The Official Doctor Strange Movie Thread 0

[comicjack]

The trailer looked good on the big screen

[ComicConnoisseur]

The trailer looked good on the big screen

It really did. Looks like a sleeper that will come out and surprise like GotG.

[revat]

I'm very excited about Mads Mikkelsen.

 

He is sooooo awesome in the Hannibal TV show as Hannibal. This was an epic show, and it gets my highest recommendation. If you want to be disgusted and hungry at the same time, this show will make you have some very odd and uncomfortable opinions on food....it is spectacular and weird.

 

Best thing on network tv in many, many years. Also very strange to be on network tv, though I shudder to think how deep they could/would have gone if they were on showtime or even basic cable.

[chezmtghut]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

[Vorpal]

The biggest issue here is that they got a white person to play an asian person, as if there are no qualified asian actors/actresses that they could have hired. I love Tilda Swinton, just not in "yellowface."

[TheLiamSturgess]

Like when Heimdall was cast, many people pointed out how that went against Norse mythology. I know he was much more of a supporting character than the Ancient One, but that did turn out pretty well

[revat]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

[chezmtghut]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

They still used an Asian actor to play Wong, so I don't buy that China would have been upset over the Ancient One's race. They banned Deadpool because of all the vulgar profanity. I wouldn't compare the two.

[revat]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

They still used an Asian actor to play Wong, so I don't buy that China would have been upset over the Ancient One's race. They banned Deadpool because of all the vulgar profanity. I wouldn't compare the two.

 

There's no need to reference Wong one way or another in discussions about Tibet. He's an ethnically Chinese (non-Tibetan) man living in New York City, at least from the Marvel stories.

 

But a Tibetan Monk living in a temple in the mountains of Tibet? Makes it pretty hard to ignore the Tibet issue. Generally, Tibetans (especially ancient ones) are very likely to be of a different race than other parts of China. So Marvel could either say all people in China are the same by using a 'Han' (the predominate race in China), but everyone in China would know the difference, or use someone 'Tibetan' and risk ticking off the Chinese government, assuming you could even find a Tibetan actor who spoke English well enough.

 

I'm not saying Deadpool and Dr Strange would receive bans for the same reason, just that China has a VERY recent history of banning a Marvel movie. I get that would not be for the same reason, just saying that I don't think the potential 'ban factor' can be denied completely as a factor in decision making. China actually controls how many foreign movies can be in Chinese theaters at one time, and controls how long they are allowed to be shown. There are very real negotiations and strategies that are occurring ALL the time between movie companies and the Chinese authorities with regards to scheduling, and they absolutely impact the bottom line of movie studios.

 

I don't know why exactly the Ancient One was cast as a white woman, and I'm guessing most people don't other than some very specific decision makers at Marvel. Could be for commercial reasons, could be racism, could be a Tilda Swinton won a bet with Kevin Feige, but I'm just saying its not so far fetched that it could be concerns about the 'Tibet' issue with China or Chinese investors (who play a HUGE role in dam near all American movies now).

 

Could be a combo of all of the above, but not all race issues are about insidious RACISM of the decision makers.

[chezmtghut]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

They still used an Asian actor to play Wong, so I don't buy that China would have been upset over the Ancient One's race. They banned Deadpool because of all the vulgar profanity. I wouldn't compare the two.

 

There's no need to reference Wong one way or another in discussions about Tibet. He's an ethnically Chinese (non-Tibetan) man living in New York City, at least from the Marvel stories.

 

But a Tibetan Monk living in a temple in the mountains of Tibet? Makes it pretty hard to ignore the Tibet issue. Generally, Tibetans (especially ancient ones) are very likely to be of a different race than other parts of China. So Marvel could either say all people in China are the same by using a 'Han' (the predominate race in China), but everyone in China would know the difference, or use someone 'Tibetan' and risk ticking off the Chinese government, assuming you could even find a Tibetan actor who spoke English well enough.

 

I'm not saying Deadpool and Dr Strange would receive bans for the same reason, just that China has a VERY recent history of banning a Marvel movie. I get that would not be for the same reason, just saying that I don't think the potential 'ban factor' can be denied completely as a factor in decision making. China actually controls how many foreign movies can be in Chinese theaters at one time, and controls how long they are allowed to be shown. There are very real negotiations and strategies that are occurring ALL the time between movie companies and the Chinese authorities with regards to scheduling, and they absolutely impact the bottom line of movie studios.

