VintageComics Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Why not? It's paying homage to the original costume without having to actually use it in the show. I liked it. I don't. Again, I understand the purpose of why they would give him some body armor in his costume. You guys are making it sound like it's lost on me. It isn't. I was one of the 1st guys that argued on here years ago that changes of costume were OK for the movies because comic strip costumes weren't practical. I just find it contradictory to use one costume in the starting credits and another in the show. To me that's no different than a comic cover with a scene that never happens in the story. I've always hated that sort of thing because it's misleading and not authentic. I think they could have done something with compression fabrics like Under Armour that would have given the correct look. But you need someone with insane definition. Look at Ray Lewis or other foot ball players wearing under-armor and you would get what I mean. The silhouette is fully "Super hero" Superheroes don't need to wear unitards or onesies. I think Daredevil would look fine if he had a 2 piece outfit with gloves and boots. IF they wanted to introduce "Tech" into Daredevil's costume, they could have implied that the new fabric incorporates Zoom Bang polymer technology (which uses "shear thickening") into the weave of a fabric and also resists cutting like Kevlar presuming that such a material been developed (they may actually develop that in the future if the US military hasn't already.) We use Zoom Bang garments in SCA (society of creative anachronism) fights. Strikes with rattan that would otherwise break bone The polymer reacts to g-force/impact/stress by Shear thickening, which means it's soft until you strike it or force applied. Then it becomes rigid spreading the force of the impact over a greater surface area preventing breaks and reducing bruising. Actual viscoelastic polymers are contained in thick pads that contain the fluid, and would look even bulkier than the body armor. But presuming future technology by utilizing basis of fact (viscoelastic polymers exist and we use them in sports padding) and a judicious amount of suspension of disbelief, you could use it as deus ex mechina. At least, that's how I'd envision the costume working. -Terry That's sort of how I envision costumes working in the comic books. (thumbs u Wasn't Reed Richards responsible for creating costumes that adapted to various people's superpowers as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby77 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Isn't that how Lucius shows Wayne that the material that makes the batsuit works in Batman Begins? IIRC, it wasn't soft until struck, but rather pliable until an electric current was applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't know why I always feel the need to say so when this topic inevitably comes up but me too. It's still my favourite super hero movie of all time, and I cannot honestly see why people hate it. But I'm not stupid, and because everybody in the world hates it I know it must be me who is wrong. My favourite cast, the best soundtrack, and the darkest, grittiest of all superhero movies I have seen. It's not my favorite or even in my top 5, but it might be near the bottom of my top 10, so I enjoyed it a lot as well. And you're right, it does have the absolute best soundtrack of ANY superhero film. I particularly liked how they visually depicted his radar sense. The biggest sin in the movie was that dumb symbol carved into Bullseye's forehead. But I enjoyed Farrell's depiction of the character. As an actor, he's only shown me one trick--he can play intense, pissed-off characters really well--and that's exactly what they needed for Bullseye. Loved that scene in the pub where he used a paper clip as a weapon, as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Casting someone as Caucasian as Jennifer Garner for Elektra was a mistake. She had the right physicality, but none of the Eastern European look. The playground scene was cheesy, but I kind of enjoyed it anyway. Favreau was great in it. The guy who played Wesley was good, although not as good as the one in the Netflix series. Affleck was fine. Matt Murdock has always been a brooding, morose character, and that's mostly how Affleck played him. It wasn't enjoyable, however--just as it rarely was in the comic--so lightening him up a bit without doing it too much as Charlie Cox was able to do was an improvement though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveySwick Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The Crow soundtrack Daredevil carved a bullseye into Bullseye's forehead in the Bendis run. I agree that the casting of Jennifer Garner was terrible. Wesley was perfect. Even though every time I see the actor that played Wesley, I think of his role in Seven. "Get that thing off of me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 1 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Wow! this is some of the best TV EVER!!!! I am only on episode 4 and I'm glad I am taking my time. It just gets better and better! What a great translation of the Miller version of the Comic! Man I wish they made movies like this... I agree 100% Wally! Awesomeness!