Dr. Love Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 23 hours ago, Yorick said: He's hit or miss for me. When he's "on" his work is genius. Otherwise, you find the book in the dollar boxes. Colletta's misses had more to do with his work load then a sporadic talent. When he had the luxury of time, he could really do it up. His pre-code work for Atlas in 1954 was fantastic, his natural talent boosted by his ability to incorporate stylistic elements from other artists, especially Toth. Romance wise, in 1954 he produced 152 pages of art, and 25 covers. Being a quick artist who could be counted on to bring the work in on time, Atlas upped his load to 321 pages and 43 covers in 1955, 255 pages and 48 covers in 1956, 325 pages and 35 covers in 1957. Less formulaic than Kirby, more imaginative than Baker, more lush than Toth - over time, I've come to appreciate Colletta as the best combination penciller/inker for romance of them all. Close behind, in terms of raw interesting storytelling, I would have to say the Orbit crew - Leav, Anderson, Buscema - would be my favorite reads. Yorick, jimjum12 and FoggyNelson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Love Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Little known and appreciated for his romance work at Fawcett is Marc Swayze. It's a long ways from Mary Marvel to this: adamstrange, 1950's war comics and FoggyNelson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 The King did have some outstanding work, it's true. The Wife and I get a chuckle from this splash. Of course, I can't relate to this poor guy's circumstance. pmpknface, 1950's war comics and FoggyNelson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimjum12 Posted August 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Love said: Colletta's misses had more to do with his work load then a sporadic talent. When he had the luxury of time, he could really do it up. His pre-code work for Atlas in 1954 was fantastic, his natural talent boosted by his ability to incorporate stylistic elements from other artists, especially Toth. Romance wise, in 1954 he produced 152 pages of art, and 25 covers. Being a quick artist who could be counted on to bring the work in on time, Atlas upped his load to 321 pages and 43 covers in 1955, 255 pages and 48 covers in 1956, 325 pages and 35 covers in 1957. Less formulaic than Kirby, more imaginative than Baker, more lush than Toth - over time, I've come to appreciate Colletta as the best combination penciller/inker for romance of them all. Close behind, in terms of raw interesting storytelling, I would have to say the Orbit crew - Leav, Anderson, Buscema - would be my favorite reads. Earlier Colletta….. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Sqeggs, adamstrange, pmpknface and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 23 hours ago, Dr. Love said: Great books Yorick! Love to see the Atlas - even more so, if some of the contents can be pictured. Look forward to seeing those when you get back, Sagii. With the copyright protection in place by Marvel and DC, it's a visual embargo for the most part. So it's a rare treat when a site like Atlas Tales has full scans of a story up, like Just My Type. Interestingly, Ger Apeldoorn weighs in with this commentary about whether this story is Toth or Sekowsky. Toth was incredibly influential on the whole artist community; many tried to copy his technique as best they were able. "Notes: This is the first time I have seen this story, which was always attributed to Toth, but recently has been recanted by him. Apparently it is by Sekowsky imitating Toth. But that seems almost impossible. Although some parts look to weak to be pure Toth, some panels, such as the tier with the two girls on the couch and the silent panel of a hand picking up a book can only be pure Toth in my eyes... unless they are swipes. These panels are too inventive to be imitation. It is not that Sekowsky couldn't be as inventive as that, but it is hard to believe he could be inventive in Toth's way. - Ger" Maybe our resident Toth expert, Adamstrange, could weigh in as well? I think I'll muddy the water a bit... I picked up a Standard Popular Romance page from Mr Harrington not too long ago which he had identified as Sekowsky. The written info on the back says different (maybe?). I love every panel of this except that first one (which may very well be because of a deadline looming). It has that same Toth feel, but it just isn't. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Darn that silly auto-rotation of cgc's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The challenge is the both Colleta and Sekowsky were talented and heavily influenced by Toth at that time so their usual distinctive characteristics are muted. I'm inclined toward Colleta on your piece. Do you know the issue number it came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 As indicated on the back of the piece, Popular Romance 25. GCD indexer notes say Steve Saaf in 2006 originally credited Art Saaf for pencils, based on this piece that Yorick owns, I would think. But two years later Saaf and Jim Vadeboncouer conferred and changed the accreditation to Sekowsky pencils. Apparently Colletta inks was never in question. FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I was thinking that the "take this to Mike" was perhaps a note by a past owner to have Mike Sekowsky inspect the work at a convention (or some other similar event). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Love said: But two years later Saaf and Jim Vadeboncouer conferred and changed the accreditation to Sekowsky pencils. Jim V. is almost always right. For comparison, here's a Colleta page that is very clearly Colleta. Dr. Love 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Love said: As indicated on the back of the piece, Popular Romance 25. I was looking everywhere on the front.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Jim V. is almost always right. For comparison, here's a Colleta page that is very clearly Colleta. this page is so quintessentially COLLETTA FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bronze age fan* Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 10:05 PM, Dr. Love said: calling Frank, bronze age fan every atlas c'mon down bro Wish I had every atlas. Lol. But I do have some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I recently got this from Bob...… one of the keepers. It has a story in it that's attributed to Bill La Cava, but it sure looks like Matt Baker to me.Quite a few panels just scream Baker. Either way, I'm just not seeing La Cava on this one. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Yorick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Nah, that's Baker for sure. Art of Glamour lists it, but on this one no book is needed, eh? One of his best splashes for Atlas, too. Atlas Tales shows Bill LaCava as doing all war/suspense, and then this one romance story? I don't think so! Sqeggs and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr. Love said: Nah, that's Baker for sure. Art of Glamour lists it, but on this one no book is needed, eh? One of his best splashes for Atlas, too. Atlas Tales shows Bill LaCava as doing all war/suspense, and then this one romance story? I don't think so! That's what I thought too..... and La Cava's style is so different. Those Atlas Tales guys are usually on the money.... I'm betting this was a clerical error or something. Every now and then I find an uncredited Baker in this time frame of Atlas.... certainly a treat. I'm real happy with it, Bob called it a 6.5, but it seems every bit of that. The only thing better than a Pike sandwiched between two Collettas is a Baker sandwiched between two Collettas This one doesn't seem to have Colletta inks either. I also don't think he inked MOR 47. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 A couple of especially nice Colletta covers..... GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Sqeggs and comicjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 18 hours ago, adamstrange said: Jim V. is almost always right. For comparison, here's a Colleta page that is very clearly Colleta. Clearly a great example of Colletta's work! CGC says I have a problem "liking" your post (some weird Board technical issues lately...). No problem - I actually LOVE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 7 hours ago, jimjum12 said: The only thing better than a Pike sandwiched between two Collettas is a Baker sandwiched between two Collettas +1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...