Traded: CGC 4.0 AF15 and CGC 9.6 TMNT 1 1 1

[Real Elijah Snow]

I'd rather have the Turtles 1. To me a Turtles #1 in 9.6 is more special than a 4.0 Fantasy 15. If I had to guess I would say in 20 years the 2 books in those particular grades will still be very similar.

[DarthBane]

Last 3 9.8s sold for $22.5, $22.5, and $27.

 

I'd say that makes TMNT1 9.8 a $20k+ book all day long. Which puts a 9.6 in the $10-12k price range IMO.

 

I am aware of a private sale from about a month ago just under 11k for a 9.6

 

 

No wonder why this was 9.6 slab was BINd so quick for $5K just 5 days ago.

[Jaydogrules]

Last 3 9.8s sold for $22.5, $22.5, and $27.

 

I'd say that makes TMNT1 9.8 a $20k+ book all day long. Which puts a 9.6 in the $10-12k price range IMO.

 

I am aware of a private sale from about a month ago just under 11k for a 9.6

 

 

No wonder why this was 9.6 slab was BINd so quick for $5K just 5 days ago.

 

Big time scam.

 

-J.

[eastbayrudy]

Amazing Fantasy=HISTORIC! Turtles not even close! I could care less what grade it is. Its like trying to compare a Honus Wagner to a Mike Trout

[Ryan.]

Not sure your analogy helps or hurts your argument.

[jreezy]

I think the TMNT has more room to grow, less available and harder to find in that grade.

 

that being said, it also has a greater risk. people couldn't care about the turtles in 2-3 years while AF15 is a solid book for a long time

 

Turtles have been around since 1984 with 32 years under its belt. I don't think people will just "not care" about it in 2-3 years. Alot of the 30 year olds now who grew up watching turtles have yet to reach their financial peak. I still think there is a ton of potential with turtles.

 

 

[rabidwolf]

 

 

 

 

Turtles have been around since 1984 with 32 years under its belt. I don't think people will just "not care" about it in 2-3 years. Alot of the 30 year olds now who grew up watching turtles have yet to reach their financial peak. I still think there is a ton of potential with turtles.

 

 

 

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

Edited May 7, 2016 by rabidwolf

[Hulksdaddy1]

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

 

LInk?

[rabidwolf]

cant get link to work in phone. GO to comiclink and type in ninja turtles in the exchange search. When you scroll down you will see it below the $22.5k 9.8 sale.

[Jaydogrules]

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

 

LInk?

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTeenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%2B1%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1114386

 

That's a pretty blatant outlier from the last sale (granted , the last sale in that grade was over a year ago).

 

-J.

[Gotham Kid]

http://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7137-91186.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013

 

[rabidwolf]

double post

Edited May 7, 2016 by rabidwolf

[rabidwolf]

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

 

LInk?

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTeenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%2B1%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1114386

 

That's a pretty blatant outlier from the last sale (granted , the last sale in that grade was over a year ago).

 

-J.

 

ya but 9.8s were selling for 15k a year ago. Now 9.8s are consistently well over 20k. This book was due for a price jump in very high grade. High grade copies were relatively stable the last 5 or so years in terms of price while the mid and low grade copies doubled in value during that same time.

 

There just wont be enough of these books with a 3000 print run for all collectors who want one- a small portion of those copies probably dont even exist anymore- There are only 664 graded, whereas your typical silver age keys are in the thousands. Even the rare marvel keys like Hulk 1 has twice as many graded.

[Jaydogrules]

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

 

LInk?

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTeenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%2B1%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1114386

 

That's a pretty blatant outlier from the last sale (granted , the last sale in that grade was over a year ago).

 

-J.

 

ya but 9.8s were selling for 15k a year ago. Now 9.8s are consistently well over 20k. This book was due for a price jump in very high grade. High grade copies were relatively stable the last 5 or so years in terms of price while the mid and low grade copies doubled in value during that same time.

 

There just wont be enough of these books with a 3000 print run for all collectors who want one- a small portion of those copies probably dont even exist anymore- There are only 664 graded, whereas your typical silver age keys are in the thousands. Even the rare marvel keys like Hulk 1 has twice as many graded.

 

But there's a cheaper 9.6 copy on eBay...

 

-J.

[rabidwolf]

This is very accurate.

 

TMNT has also been re-intorduced to every new generation since its inception and the popularity keeps growing. BY the way saw a 9.6 number 1 sold for $15,000 on comiclink a month or so ago.

 

LInk?

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DTeenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%2B1%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1114386

 

That's a pretty blatant outlier from the last sale (granted , the last sale in that grade was over a year ago).

 

-J.

 

True

 

ya but 9.8s were selling for 15k a year ago. Now 9.8s are consistently well over 20k. This book was due for a price jump in very high grade. High grade copies were relatively stable the last 5 or so years in terms of price while the mid and low grade copies doubled in value during that same time.

 

There just wont be enough of these books with a 3000 print run for all collectors who want one- a small portion of those copies probably dont even exist anymore- There are only 664 graded, whereas your typical silver age keys are in the thousands. Even the rare marvel keys like Hulk 1 has twice as many graded.

 

But there's a cheaper 9.6 copy on eBay...

 

-J.

 

True 15k is high but I think this is a solid 12k book now

[GM8]

Throwing nostalgia aside, I'm going to say TMNT #1 9.6 from a sheer investment perspective.

 

As far as price: AF 15 4.0 CGC sells for what I can surmise around 13K. TMNT #1 9.6 CGC sells for around 15K recently and is rising.

 

As far as supply: There are as of now 156 AF 15 cgc 4.0's out there. There are only 38 TMNT #1 1st prints in 9.6 in circulation. The clear winner is TMNT.

 

TMNT in this case is a clear winner in my book, only based on the grades. Nostalgia aside.

[SupergirlDC1959]

5 days left for this TMNT #1 CGC 9.6 White Pages in this Heritage auction. Bidding is at 4600$ (5497$ with BP).

 

This will be a good gauge of this books current value in 2016.

 

Link:

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7137-91186.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Preview-BrowseThisAuction-120115

[oakman29]

How many TMNT#1's are graded total, and how many AF15's? Nuff said. AF 15's in 4.0 can be had anytime, not so much for a 9.6 Turtles #1.

[Jaydogrules]

The fact that a 4.0 AF 15 sells for so much more, despite how many more copies of it there are, is prima facie evidence that it is the much more desired book, and it isn't even close.

 

-J.

[Hulksdaddy1]

No doubt AF15 4.0 is the more expensive book right now, maybe 20-25% higher. And Spider-Man will always, in all probability, be a bigger character.

 

But, like IH1 and SH4, whose characters also are less popular that Spider-Man, but whose prices keep rising based mostly on lower numbers, TMNT1 9.6 can catch up, and possibly surpass, AF15 4.0. Time will tell.

 

Census:

 

AF15 - 2492

 

IH1 - 1286

 

TMNT1 - 664

 

SH4 - 355

 

 

 

TMNT1 9.6 - 41

 

AF15 4.0 - 224