 

I don't know why exactly the Ancient One was cast as a white woman, and I'm guessing most people don't other than some very specific decision makers at Marvel. Could be for commercial reasons, could be racism, could be a Tilda Swinton won a bet with Kevin Feige, but I'm just saying its not so far fetched that it could be concerns about the 'Tibet' issue with China or Chinese investors (who play a HUGE role in dam near all American movies now).

 

Could be a combo of all of the above, but not all race issues are about insidious RACISM of the decision makers.

There will be no reference to Tibet in the movie, so that is really a moot point. They're filming in Nepal (there's no way China would allow filming in Tibet) & so they could have given the role to an Asian as a Nepalese Monk without causing any upset to China.

Edited May 10, 2016 by chezmtghut

[revat]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

They still used an Asian actor to play Wong, so I don't buy that China would have been upset over the Ancient One's race. They banned Deadpool because of all the vulgar profanity. I wouldn't compare the two.

 

There's no need to reference Wong one way or another in discussions about Tibet. He's an ethnically Chinese (non-Tibetan) man living in New York City, at least from the Marvel stories.

 

But a Tibetan Monk living in a temple in the mountains of Tibet? Makes it pretty hard to ignore the Tibet issue. Generally, Tibetans (especially ancient ones) are very likely to be of a different race than other parts of China. So Marvel could either say all people in China are the same by using a 'Han' (the predominate race in China), but everyone in China would know the difference, or use someone 'Tibetan' and risk ticking off the Chinese government, assuming you could even find a Tibetan actor who spoke English well enough.

 

I'm not saying Deadpool and Dr Strange would receive bans for the same reason, just that China has a VERY recent history of banning a Marvel movie. I get that would not be for the same reason, just saying that I don't think the potential 'ban factor' can be denied completely as a factor in decision making. China actually controls how many foreign movies can be in Chinese theaters at one time, and controls how long they are allowed to be shown. There are very real negotiations and strategies that are occurring ALL the time between movie companies and the Chinese authorities with regards to scheduling, and they absolutely impact the bottom line of movie studios.

 

I don't know why exactly the Ancient One was cast as a white woman, and I'm guessing most people don't other than some very specific decision makers at Marvel. Could be for commercial reasons, could be racism, could be a Tilda Swinton won a bet with Kevin Feige, but I'm just saying its not so far fetched that it could be concerns about the 'Tibet' issue with China or Chinese investors (who play a HUGE role in dam near all American movies now).

 

Could be a combo of all of the above, but not all race issues are about insidious RACISM of the decision makers.

There will be no reference to Tibet in the movie, so that is really a moot point. They're filming in Nepal (there's no way China would allow filming in Tibet) & so they could have given the role to an Asian as a Nepalese Monk without causing any upset to China.

 

I'd consider buying that, if they're calling it Nepal and not Tibet, but it also depends on how and when decisions were made. For example, if they initially thought it was going to be Tibet, then cast a white lady to avoid the Tibet issue, then eventually decided to change it to Nepal to avoid all Tibet issues entirely, but too late to go back and recast.

 

My ultimate point is, there's so many things that go into it, and we just don't know how/why/when decisions are made, and racism is a very serious thing to accuse ANYONE of without proof. I don't doubt that things (sometimes terrible) things are done in service of the bottom line, but institutional racism is different than trying to give your potential audience something which you believe will make the most money.

[NewEnglandGothic]

Nothing to do with the new movie coming out, but did anybody ever watch the animated Dr. Strange movie?

I saw it was for sale for $4 at Best Buy and was curious.

I haven't been a fan of a lot of animated Marvel efforts other than Big Hero 6 and Hulk Vs.

[chezmtghut]

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

You mean the writer that worked on the -script stating this clearly was actually all made up?

 

I think Tilda Swinton is a fantastic actress. I loved her performance in the Constantine movie as Gabriel, along with her evil role in Snowpiercer (what a transformation).

 

But this shows in this worldwide box office universe even Marvel Studios will continue making decisions to appease certain markets. They did it with Iron Man 3 with the Chinese 'Tony Stark heart operation' scene which really added no value to the story. But it sure paid off big for that movie, exceeding even what Avengers achieved at the Chinese box office.

 

It's not about Tilda Swinton or her performance.

