see Simpsons and Simpson related books selling well finally. Those last issues are a nightmare and newsstands will fetch a nice penny too.

Shiny covers are back. Those Avengers covers from years ago Ive been looking for a nice newsstand for years of them no luck. People paid big money for the new Shiny Superman 75s expect this to continue.

And lastly Omega Men 3 is the cat's meow not a copy to be found this week in shops. Im glad Spectre 54 is getting some love too. 

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On 11/20/2022 at 6:51 PM, Michael Browning said:

In all my years of collecting Spectre, I've only ever found one copy of #54 in the wild. I have found a bunch of the last issue, but just one #54.

And its a really nice cover with alot of things going on. I think I might have found or seen 2 over the years. All those Spectres in the 50s/60s
are tough I rarely see any of them and the covers are fantastic.

 

 

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And its a really nice cover with alot of things going on. I think I might have found or seen 2 over the years. All those Spectres in the 50s/60s
are tough I rarely see any of them and the covers are fantastic.

 

 

LCS had a full run minus a couple issues for $65 but I didn't pull the trigger, but the 54 was in there...

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