Comic book collecting with a foreign variant focus 20 20

[rakehell]

On 6/14/2022 at 2:27 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Looks like a Namor leg, doesn't it....

Oh, I don't know. Could be Millie. Or Two Gun Kid in his underpants. 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 6/15/2022 at 1:08 PM, rakehell said:

Oh, I don't know. Could be Millie. Or Two Gun Kid in his underpants. 

Don't be silly, Patricia 

[Kromak]

My first Italian super-hero:

 

 

Edited June 16, 2022 by Kromak

[Kromak]

By the way Heritage, already started to post the books for their first foreign comic books:

https://comics.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?No=0&N=52+792+4294940843

There many great books posted, but two definitely stand out for me, after a rapidly overlook of what is available.

One is the Paquito with an Action Comics 1 page that someone opened a thread about.

The other is this one:

It's difficult to convoy its importance and rarity to foreign people.

Up to that point in time, there were a couple of "modern comic books" publications outside the US, but overall, they were secondary to publications compared to the tabloid format, that were much bigger, dedicated only a few pages to each story, most content probably being  daily strips and were published up to 3 times a week.

In Brazil in 1939, the publisher "O Globo" started a new series called "Gibi". It was a standard publication on the tabloid format. However when it reached n°100 (also know as Gibi Mensal 1) , in January of 1940, they decided to try something different. They decided to adapt the US comic book format.

They would start to try out the format publishing one edition per month. That's why every edition in the new format would have "Mensal" (monthly) on the title, even though the series name is only Gibi (yes the label title is incorrect, besides too incomplete for my taste). Images bellow of Gibi n°116 (also know as Gibi Mensal n°2) and the slight older Gibi n°2 depict the difference.

The gibi series would lead other Brazilian publishers to try other series in this format like the Guri n°1:

or the Lobinh vol 2, n°1

However it was when the gibi series started to try the new format with characters of a different publisher that most success came. Perhaps people of this forum heard about them. First with him:

and specially with him:

The success that these two, especially Torch, would bring was fundamental to convince the publisher O Globo that it was time to start a regular Gibi Mensal series (note the 'A' letter to the right of '1' to distinguish it from the Gibi 100/Mensal 1)

and possibly to release its sister publication, the "Globo Juvenil Mensal":

 

So what the twelve first Gibi Mensal were the biggest step to  popularize the modern comic book format in Brazil and it was possible the first case grand of success of it outside the US.

[southern cross]

[gadzukes]

Even though Superman started in Brazilian Gazetinha comics in Dec 1938 (Newspaper format), I believe this Action 1 cover didn't come out until 1939.

So awesome.

Edited June 18, 2022 by gadzukes

[gadzukes]

I thought this was kind of interesting.

In FOOM magazine #18 (1977) they had an article called "Mighty Marvel Mags in Europe" by Neil Tennant.

Trying to educate the masses about the awesome foreign comic market way back in 1977 (I wish I would have listened and bought some back then).

[Jcunha]

Norwegian X-men Variants from 1985.

[gadzukes]

Question:  What is the oldest Foreign version of Action Comics 1?  Or at least the oldest foreign Superman?

Action Comics 1 has a cover date of June 1938.  It's actual "On Sale Date" is April 18 1938. 

So what foreign edition came out first?

The Brazilian Gazetinha reprinted the whole Action 1 in episodic newspaper weeklys starting in Dec 1938.  I suspect there's something older than that though.

 

[Kromak]

On 6/20/2022 at 2:35 PM, gadzukes said:

Question:  What is the oldest Foreign version of Action Comics 1?  Or at least the oldest foreign Superman?

Action Comics 1 has a cover date of June 1938.  It's actual "On Sale Date" is April 18 1938. 

So what foreign edition came out first?

The Brazilian Gazetinha reprinted the whole Action 1 in episodic newspaper weeklys starting in Dec 1938.  I suspect there's something older than that though.

 

On Mexico, they published the AC1 Superman story on several editions of "Paquito", one page at each edition,  on the back cover. I read a comment that it wasn't licensed. Anyway, on Heritage there is one of the editions:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/miscellaneous//p/40210-14011.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

 

On 6/19/2022 at 1:16 AM, Jcunha said:

Norwegian X-men Variants from 1985.