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The Crow soundtrack Definitely another good one. "Big Empty" is one of my favorite songs, ever, and it debuted in that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Dude, that was House of Pain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Dude, that was House of Pain! Oh. I was going by the lyrics when they say "I'm Irish, but I'm not a leprechaun." Does sound like them now that you mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The Crow soundtrack Daredevil carved a bullseye into Bullseye's forehead in the Bendis run. I agree that the casting of Jennifer Garner was terrible. Wesley was perfect. Even though every time I see the actor that played Wesley, I think of his role in Seven. "Get that thing off of me!" That was Marvel making the book more inline with the movie, not vice verse. They did the same thing on the Morrison X-Men run with their costumes after the first X-Men movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveySwick Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You're right. (thumbs u Daredevil (Movie) - February 14, 2003 Daredevil Vol. 2 #49 - July 16, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bropper Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hopefully, Marvel uses this Daredevil as a production model to rinse and repeat for all the other Netflix series. Maybe move Agents of Shield to Netflix. Daredevil was well done. Just like first Iron Man movie. Glad I lived to see childhood comics come to life on both the big and small screens with such fidelity to the source material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Wow! this is some of the best TV EVER!!!! I am only on episode 4 and I'm glad I am taking my time. It just gets better and better! What a great translation of the Miller version of the Comic! Man I wish they made movies like this... +1 Oh yeah! So good... Just wait, man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 +1 Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't know why I always feel the need to say so when this topic inevitably comes up but me too. It's still my favourite super hero movie of all time, and I cannot honestly see why people hate it. But I'm not stupid, and because everybody in the world hates it I know it must be me who is wrong. My favourite cast, the best soundtrack, and the darkest, grittiest of all superhero movies I have seen. It's not my favorite or even in my top 5, but it might be near the bottom of my top 10, so I enjoyed it a lot as well. And you're right, it does have the absolute best soundtrack of ANY superhero film. I particularly liked how they visually depicted his radar sense. The biggest sin in the movie was that dumb symbol carved into Bullseye's forehead. But I enjoyed Farrell's depiction of the character. As an actor, he's only shown me one trick--he can play intense, pissed-off characters really well--and that's exactly what they needed for Bullseye. Loved that scene in the pub where he used a paper clip as a weapon, as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Casting someone as Caucasian as Jennifer Garner for Elektra was a mistake. She had the right physicality, but none of the Eastern European look. The playground scene was cheesy, but I kind of enjoyed it anyway. Favreau was great in it. The guy who played Wesley was good, although not as good as the one in the Netflix series. Affleck was fine. Matt Murdock has always been a brooding, morose character, and that's mostly how Affleck played him. It wasn't enjoyable, however--just as it rarely was in the comic--so lightening him up a bit without doing it too much as Charlie Cox was able to do was an improvement though. It's not completely awful, but it's not great either. I think it sets the mark of "average comic book movies" for me. The best being DK, worst being... Hmmmm... Elektra..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't know why I always feel the need to say so when this topic inevitably comes up but me too. It's still my favourite super hero movie of all time, and I cannot honestly see why people hate it. But I'm not stupid, and because everybody in the world hates it I know it must be me who is wrong. My favourite cast, the best soundtrack, and the darkest, grittiest of all superhero movies I have seen. It's not my favorite or even in my top 5, but it might be near the bottom of my top 10, so I enjoyed it a lot as well. And you're right, it does have the absolute best soundtrack of ANY superhero film. I particularly liked how they visually depicted his radar sense. The biggest sin in the movie was that dumb symbol carved into Bullseye's forehead. But I enjoyed Farrell's depiction of the character. As an actor, he's only shown me one trick--he can play intense, pissed-off characters really well--and that's exactly