 

If they decided to make gender or race changes to Odin, Thor, Loki, Hawkeye, Captain America, Falcon, etc... it would upset some people regardless of how great the actors playing those roles are.

 

I'm just saying that they should have just been honest & said they wanted to change things up rather than using Chinese politics as an excuse for doing so.

 

I know there's a few articles that refute it, but what if Chinese politics really was at least a significant part of the rationale for the change? China by far the biggest international market for US movies, why even a little bit risk ticking them off? THEY BANNED DEADPOOL, a recent Marvel movie with content deemed objectionable in China. And yes making references to Tibet and Tibetan monks is still a touchy subject for the Chinese govt.

 

We act like these huge corporations somehow have a duty to make things 'equal' in Hollywood. What? Why?

They still used an Asian actor to play Wong, so I don't buy that China would have been upset over the Ancient One's race. They banned Deadpool because of all the vulgar profanity. I wouldn't compare the two.

 

There's no need to reference Wong one way or another in discussions about Tibet. He's an ethnically Chinese (non-Tibetan) man living in New York City, at least from the Marvel stories.

 

But a Tibetan Monk living in a temple in the mountains of Tibet? Makes it pretty hard to ignore the Tibet issue. Generally, Tibetans (especially ancient ones) are very likely to be of a different race than other parts of China. So Marvel could either say all people in China are the same by using a 'Han' (the predominate race in China), but everyone in China would know the difference, or use someone 'Tibetan' and risk ticking off the Chinese government, assuming you could even find a Tibetan actor who spoke English well enough.

 

I'm not saying Deadpool and Dr Strange would receive bans for the same reason, just that China has a VERY recent history of banning a Marvel movie. I get that would not be for the same reason, just saying that I don't think the potential 'ban factor' can be denied completely as a factor in decision making. China actually controls how many foreign movies can be in Chinese theaters at one time, and controls how long they are allowed to be shown. There are very real negotiations and strategies that are occurring ALL the time between movie companies and the Chinese authorities with regards to scheduling, and they absolutely impact the bottom line of movie studios.

 

I don't know why exactly the Ancient One was cast as a white woman, and I'm guessing most people don't other than some very specific decision makers at Marvel. Could be for commercial reasons, could be racism, could be a Tilda Swinton won a bet with Kevin Feige, but I'm just saying its not so far fetched that it could be concerns about the 'Tibet' issue with China or Chinese investors (who play a HUGE role in dam near all American movies now).

 

Could be a combo of all of the above, but not all race issues are about insidious RACISM of the decision makers.

There will be no reference to Tibet in the movie, so that is really a moot point. They're filming in Nepal (there's no way China would allow filming in Tibet) & so they could have given the role to an Asian as a Nepalese Monk without causing any upset to China.

 

I'd consider buying that, if they're calling it Nepal and not Tibet, but it also depends on how and when decisions were made. For example, if they initially thought it was going to be Tibet, then cast a white lady to avoid the Tibet issue, then eventually decided to change it to Nepal to avoid all Tibet issues entirely, but too late to go back and recast.

 

My ultimate point is, there's so many things that go into it, and we just don't know how/why/when decisions are made, and racism is a very serious thing to accuse ANYONE of without proof. I don't doubt that things (sometimes terrible) things are done in service of the bottom line, but institutional racism is different than trying to give your potential audience something which you believe will make the most money.

 

I don't believe racism ever factored into the situation.

 

There is no doubt they are using Nepal as the name & not just the location. Using Tibet as the name of the location & Tibetan as the Ancient One's race in the film is what would have caused problems, not the actor being Asian. I'm sure Marvel was well aware of that before any casting took place.

 

I'm just saying there was no reason they couldn't use an Asian actor based on the argument that was presented & it felt like an excuse. Again, it's the words Tibet/Tibetan that will cause problems with China, not the actors race. Therefore there was no need to use an actor that is not Asian, which is the real argument here.

[piper]

Nothing to do with the new movie coming out, but did anybody ever watch the animated Dr. Strange movie?

I saw it was for sale for $4 at Best Buy and was curious.

I haven't been a fan of a lot of animated Marvel efforts other than Big Hero 6 and Hulk Vs.

 

I thought it was pretty good!

[snowman28]

Nothing to do with the new movie coming out, but did anybody ever watch the animated Dr. Strange movie?

I saw it was for sale for $4 at Best Buy and was curious.