 

I really enjoy this one.

[aardvark88]

On 6/18/2022 at 3:06 PM, gadzukes said:

In FOOM magazine #18 (1977).

Trying to educate the masses about the awesome foreign comic market way back in 1977 (I wish I would have listened and bought some back then).

DC Comics had an earlier pin-up and foreign comics text full pager in 1968 #Jimmy Olsen" giant-size naming Brazil, Japan, Vietnam soldiers, Italy, Sweden, Philippines, UK, Australia, Canada, Norway.

 

[gadzukes]

On 2/18/2022 at 3:01 PM, gadzukes said:

These are coming my way soon.  I'm stoked.

btw.... nice legs Loki

I sent these two in for grading.  I got a 5.0 on the left one & a 4.5 on the right one. 

BUT the one on the left contains JIM 83 & 84.  It looks like they didn't mention JIM 83 on the label (It's coming to me in the mail so I don't know for sure yet)

Edited July 2, 2022 by gadzukes

[gadzukes]

On 2/20/2022 at 4:13 PM, gadzukes said:

I sent this in for grading too and got an 8.0.

[Kromak]

On 7/2/2022 at 2:25 PM, gadzukes said:

  It looks like they didn't mention JIM 83 on the label (It's coming to me in the mail so I don't know for sure yet)

I would complain. It is an very important part of it from a US historical pov . From a financial pov, you are likely going to lose money, perhaps a lot, in case of reselling.

 

On 7/2/2022 at 2:27 PM, gadzukes said:

I sent this in for grading too and got an 8.0.

Congrats. It seems a very high grade.

[gadzukes]

On 7/4/2022 at 7:31 PM, Kromak said:

I would complain. It is an very important part of it from a US historical pov . From a financial pov, you are likely going to lose money, perhaps a lot, in case of reselling.

I agree.... and what's more, I stuck a note in with the comic that I wanted JIM 83 included in the label notes.  When it comes I'll let you know.  I will be very disappointed if that notation is not on the label, because like you say... it's IMPORTANT!.  It's HISTORY! It's JIM 83 for God's sake!

I do understand since it has the cover to JIM 84 that it's easy to focus on that, but really it's only because they chose the wrong cover to the 1st issue.  It has both 83 & 84 for the 1st issue so they should both be mentioned on the label.

Edited July 5, 2022 by gadzukes

[gadzukes]

Just picked this one up.  It has Marvel Spotlight 5 & Marvel Premiere 15 inside (Double Key)

[gadzukes]

I just had this one graded.  I thought the grade might even go higher than this, but even so.... it's the highest graded on the census.

[Kromak]

On 7/4/2022 at 12:37 AM, gadzukes said:

I agree.... and what's more, I stuck a note in with the comic that I wanted JIM 83 included in the label notes.  When it comes I'll let you know.  I will be very disappointed if that notation is not on the label, because like you say... it's IMPORTANT!.  It's HISTORY! It's JIM 83 for God's sake!

I do understand since it has the cover to JIM 84 that it's easy to focus on that, but really it's only because they chose the wrong cover to the 1st issue.  It has both 83 & 84 for the 1st issue so they should both be mentioned on the label.

I though it was the new Cgc policy to label it based on its most "important" feature (cover or story). If I am correct, the label is plain wrong. Will you complain?

On 7/7/2022 at 8:12 PM, gadzukes said:

Just picked this one up.  It has Marvel Spotlight 5 & Marvel Premiere 15 inside (Double Key)

It thought the Premier 15 was this one:

But if n°6 has the story, then this one probably only has the cover.

 

Note: Herois da TV is the most sought-after superhero comic book in Brazil.

[gadzukes]

On 7/8/2022 at 11:02 AM, Kromak said:

 

It thought the Premier 15 was this one:

But if n°6 has the story, then this one probably only has the cover.

 

Yes, that's the cover, but the MP15 story is in HDTV 6.  Maybe they reprinted it again in HDTV 21? But HDTV 6 is the 1st appearance of Iron Fist in brazil

[gadzukes]

On 7/8/2022 at 11:02 AM, Kromak said:

Note: Herois da TV is the most sought-after superhero comic book in Brazil.

I would think the Gibi Mensals would be.