Larryw7 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 6:39 PM, aardvark88 said: Ana de Armas as Indy Jones III. Ron Jeremy as Sallah. Bosco685 and aardvark88 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I am an Indiana Jones fan, I love the first movie. I have no interest in whatever this movie is as to me it is only an Indiana Jones film by name. The trailer is a major turn off. D84 and NewWorldOrder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 7:05 PM, drotto said: Yeah, you think the marketing budget is only $100 million? Man I have no clue what the marketing budget is. I know in my neck of the woods there hasn't been alot of marketing (at last not that I have seen). Budget could be $100 million or $200 million (or more), I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 7:27 PM, media_junkie said: Man I have no clue what the marketing budget is. I know in my neck of the woods there hasn't been alot of marketing (at last not that I have seen). Budget could be $100 million or $200 million (or more), I just don't know. Aren't those Superbowl ads between 25-50 million? I think the marketing budget will be big, despite the pretty horrible reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post october Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 6:47 PM, Artboy99 said: I am an Indiana Jones fan, I love the first movie. I have no interest in whatever this movie is as to me it is only an Indiana Jones film by name. The trailer is a major turn off. I only want to see it if my expectations are subverted and legacy characters are sufficiently humbled and deconstructed. NewWorldOrder, Larryw7, SkOw and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 7:41 PM, october said: I only want to see it if my expectations are subverted and legacy characters are sufficiently humbled and deconstructed. SkOw, Bosco685 and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larryw7 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 8:41 PM, october said: I only want to see it if my expectations are subverted and legacy characters are sufficiently humbled and deconstructed. Sallah hands Indy his whip and he angrily throws it over his shoulders. media_junkie, Bosco685, bentbryan and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 2:34 AM, Larryw7 said: Sallah hands Indy his whip and he angrily throws it over his shoulders. The Disney Modern Movie Framework TM Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) On 5/20/2023 at 5:41 PM, october said: I only want to see it if my expectations are subverted and legacy characters are sufficiently humbled and deconstructed. That is a safe bet unfortunately. Edited May 21, 2023 by NewWorldOrder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cman429 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I’m more interested to see what new Disney Princess we get introduced to through the Passing Of The Torch Whip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Princess is gendered. Those days are over. Princess invokes colonialism & empire. Those days are over. NuDisney's next Indiana Jones should be a non-white-skinned, non-binary, birthing-person who lectures from the classroom lectern the former Indiana Jones on the criminal cultural appropriations of being a Raider. That beatdown should be the opening action sequence. We all know who'll be getting the whip this time. Bosco685, thegiftedone45, october and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 "Person" is highly specist. "Entity" is the preferred nomenclature du jure. PopKulture, TupennyConan, skypinkblu and 2 others 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 The way the people at the Cannes premier felt. TupennyConan, Bosco685, Dark Knight and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) I just read the entire synopsis ... ehhhh Just like JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson made everyone appreciate the prequels it looks like this movie will make everyone appreciate Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in giving Indiana Jones the ending he never knew he wanted or needed in being married and finding out he had a son. However, I can definitely see where the reshot ending was done in the synopsis. It is VERY clear what they did. Spoiler for the end of the movie. Spoiler Last chance... I don't want to hear from any board members they do not have any self control - you have been warned. Spoiler The movie ends with Indiana Jones being pulled to the present and is laying in bed bandaged up. He is in bed disappointed because he feels he has nothing left in the "current" timeline. As far as we know up to this point Mutt has died and he is divorced from Marion and is dependent on alcohol to get through the day. Marion suddenly comes into the apartment with groceries and after some banter asks, "Where does it hurt?" in a callback to the first movie. They rekindle their relationship and Indiana gets as happy of an ending as he can. This is most likely the new ending and would support the original idea that Indy is left in the past and his niece takes over in the present. Supposedly in the original version shot before Iger took over, Jones laments that his future self has suffered great loss and remains in the past to seek out new adventures and things. Iger reportedly felt that this was an unreleasable movie with this ending and asked for reshoots which is where we get the above from. Full spoiler: Edited May 22, 2023 by Buzzetta SkOw, Bosco685, Bill C and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 At least this whole thing got us some sweet Indiana Jones figures from Hasbro... Which I am patiently awaiting to ship... so at least I have that going for me. Which is kind of nice. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 8:58 PM, Buzzetta said: I just read the entire synopsis ... ehhhh Just like JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson made everyone appreciate the prequels it looks like this movie will make everyone appreciate Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in giving Indiana Jones the ending he never knew he wanted or needed in being married and finding out he had a son. However, I can definitely see where the reshot ending was done in the synopsis. It is VERY clear what they did. Spoiler for the end of the movie. Hide contents Last chance... I don't want to hear from any board members they do not have any self control - you have been warned. Hide contents The movie ends with Indiana Jones being pulled to the present and is laying in bed bandaged up. He is in bed disappointed because he feels he has nothing left in the "current" timeline. As far as we know up to this point Mutt has died and he is divorced from Marion and is dependent on alcohol to get through the day. Marion suddenly comes into the apartment with groceries and after some banter asks, "Where does it hurt?" in a callback to the first movie. They rekindle their relationship and Indiana gets as happy of an ending as he can. This is most likely the new ending and would support the original idea that Indy is left in the past and his niece takes over in the present. Supposedly in the original version shot before Iger took over, Jones laments that his future self has suffered great loss and remains in the past to seek out new adventures and things. Iger reportedly felt that this was an unreleasable movie with this ending and asked for reshoots which is where we get the above from. Full spoiler: Wow. It should be called "Indiana Jones and the Steaming Pile of 💩." Larryw7 and media_junkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 8:58 PM, Buzzetta said: I just read the entire synopsis ... ehhhh Just like JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson made everyone appreciate the prequels it looks like this movie will make everyone appreciate Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in giving Indiana Jones the ending he never knew he wanted or needed in being married and finding out he had a son. However, I can definitely see where the reshot ending was done in the synopsis. It is VERY clear what they did. Spoiler for the end of the movie. Hide contents Last chance... I don't want to hear from any board members they do not have any self control - you have been warned. Reveal hidden contents The movie ends with Indiana Jones being pulled to the present and is laying in bed bandaged up. He is in bed disappointed because he feels he has nothing left in the "current" timeline. As far as we know up to this point Mutt has died and he is divorced from Marion and is dependent on alcohol to get through the day. Marion suddenly comes into the apartment with groceries and after some banter asks, "Where does it hurt?" in a callback to the first movie. They rekindle their relationship and Indiana gets as happy of an ending as he can. This is most likely the new ending and would support the original idea that Indy is left in the past and his niece takes over in the present. Supposedly in the original version shot before Iger took over, Jones laments that his future self has suffered great loss and remains in the past to seek out new adventures and things. Iger reportedly felt that this was an unreleasable movie with this ending and asked for reshoots which is where we get the above from. Full spoiler: Frankly, both endings sound unreleasable. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/22/2023 at 3:40 PM, mattn792 said: Frankly, both endings sound unreleasable. I mean, the new ending makes more sense. Big spoiler like last time. Spoiler Well to be fair. I think we can all agree that figuring out what to do with the son was problematic and it kind of makes sense to have him killed in Vietnam as it solves the Shia issue. But does he really go down that path due to what happens to Mutt? It's possible. Indy becomes an alcoholic. Given the loss of a son and dissolution of his marriage I could see that. Indiana Jones has always been the everyman dealing in the impossible situation. A hint at the reliance of alcohol is discouraging but buyable. I had read online that Spielberg was bold enough with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull to try to wrap up the series by giving Indiana Jones the family he didn't know he yearned for or was running away from which... is quite "Spielbergian" in nature. He resolves the dad issue at the end of Last Crusade but to see Indiana hopefully become the father that he never really had and the husband that he never had provides growth to the character and a closure to the story. The article proceeded to say that despite its faults ala Mutt and the Tarzan monkeys along with a few other things, that Crystal Skull is not a bad way to end the series. It stated that Mangold is a fantastic director and storyteller but he is dealing with a property that should have been allowed to rest. For Mangold to undo it and put Indiana Jones back in time with PWB as the heir to the whip would have been a backward turn for the character and disastrous to future properties. At least with this ending, Jones still finds happiness, we see Marion back in the picture and it ends with a sense of hope as audiences are now saying it is an older hand that grabs the hat from the clothesline indicating that Indiana Jones has still 'got it'. I think the reshot ending is a fair ending for the movie that did not really need to be made to being with. At least we know that Indy is still out there by 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) I am not saying this movie is good or bad, and it is just one person's review. But how broken is Rotten Tomatoes when it put this quote as fresh? Edited May 23, 2023 by drotto Bosco685 and media_junkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 12:37 AM, drotto said: I am not saying this movie is good or bad, and it is just one person's review. But how broken is Rotten Tomatoes when it put this quote as fresh? Not a surprise to me, Rotten Tomatoes is gaming the system for Disney. Has happened before will happen again. Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