I haven't been a fan of a lot of animated Marvel efforts other than Big Hero 6 and Hulk Vs.

 

Well worth the $4, I recommend it. All other marvel animated movies are imo garbage, but I thought Doc Strange was actually good.

[bronze_rules]

Nothing to do with the new movie coming out, but did anybody ever watch the animated Dr. Strange movie?

I saw it was for sale for $4 at Best Buy and was curious.

I haven't been a fan of a lot of animated Marvel efforts other than Big Hero 6 and Hulk Vs.

 

Well worth the $4, I recommend it. All other marvel animated movies are imo garbage, but I thought Doc Strange was actually good.

 

+1 I liked it a lot.

[seanfingh]

I'm just saying there was no reason they couldn't use an Asian actor based on the argument that was presented & it felt like an excuse. Again, it's the words Tibet/Tibetan that will cause problems with China, not the actors race. Therefore there was no need to use an actor that is not Asian, which is the real argument here.

 

All of this is assumption that it is a Tibet issue. I wouldn't be surprised if they had focus groups that told them that Millennials don't like seeing really old people in their movies. The bottom line is that no one really knows what the reasoning was, and you can either get over it or not.

[NewEnglandGothic]

Thanks guys!

[chezmtghut]

I'm just saying there was no reason they couldn't use an Asian actor based on the argument that was presented & it felt like an excuse. Again, it's the words Tibet/Tibetan that will cause problems with China, not the actors race. Therefore there was no need to use an actor that is not Asian, which is the real argument here.

 

All of this is assumption that it is a Tibet issue. I wouldn't be surprised if they had focus groups that told them that Millennials don't like seeing really old people in their movies. The bottom line is that no one really knows what the reasoning was, and you can either get over it or not.

 

It is a Tibet issue according to screenwriter C. Robert Cargill.

 

Here's the original post where you have one of the screenwriters of Doctor Strange commenting on it as being the reason for the change, which is where this whole debate originates from.

 

Doctor Strange’s Erasure Of Tibet Is A Political Statement

 

Recently, however, discussion of Marvel’s relationship with the Chinese film market came to light once again after C. Robert Cargill, one of the screenwriters who worked on Doctor Strange, spoke very bluntly about changes made to Stephen Strange’s mentor in mysticism, the Ancient One. In the comics, the Ancient One is hundreds of years old and originates from the area that would later become known as Tibet, and Doctor Strange travels to Tibet to find him. Naturally, the Ancient One’s original background was a bit of a sticking point for Marvel because, as Cargill explained:

 

“The Ancient One was a racist stereotype who comes from a region of the world that is in a very weird political place. He originates from Tibet, so if you acknowledge that Tibet is a place and that he’s Tibetan, you risk alienating one billion people who think that that’s bulls**t and risk the Chinese government going, ‘Hey, you know one of the biggest film-watching countries in the world? We’re not going to show your movie because you decided to get political’…"

 

“The only way this character could be more awkward is if he had been made back in the thirties… and instead of going to the Orient [Doctor Strange] went to Palestine and learned from a Palestinian master… That’s the only way this could be any uglier than this one now.”

 

He makes it sound like the change to the character's origin was to appease the Chinese box office. Ouch!

 

This is total BS.

 

If anything the real politics would be about acknowledging Tibet as the location itself. Do they think it will be any less insulting to the Chinese by having a British woman playing the role of a Tibetan Monk? The Chinese don't want to acknowledge Tibet as an autonomous region. As far as they're concerned, it's always been part of China. This whole stereotype excuse is actually a moot point.

 

It's like saying Chinese people won't watch Asian martial arts movies because it's too stereotypical.

 

All they had to do was change the locations name from Tibet to Nepal. Changing the characters race was not necessary. It looks like Strange is traveling to Nepal in the trailer anyways, cause they do show a Kathmandu temple at one point. So where does the issue of race come in?

 

This is just a poor excuse to justify their decision, rather than the actual reason behind it. Besides, I think the Ancient One being Asian would have actually increased ticket sales in China.

 

[seanfingh]

I get that the screenwriter said that. My point is that his statement may or may not be true. It could be an excuse to keep the real reason from coming out, or some kind of spin doctoring to court the Chinese market. There could be an even stupider reason than we could surmise. It could have been done for all the PC reasons that folks were gnashing their teeth about earlier.

 

It's Hollywood. I don't really trust anything that makes it out as an "explanation" anymore.