what they needed for Bullseye. Loved that scene in the pub where he used a paper clip as a weapon, as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Casting someone as Caucasian as Jennifer Garner for Elektra was a mistake. She had the right physicality, but none of the Eastern European look. The playground scene was cheesy, but I kind of enjoyed it anyway. Favreau was great in it. The guy who played Wesley was good, although not as good as the one in the Netflix series. Affleck was fine. Matt Murdock has always been a brooding, morose character, and that's mostly how Affleck played him. It wasn't enjoyable, however--just as it rarely was in the comic--so lightening him up a bit without doing it too much as Charlie Cox was able to do was an improvement though. It's not completely awful, but it's not great either. I think it sets the mark of "average comic book movies" for me. Agreed. Plenty of critics and forum members acted as if it was among the smelliest turds Hollywood ever out. It wasn't anywhere near that, and I suspect that if that movie wasn't released during the year Affleck was all over the tabloids for dating J Lo and it wasn't the year he worked on and released "Gigli," the critical response wouldn't have been quite so bad. Some films get dumped on more as time goes on, some less...this one has been dumped on less over time. My memory tells me that the original Rotten Tomatoes score on it was in the high 30s the year it was released, but it has risen to the mid-40s today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Interesting poll on CBR for best character cast on the show. I voted Fisk, but thought DD was great as well. ANd Stick. And Foggy. , okay, I liked them all... DD Poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hopefully, Marvel uses this Daredevil as a production model to rinse and repeat for all the other Netflix series. Marvel did MAKE this, so they dont need to learn from themselves, its so good BECAUSE they know exactly what they are doing, not by some fluke or accident. All of the Netflix shows will be different, but have the same grounded, adult style, that daredevil has, that is the world they have chosen to create for this endeavor, and because Netflix is the best vehicle to deliver it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveySwick Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Movies must be family friendly to enlarge the possible audience and increase profits; not just ticket sales, but also merchandise, toys, etc. Netflix is the perfect venue aside from HBO/Showtime to depict the "edgier" side of Marvel with street level superheroes/vigilantes and the necessary violence and mature themes that come with them. These series are going to be excellent. Bring on Punisher, Ghost Rider and Moonknight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't know why I always feel the need to say so when this topic inevitably comes up but me too. It's still my favourite super hero movie of all time, and I cannot honestly see why people hate it. But I'm not stupid, and because everybody in the world hates it I know it must be me who is wrong. My favourite cast, the best soundtrack, and the darkest, grittiest of all superhero movies I have seen. It's not my favorite or even in my top 5, but it might be near the bottom of my top 10, so I enjoyed it a lot as well. And you're right, it does have the absolute best soundtrack of ANY superhero film. I particularly liked how they visually depicted his radar sense. The biggest sin in the movie was that dumb symbol carved into Bullseye's forehead. But I enjoyed Farrell's depiction of the character. As an actor, he's only shown me one trick--he can play intense, pissed-off characters really well--and that's exactly what they needed for Bullseye. Loved that scene in the pub where he used a paper clip as a weapon, as well as the weird Irish rap music playing in the background of it. Casting someone as Caucasian as Jennifer Garner for Elektra was a mistake. She had the right physicality, but none of the Eastern European look. The playground scene was cheesy, but I kind of enjoyed it anyway. Favreau was great in it. The guy who played Wesley was good, although not as good as the one in the Netflix series. Affleck was fine. Matt Murdock has always been a brooding, morose character, and that's mostly how Affleck played him. It wasn't enjoyable, however--just as it rarely was in the comic--so lightening him up a bit without doing it too much as Charlie Cox was able to do was an improvement though. It's not completely awful, but it's not great either. I think it sets the mark of "average comic book movies" for me. The best being DK, worst being... Hmmmm... Elektra..? I think Catwoman gives Elektra a run for it's money greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 "These series are going to be excellent. Bring on Punisher, Ghost Rider and Moonknight. " Yes, please! "I think Catwoman gives Elektra a run for it's money" I never saw Catwoman, and I hope I never do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
